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February 08, 2011, 09:43:48 PM +0000 - Anderstorp (GP) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65)
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 1 1:39.883
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1 40:52.307
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24 1:41.058
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Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 2 +1.182
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2 +16.147
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24 1:41.236
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Dunlop  
Ross Neilson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +1.623
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3 +23.958
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24 1:41.790
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Dunlop  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +1.370
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4 +29.521
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24 1:41.594
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Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +2.719
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5 +1:16.904
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24 1:43.205
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Goodyear  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +2.459
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6 +1:50.894
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24 1:43.127
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Dunlop  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 11 +3.661
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7 +1:27.873
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24 1:42.906
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Goodyear  
karlisss
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 10 +3.082
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8 (+8) +1:59.244
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24 1:43.357
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Goodyear  
il_lupo_mannaro
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 12 +4.901
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9 (+2) +1:33.426
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24 1:42.623
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Dunlop  
norbert
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 8 +2.813
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10 +1:42.304
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24 1:43.748
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Dunlop  
miner2049er
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 9 +2.864
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11 +1L
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23 1:42.994
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Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 13 +5.666
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12 +2L
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22 1:43.222
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Dunlop  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 5 +2.329
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13 (+2) +9L
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15 1:42.976
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Dunlop  
5 UKGPL.65
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 14 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

This is a very tricky circuit with bumps that take you off the racing line, and unusual cambers making the racing line unusual in places.

Nobody seemed to struggle with the unusual pit location and we are back to normality next time out with a start-finish pit lane, but we stick with the airfield theme at the small French F2 circuit at Albi.


Server replay time: 0h01m00s

Blito starts to spin exiting T1 but catches it.
Just as he does so Karliss hits him and spins him around
Despite being warned about taking care at T1 in Kyalami, Karliss takes risks off the line again and drives straight to the middle of the track.
Even when Blito's skid starts to develop in front of him karliss is still accelerating and does not leave himself enough space to react.

Karliss took a SHIFTR but did not take a Sng

  • karlisss (Karlisss-65)penalty — Simple Rear End Shunt — 1 place lost (plus 2 for penalty points)
  • karlisss (Karlisss-65)penalty — SHIFT R with no Stop n Go — 30.000 seconds added — also, 2 places lost for penalty points
  • karlisss (Karlisss-65)penalty — Lap 1 Incident — 1 place lost (plus 2 for penalty points)


Server replay time: 0h02m20s

Blito passes Nigel on the run to Norra but begins to move left before he is clear of Nigel.
The two touch and Blito spins.
If you can not see a car in your mirrors then you have not cleared it and can not assume it is not there.


Server replay time: 0h03m15s

Fabio passes Norbert into Hansen and Norbert spins off.
Fabio signals his move early but has no overlap at turn in.
Norbert should know he is there and seems to try to leave room but does not leave enough.
Norbert suffers warp and is thrown from the track.
I think had warp not been involved they would both have made it through the corner.
Warp Incident

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h08m15s

Ross spins exiting Hansen and Ronnie lifts but cannot avoid him.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h13m30s

Fabio is following Billy closely through Opel and hits him, spinning him off.

The server shows contact between the cars but Fabio's replay suggests there is warp involved.
Warp can be "invited" by following a car closely for too long but this was not the case here and Fabio closed up in the corner, perhaps misjudging braking distances or tow.

Though it is possible that warp is involved, it is not possible to say that it was the cause of Billy's spin, or if the cars would not have touched had warp not occurred.

Because of that I have not called it a warp incident but a Marginal Rear End Shunt which carries a warning to be careful when following other cars closely.


Server replay time: 0h14m40s

Blito passes RogUK on the straight but RogUK rear ends him into Norra.
Blito had partially lost control and was slower than normal through Norra.


Server replay time: 0h42m30s

Martin runs out of fuel and resets.
He is unable to pit before the end of the race.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1965
1:39.883
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Artiglietti
Qualifying
Cooper T77 (Climax)February 08, 2011, 09:43:48 PM +0000
S20N
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1965
1:41.058
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Artiglietti
Race
Cooper T77 (Climax)February 08, 2011, 09:43:48 PM +0000
S20N
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« on: February 07, 2011, 09:41:38 PM +0000 »

UKGPL Season 20 Novices Trophy (1965 Mod) Race 8 February 8th

Round 8 and we're presented with a smorgasboard of challenges at The Scandinavian Raceway in Anderstorp, Sweden.

The second airfield based circuit of the season was built on marshlands in 1968 and became an extremely popular venue in the 1970s, just as Swede Ronnie Peterson was at the height of his career. Don't worry when you think you can't find the Pit entrance, the Pits are located halfway around the lap. Bloody Swedes!

Anderstorp held six Formula One events in the 1970s but when both Peterson and Gunnar Nilsson died during the 1978 Formula One season, public support for the event dried up and the Swedish Grand Prix came to an end, until now.

The circuit is also famous for being the site of the first and only win (as well as the first and only race) of the infamous Brabham 'fan car' in 1978.

You can download the track here:
http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=4340

Please see the Novices registration thread for an explanation of the chassis allocations shown below:
http://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=8416.0

FULL TIME
DRIVER 
  CHASSIS 
Vosblod
Cooper
NHance
BT11
Miner2049er
Cooper
Il_Lupo
Ferrari
Billy NoBrakes
BT11
HappyAl
Ferrari
Gilles27
BT7
Burtoner
3
Nigel Smith
Honda
Ronnie Peterson
Lotus
Blito
Ferrari
Mark65
1
Artiglietti
Cooper
BadBlood
Honda
RogUK
Cooper
Norbert
Ferrari
Maddog
Cooper

RESERVE
DRIVER 
  CHASSIS 
Karliss
Honda
Adamg67
BT11
Maestro
Cooper

Reserve drivers should not join the server until there are only 30 minutes of qualifying left so as to give the FULL TIME drivers chance to join, and drivers are not to go out on track until there are 30 minutes of qualifying left as this helps all drivers join the server successfully.

