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February 15, 2011, 10:42:55 PM +0000 - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
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Ballast
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
McLaren M2B (Ford) F1 1966 1 1:29.867
117.228mph
1 50:11.179
115.454mph
33 1:30.230
116.756mph
Firestone  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 2 +0.622
116.422mph
2 +8.586
115.126mph
33 1:29.971
117.092mph
Firestone  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1966) F1 1966 5 +1.509
115.292mph
3 +37.042
114.051mph
33 1:31.589
115.024mph
Goodyear  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 9 +2.118
114.529mph
4 +49.523
113.586mph
33 1:30.824
115.993mph
Goodyear  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T81 (Maserati) F1 1966 3 +1.034
115.894mph
5 +50.429
113.552mph
33 1:31.323
115.359mph
Firestone  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 43 (BRM) F1 1966 7 +1.912
114.786mph
6 +1:11.594
112.773mph
33 1:31.823
114.731mph
Firestone  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 4 +1.038
115.889mph
7 +1:27.537
112.192mph
33 1:30.911
115.882mph
Goodyear  
BookieW
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 14 +6.359
109.481mph
8 +2L
106.401mph
31 1:36.393
109.291mph
Goodyear  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 10 +2.179
114.453mph
9 +7L
112.077mph
26 1:32.118
114.363mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 11 +4.084
112.132mph
10 +15L
110.148mph
18 1:33.491
112.684mph
Disco
Firestone  
Dave Randall
 
McLaren M2B (Ford) F1 1966 8 +1.924
114.771mph
11 +26L
110.953mph
7 1:32.398
114.017mph
Disco
Firestone  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 12 +4.091
112.124mph
12 +27L
110.368mph
6 1:33.314
112.898mph
Disco
Goodyear  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 13 +6.036
109.850mph
13 +38.585
103.402mph
6 1:36.440
109.238mph
Disco
Firestone  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Lotus 43 (BRM) F1 1966 6 +1.741
115.000mph
14 DNS ---
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Firestone  
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Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 15 15 ---
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Goodyear  

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Yet another win for Hristo with Tim and Evil following.


Server replay time: 0h27m32s

Göran is following Al into Copse, lost the car during braking and when tried to take avoiding action went into the barrier, bounced out and hit Al from behind.


Server replay time: 0h42m58s

Göran tries to overtake Syd after Syd had a poor exit out of Abbey. When the two drivers is going into Woodcote side by side contact is made.

Here we have the classic how much overlap question and if the leading driver should be leaving room or not.

Because Syd did not know for sure where Göran was, he could not see him, to be on the safe side maybe he should have left room, on the other hand Göran did not know where Syd was ether so ...

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« on: February 11, 2011, 02:30:05 AM +0000 »

The Championship standings are quit tight, well besides Hristo that is, when we for the 7Th round of the Historic Trophy go to the well known Silverstone Circut. I welcome you all to this event.

There will be chassis restrictions for this one based on the championship standings. Se below.

Please restrict chat to a minimum, (or maybe none).

Moderating will be by reported incidents only, however the moderator will review any incident on lap one. Please submit incident reports within a week after the race so that the moderators report may be out before the next race.

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Race date =       15-02-2011
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Track =             Silverstone Circuit  1967  
Variant =           66F1 3L engines
Damage Model =  PRO
Qualifying time = 120 minutes but do not join until 35 minutes left. Do not start driving until 30 min left.
Race length =     Pro Long (33 laps)

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Group I
Mclaren M2B Ford
T1G Eagle Weslake


Group II
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BRM P83
 

GroupIII
Ferrari 312
Brabham BT19
Cooper T81
Honda RA273


Drivers Restricted to cars from Group I
Hristo Itchov
Dave Randall


Drivers Restricted to cars form Group II
EvilClive
Al Heller


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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2011, 02:13:10 PM +0000 »

Can't believe that after such an appalling effort and result at Kyalami, I am still 2nd and restricted to something with the power of a hoover combined with the power band width of an 80's motocrosser!

Still, Hristo and Tim would no doubt still push into the 1:30's or below, so guess there's no excuses.  Perhaps being handicapped in this way is the secret to alienship, but that's probably wishfull thinking.

Still, looking forward it nonetheless..
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2011, 02:31:20 PM +0000 »

You can try some of my McLaren setups, Dave. (on our waza blog, link in my signature)
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2011, 02:51:58 PM +0000 »

You can try some of my McLaren setups, Dave. (on our waza blog, link in my signature)

Thanks H, I will do just that..
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2011, 11:32:42 AM +0000 »

To avoid any delay due to my GPLRACER race I will put up the server at 19.35 UK time setting the quali time to 120 minutes. It is just to make sure that quali can start in time, 21.00, even if I have not finished my GPLRACER race by then.

Please do not enter the server until there is 35 minutes left.

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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2011, 06:15:03 PM +0000 »

Please do not enter the server until there is 35 minutes left.
and don't go out on track until there is only 30 minutes left  Wink
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2011, 10:25:58 PM +0000 »

Got a good start and was enjoying the slipstream that was allowing me to stay with the pack for a while.  Unfortunately my FF went off part way through the race (no idea why - it is OK now  Angry ).  Anyway had trouble with the feel of the car after that and I made a slight over correction for a slide at Club and I gently rolled the car.  Out of the race Sad.

