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  • S20N Anderstorp: February 08, 2011
February 08, 2011, 09:43:48 PM +0000 - Anderstorp (GP) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Artiglietti
 
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 1 1:39.883
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1 40:52.307
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24 1:41.058
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Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 2 +1.182
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2 +16.147
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24 1:41.236
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Dunlop  
Ross Neilson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +1.623
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3 +23.958
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24 1:41.790
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Dunlop  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +1.370
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4 +29.521
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24 1:41.594
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Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +2.719
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5 +1:16.904
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24 1:43.205
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Goodyear  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +2.459
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6 +1:50.894
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24 1:43.127
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Dunlop  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 11 +3.661
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7 +1:27.873
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24 1:42.906
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Goodyear  
karlisss
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 10 +3.082
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8 (+8) +1:59.244
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24 1:43.357
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Goodyear  
il_lupo_mannaro
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 12 +4.901
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9 (+2) +1:33.426
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24 1:42.623
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Dunlop  
norbert
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 8 +2.813
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10 +1:42.304
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24 1:43.748
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Dunlop  
miner2049er
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 9 +2.864
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11 +1L
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23 1:42.994
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Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 13 +5.666
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12 +2L
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22 1:43.222
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Dunlop  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 5 +2.329
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13 (+2) +9L
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15 1:42.976
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Dunlop  
5 UKGPL.65
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 14 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

This is a very tricky circuit with bumps that take you off the racing line, and unusual cambers making the racing line unusual in places.

Nobody seemed to struggle with the unusual pit location and we are back to normality next time out with a start-finish pit lane, but we stick with the airfield theme at the small French F2 circuit at Albi.


Server replay time: 0h01m00s

Blito starts to spin exiting T1 but catches it.
Just as he does so Karliss hits him and spins him around
Despite being warned about taking care at T1 in Kyalami, Karliss takes risks off the line again and drives straight to the middle of the track.
Even when Blito's skid starts to develop in front of him karliss is still accelerating and does not leave himself enough space to react.

Karliss took a SHIFTR but did not take a Sng

  • karlisss (Karlisss-65)penalty — Lap 1 Incident — 1 place lost (plus 2 for penalty points)
  • karlisss (Karlisss-65)penalty — SHIFT R with no Stop n Go — 30.000 seconds added — also, 2 places lost for penalty points
  • karlisss (Karlisss-65)penalty — Simple Rear End Shunt — 1 place lost (plus 2 for penalty points)


Server replay time: 0h02m20s

Blito passes Nigel on the run to Norra but begins to move left before he is clear of Nigel.
The two touch and Blito spins.
If you can not see a car in your mirrors then you have not cleared it and can not assume it is not there.


Server replay time: 0h03m15s

Fabio passes Norbert into Hansen and Norbert spins off.
Fabio signals his move early but has no overlap at turn in.
Norbert should know he is there and seems to try to leave room but does not leave enough.
Norbert suffers warp and is thrown from the track.
I think had warp not been involved they would both have made it through the corner.
Warp Incident

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h08m15s

Ross spins exiting Hansen and Ronnie lifts but cannot avoid him.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h13m30s

Fabio is following Billy closely through Opel and hits him, spinning him off.

The server shows contact between the cars but Fabio's replay suggests there is warp involved.
Warp can be "invited" by following a car closely for too long but this was not the case here and Fabio closed up in the corner, perhaps misjudging braking distances or tow.

Though it is possible that warp is involved, it is not possible to say that it was the cause of Billy's spin, or if the cars would not have touched had warp not occurred.

Because of that I have not called it a warp incident but a Marginal Rear End Shunt which carries a warning to be careful when following other cars closely.


Server replay time: 0h14m40s

Blito passes RogUK on the straight but RogUK rear ends him into Norra.
Blito had partially lost control and was slower than normal through Norra.


Server replay time: 0h42m30s

Martin runs out of fuel and resets.
He is unable to pit before the end of the race.

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« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2011, 06:21:36 PM +0000 »

Would be interesting to know what kind of temperatures did you guys have.