Please restrict chat to pit messages if necessary, and this includes the end of the race, until all running drivers have completed the necessary laps.

The Novice races are run under Int Long rules and all incidents will be moderated.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL5
IP address = ping myjamesonline.net
Race date = 08-02-2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Anderstorp (atorp)
Variant = 65F1
Damage Model = Int
Qualifying time = 35 minutes
Race length = 24 laps
Password: see above

65 Patch: The 2.02 Release of the 65mod can and should be used.
http://bit.ly/d8dECl

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page
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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2011, 01:52:15 PM +0000 »

The circuit is also famous for being the site of the first and only win (as well as the first and only race) of the infamous Brabham 'fan car' in 1978.

And the Tyrrell P34 6-wheeler took its only win here in 1976. If I could just get hold of one before tonight's race, that would be great Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2011, 02:33:04 PM +0000 »

Just to reinforce Mikes comments about the pits I’d recommend a drive through in practice. Not as tricky as Kyalami but approach is via a slip road in a non-obvious place, there is a 90degree turn (or hit the Armco) and the pit lane feeds out almost blind onto a the turn before the airstrip straight.
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2011, 02:43:25 PM +0000 »

AND there is a reasonable risk of getting 'lost' on that straight, ending up trapped in the landing strip that lies beside it...Also, the racing line kind of cuts across it, so in my view 'off the racing line'  is all on the right there, but it is not a given thats the same for everybody...
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2011, 10:20:34 PM +0000 »

ok, which comedian painted the target on my car? seriously guys, getting rear-ended three times in one race aint funny... incident report going in to the mods tomorrow.....
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2011, 10:34:02 PM +0000 »

Hi Grats to podium, not my day again pc playing up took me an age to log in, then on last lap pc froze, sorry to Blito for rear ending you, hope it did not spoil your race (did pit stop) see you all in 2 weeks.
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2011, 12:08:37 AM +0000 »

Whoa - good one for me to miss - 1:41 sheesh. I would have been way off the pace - would have been lonely...
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2011, 12:11:21 AM +0000 »

39 in the Cooper, AA?! I did a few laps yesterday in the Honda and was doing high 39s! See you in the AMs next season.  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2011, 09:59:03 AM +0000 »

Pleased to get third after a really tough race battling with Ronnie and Norm.

I knew I wouldn't be as close to Attilio as last time out as my preparations did not go as well as I'd have liked. Come qualifying I struggled until the last few minutes at which point I got up into fourth. Off the line this became third when I nipped past Norm and then second when Ronnie made a mistake on lap 2. Ronnie gobbled me up on the straight a few laps later and then Norm and I had a battle to see who could make less mistakes as we traded third and fourth. In the end I got the nod but only just.

This wasn't my best performance in terms of pace but I was pleased to get a podium, it was more about battling for all I could get today than anything else.

Good track choice Mike, the bumps, banking and unorthodox racing lines here made for a real challenge, plus keeping the tyre temps under control was also a factor, for me at least.

Well done to Attilio for a stunning performance, I think I can hear H quaking in his boots over there in Sofia Wink Also well done to Norm and Ronnie and thanks for the battle guys. Finally a shout out to Blito who secured a good slot on the grid in his Fezza.

See you all at Albi.
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2011, 10:33:27 AM +0000 »

Well done to Attilio for a stunning performance, I think I can hear H quaking in his boots over there in Sofia Wink

Sofia is not the only city in here you know, so that must be another H.  Wink
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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2011, 10:34:42 AM +0000 »

Well done to Attilio for a stunning performance, I think I can hear H quaking in his boots over there in Sofia Wink

Sofia is not the only city in here you know, so that must be another H.  Wink

Sorry I meant to say Plovdiv.

And if you have some evil doppelganger in Sofia, tell him to come and join UKGPL Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2011, 11:32:35 AM +0000 »

In practise leading up to the event I was only doing mid 42s but in Qually was not quite on it, then I made the mistake of changing my setup at the end of qually and added a little more oversteer.

I made 2 places on the run to T2 then spun at T2 with my new found oversteer, hit the barrier and the car was now pulling left which helped through Hansen but meant I couldn't turn right so I reset and took my first SnG.

I emerged in last place and proceeded to chase the pack down, which is difficult when you going more slowly than them, but I managed to make it back to 6th place at which point my engine let go. The first time I've ever blown a Cooper engine, so I reset again and pitted again.

I started the chase again but with full tanks and a lack of concentration it was hard going and I managed to get close to Norbert but I couldn't close up and couldn't see how I would get past anyway.

Great track but I find it much easier in the 69 Matra than the 65 Cooper for some reason. Oh yes, downforce LOL.

Anyway, looking forward to Albi as I like it there.
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2011, 11:51:02 AM +0000 »

Any idea what a reasonable time for Albi is? I seem to be struggling for grip and losing a lot of time from making a poor entry for the final straight and then losing time through the corner to the S/F. Maybe I need to soften it up a touch?
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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2011, 12:00:11 PM +0000 »

Any idea what a reasonable time for Albi is? I seem to be struggling for grip and losing a lot of time from making a poor entry for the final straight and then losing time through the corner to the S/F. Maybe I need to soften it up a touch?

Mostly slow corners, so a softer rear/stiffer front helps to put the power down earlier. Aim for late apexes by going slightly wider on entry and cutting across to the inside diagonally. Use the whole track width everywhere.
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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2011, 12:07:13 PM +0000 »

Thanks H.
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