Banged wheels with Syd at Copse on about lap 10 and I ended up on the grass but no harm done.  Just pleased by connection is good enough to cope with close racing these days thumbup1  At the start of the season a slight nudge like that would have induced a warp related bomb that would have catapulted me into the crowd.
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2011, 11:56:34 PM +0000 »

This was my first race since the first of the year.  I have been travelling and unable to participate.  Since it was Silverstone, I decided to brave the rust and see how long I could last.  Had an enjoyable race although nowhere near pole time.  Thanks to all for the great racing and courtesy (as always).  I'll try to be more diligent!

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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2011, 12:13:25 AM +0000 »

My race was really crap. A big SORRY to all my so called driving affected. And it was a shame as it started quite good, well except the first lap of cause when I as usually lost some places. But then I was following Al and KH and after a some time I was in front of them in 4Th position.

Then the crap begun.

I think I need to work on my fitness, as it seems I have problem focusing for a whoole race.

Göran


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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2011, 12:15:54 AM +0000 »

quiet pleased although I couldn t get a good float. I let Al pass me when he attacked and Gøran followed him so tight that I had to let him go too. I went wide and Fulvio passed. I followed fulvio and made him sweat for his 4 th at least.He did his share of small mistakes but so did I and never got in a position to pass through those last laps. Gøran and Al had an incident so 5 th was granted to me.
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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2011, 12:42:13 PM +0000 »

My race was a short one, but fun while it lasted.

I'd a car which would happily do 1.34's all day.  Except that, once under way, those behind me started being awkward, and insisted on running in the 1.33's.  As luck would have it, I was already familiar with the track, so I started staring in my mirrors, while apparently Syd behind me, started staring at my tailpipes.  So naturally, when I ran wide at Club, he quickly moved in for the 'Coup de gras.'  Race over! Undecided
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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2011, 12:50:44 PM +0000 »

Grats to Hristo and Tim, I just could not get on terms with them in the race and they slowly pulled away. Maybe if I had squeaked a few tenths off in qualifying and tucked into their slipstream I might have interfered with their battle Grin.

I changed my mind about which car to use only 2mins before we started. I had been trying to tame the power of the Lotus 43, but although it was quick on the straights I just could not get it to go around corners  Undecided. So I knew that I had used the Eagle in a previous race and maybe that setup would at least enable me to get to the finish with 4 wheels still attached!!
I was surprised at how stable and smooth that Eagle setup proved to be and I was able to push really hard with total confidence, unlike the Lotus!!

By using a very low 1st gear I got a good start and tucked in behind Goran, who seemed to be having problems on cold tyres and I felt I could go faster if I could just find a way past....but he had the power on the straights to make life difficult!!  Fortunately for me he made a mess of the exit and run up to Abbey and I was able to get right up the inside and take 3rd spot...but could I hold it???
I pushed hard for the next lap and slowly edged away, but Hristo and tim had already pulled a big gap and I did not want to risk everything to catch them that early in the race.
After that it was a lonely race for me, punctuated only be Tim allowing me a brief glimpse of him in the distance after his spin, and Fulvio emerging from the battle behind to start closing the gap around mid-race, but I was able to up my pace slightly and stretch my safety zone to finish a comfortable 3rd.
Just goes to show that a setup that is comfortable and predictable is worth far more than outright speed. Of course a little alien DNA would help even more...... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2011, 02:57:01 PM +0000 »

Tim proved to be very tough to handle in the race and I suspect he was probably running on race fuel in Qualifying, or never managed to do a clean lap. I lost the lead at the start and almost dropped to 3rd due to making 1st gear a bit too long, which led to the revs dropping down too much.

Initially I was planning to take it easy after the start until the engine and tire temps go up, but with Tim pulling away up front I had no choice but to push to the limit. The slipstream helped a lot, otherwise I don't think I had the pace to challenge him early on. Eventually he lost it in T2 and handed me over the lead, but the gap back to him was just a couple of seconds and with my quarter of a spin on the exit of the right-hander after the hangar straight (I'm not one to remember corner names), the gap was down to 4 seconds.

It stabilized at 3 seconds for a while, but then Tim went up a gear and closed in within 1-2 seconds, and we had a long struggle driving on the limit, with neither one of us getting the upper-hand. Fortunately for me Tim made another mistake and dropped a couple more seconds back, but then I had an identical loss of control like the one I had earlier, at the same place, so Tim closed up a bit again.

The handling improved a lot as the fuel went down though and I managed to do a string of very fast laps, and without the benefit of slipstream the gap to Tim grew up steadily until the finish. He still got fastest lap though, so I wonder what would've happened had he not made those mistakes. It was a very tough race overall.

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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2011, 07:53:24 PM +0000 »

Tim proved to be very tough to handle in the race and I suspect he was probably running on race fuel in Qualifying

Maybe....  Grin
Although my actual fastest lap was also done without slipstream, I finally dumped all my fuel with 5 mins to go as I wanted to ensure a good starting position and no-one wouold oblige!

Had good pace in the race but my 2 spins ruined any chance of a win. I recon the finish could have been interesting had we remained together!
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