I'm a prib user Attilio and this was the first race where tyre temps were in the red!!! Can't remember the actual temp with certainty but well over 230 °F.

To try and combat this I suggest that next Tuesday, at 9pm, we have an official Albi test session so we can get some meaningful practise at lapping together and passing each other cleanly. If we do i think we will all benefit from having better races, with fewer errors and some closer racing!
Thoughts please guys....
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Great idea Blito. On the rare occasions the practice servers are up I'm amazed sometimes how few people avail themselves of the opportunity of some fun racing without the stress of worrying about points/championships. I count myself a regular and try and try and join as often as other commitments allow. For me its the only way to hone those racing skills plus have some cracking fun at the same time. See you next Tuesday or sooner if a server is up.
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« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2011, 07:29:53 PM +0000 »

Two points. Agreed Ronnie I should battle it out more but I've had some pretty shabby results this season & a top 4 place was what I need right now to give me confidence. That penalty place at Kyalami was my first in 21 consecutive Nov races & its a record I'm proud of.

Secondly Blito is absolutely right I spend my time chasing good pb's & the best set up which always makes me feel confident of a high place going into qually. BUT I'll admit I can't race very well, get jittery under pressure, & find it difficult to run in close company & pass others. The on line action usually starts about 9.00pm which is not always convenient but I'll consider making more effort. It doesn't have to be the next track we are at its all experience. It's also a chance to drive other cars 'cos I'm a bit bored with the BT11 , good as it is. For smiles per mile you need a Honda or BT7. I only do 65's though & it will probably stay like that.
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« Reply #32 on: February 09, 2011, 07:35:25 PM +0000 »

I'd certainly be up for some practice online with you all next week if Mike can make the server available. Blito has a good point, I certainly feel that my speed is OK but my racecraft needs more work. And as Ronnie says it could be good fun too Smiley
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« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2011, 07:41:23 PM +0000 »

   taz . . . . . . .  ah, that's better - I needed that!


What month is this?  If it's January, I've been having this run of terrible luck, not the least of which, was running out of fuel with a lap to go at The Glen, and watching Billy pass me as I pitted, on the last corner, of the last lap!!

But hang on - not to worry, this is February 1965, and all is well.  Even better, I'd found a nice, well balanced setup, and an early 2nd on the grid, so hoping for a fight towards the front.  Except when 2nd then turned into 6th by the end of practice - thus is life in the fast lane.  Perhaps I could yet hang onto the front runners tails, and pounce on a mistake? angel

My plan worked well for all of 2 or 3 laps.  But ye car wasn't enjoying the ride, and I was soon left to wave a furious foursome on their way.  Had some glimpses of the action following me, in the following laps, and it all looked quite interesting.  Excitementwise for me however, there was none to be had.  The gaps just grew larger, and I can verify that, "It's lonely at the top."  Or in 5th place in my case . . . with the main interest being the sporadic changing of the guard to my rear, every few laps.  (Note : must stop using so much anti-contact spray at racetime.)

The countdown to the finish eventually commenced, and with a lap and a bit to go, the unthinkable also commenced . . . "Oh no, not again!!"  Hindsight would suggest it's a track, where a lot of time is spent near redline, and it's thirsty work, or so my car insisted on telling me, rather late in the proceedings.
Grumble!  Wretched hindsight!  So now I had to decide if I could make the finish line, still waiting a lap away from my obstinate machinery?  Undecided Undecided Undecided

At Watkins, in a '67, I'd decided to reset, and lost out to Billy's opportunism. So this time, I went for glory - figured I could still stay ahead of the next car, while running on fumes.  And it was working out beautifully . . . right up to the end of the long back straight, with 2 corners to go, at which point, the engine died! Grumble!  I consequently stopped in sight of the last curve, watched a driver called Billy scream past, reset, and blasted over the blasted line!  At which point, there was steam emanating from my helmet.  If someone had come up with a push mod, I could've almost pushed the car across the line instead!

The slight problem at this late point in the proceedings, was, how to pay penance for my refueling on the track?  The pits were a half a lap away, and my race had now finished?  Would I be disqualified for reversing a half lap?  Turning around would very likely DQ me.  And would the other finishers still finishing be disturbed by this?  Mike - some ponderance and adjudication required here!

I actually did an extra lap, and a stop & go, in case it's of interest to anyone.  Putting annoyance aside, it looked like a superb driving display by the dominant front four, so my helmet's off to them.  And by the way, if I see a Spec. race official with syphoning equipment, anywhere near my car before the next race, there's going to be trouble!!! Angry Angry Angry

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« Reply #34 on: February 09, 2011, 09:15:50 PM +0000 »

This track is fantastic but I wasn't able to practice so much before the race, so I didn't know it very well when starting the qualify.

Even, I wasn't confortable enough with the setup and my tyres became hot soon during the race.

The beginning of the race it was really fun, then I had some problems to stay on track on some turns...

WD to the podium, to everybody raced and to the organization.

The only bad thing of this race was my missing GT Blue Team mate Paul... Grin

Au revoir in Albi

Enjoyed some good midfield battles, other than one rear end tap from Fabio’s Ferrari..

Billy, I well understand your disappointment so, after reading your post, I checked my replay and it confirmed my first impression of yesterday night: I didn't hit you but... you suddenly moved away as I would hit you!
I think it was a problem of network connection.
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« Reply #35 on: February 09, 2011, 09:46:20 PM +0000 »

I didn't hit you but... you suddenly moved away as I would hit you!
I think it was a problem of network connection.

I would advise you to upload a clip from your replay, because if the server shows contact I will base the moderation on that alone.

If your replay shows no contact, you may not be penalised.
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« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2011, 09:33:40 PM +0000 »

i had a great race!
most exiting in this season for me. so battles during all race long, someone push me or i push someone.
pity i did one major mistake (caused by pribluda on long airfield straight.... lol) and one stupid late braking spin in lefthader before circus.
otherwise great.
also my PB in qual. nice
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« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2011, 10:13:09 PM +0000 »

i had a great race!
most exiting in this season for me. so battles during all race long, someone push me or i push someone.
pity i did one major mistake (caused by pribluda on long airfield straight.... lol) and one stupid late braking spin in lefthader before circus.
otherwise great.
also my PB in qual. nice

Well done Karlisss! glad you enjoyed the race and scored a good result. Keep practicing and you will continue to improve I am sure.
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« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2011, 12:35:55 PM +0000 »

Thanks H, if thats your typical range as well, it means theres not much left to scrape in that department for me. Too bad... Roll Eyes

On the subject of Blitos idea, isnt there a way to actually host races with a normal pc, without having to ask the mods to fire up the server each time? Or am I unaware of issues with that?
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« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2011, 12:37:40 PM +0000 »

Yeah, you can host without much problem as long as your system and Internet are stable, and connection has decent upload bandwidth.
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« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2011, 01:07:02 PM +0000 »

Yes, I often host on my PC.

Select the Host button on Igor, then   "host locally".

select the circuit, mod etc and fire up.

The only downside is that when you quit the server will shut down, unless you are feeling generous and leave it running for others to use.
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« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2011, 01:42:40 PM +0000 »

I can host quite happily on my home PC. Only thing to watch out for is your core.ini settings to make sure joiners don't get a bandwidth mismatch. I think, and someone can correct me, if you set your net_mdm_server_send_size to say 100 and everyone else is higher (most use 384) there shouldn't be any problems.
As Clive says the downside is if you quit (or freeze out/disco even) then everyone else goes too.
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« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2011, 07:32:26 PM +0000 »

we used to self-host at BYGPL back in 2002(ish) with no issues on what was then just 512K broadband....
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« Reply #43 on: February 11, 2011, 09:51:49 PM +0000 »

Anyone downloaded Albi this week? The links seems dog slow, less than half a kilobyte per second!
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« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2011, 07:53:13 PM +0000 »

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