UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Mar 8

[Baab]

Hmmm...okay well my racing seems to have raised a few comments.  It sounds like this type of race is usually quite strategic, I have to admit this was all lost on me (no sh!t).  65s takes a back seat to 67s for me and I'd barely turned a 65s wheels at monza.  When I took the lead I managed to pull a small gap, which was then closed down and what I thought was an entertaining battle ensued.  I put a wheel on the grass into Lesmo when H passed (fantastically late on the brakes) and spun, collecting a few in the process.  Sorry if this put anyone out.  Having taken pole (albeit due a lucky draft from KH, wasn't even a tidy lap) I was considering starting from the pit lane to ensure I didn't mess anything up for anyone, but then though there'd be no chance of a draft.

It took many laps to even reach the leader, whoever it was at the time, and then make a proper pass, but by the time it happened, some of those running in the pack had dropped back - Clutch, Fulvio, Al, Nathan and Bob. I was eventually left to fight only against Tom's BRM, and it was one of the faster BRMs, especially compared to Bob's, whose strange driving habits were really irritating - slowing down on the exit of corners, driving extremely defensively costing us both time, and then running oddly slow down the straight, despite having a BRM.

Disappointed with H's comments. I have a lot of respect for your driving H, but you carry on like everyone owes you a favor.  It's a race and you have to deal with whatever happens, I'm not there to ensure you carry your speed through the corners, etc.  Not sure what to say about my car being slow, I didn't build it myself!  You seem to be insinuating something...whatever, I managed to get pole and FL so it can't have been too bad. Let's hear it...

[EvilClive]

Believe it or not, I am not really complaining about having to drive a Cooper or BT7, and I don't think Hristo or Tim are either. In fact, I get quite a buzz out of forcing every last ounce of performance out of the 2 screamers and mixing it with the more powerful cars in 65's.

We were given those cars because we finished in the top 3 places last season and were deemed fast enough as drivers to still be able to compete. We still managed to cling to the top of the points table this season (by fingertips in my case ) with some very hard racing and getting steady points finishes through the season.
Whether that proves us to be better drivers, or whether it shows that the tracks generally favoured the BT7 or Cooper, is open to endless debate.

I feel partially to blame for the "oh no not Monza again!!"  complaint because I blatantly used it for the GT races to draw in a full grid as I knew how popular it is with most drivers.

 

[Hristo Itchov]

Disappointed with H's comments. I have a lot of respect for your driving H, but you carry on like everyone owes you a favor.  It's a race and you have to deal with whatever happens, I'm not there to ensure you carry your speed through the corners, etc.  Not sure what to say about my car being slow, I didn't build it myself!  You seem to be insinuating something...whatever, I managed to get pole and FL so it can't have been too bad. Let's hear it...

Well, if you're disappointed by hearing the truth, then how disappointed must I be for you to deny it? You still did not answer why you slowed down on straights and corner exits, was it a strategy (I hope not) or you had problems? Given that I had no option but to stay flat out all the time if I was to keep up with the leader's slipstream, your actions at the time were obviously extremelly unnatural and frustrating, especially since you had such a fast car and you did not have to resort to playing any games against the rest of us.

And if you think I alone noticed those patterns in your driving, it's not true - the others who raced at the front has seen it as well. It's fine to me if you were just making mistakes or had gear shifting problems, but it happened quite often for me to easily believe that, so go ahead and convince me by explaining what exactly were you doing.

Oh and since you know you have bad warp with your wireless internet, you can't just put others in danger by going too close to them and expecting them to move away to avoid warp contact. It's like you use your warp in your own advantage, relying on others to take the responsibility for dealing with it more than yourself.

I've nothing against you, it's great to have a fast driver like yourself, but don't deny things that actually happened, because we can easily go back and review the replay to confirm them...

[Baab]

Well, if you're disappointed by hearing the truth, then how disappointed must I be for you to deny it? You still did not answer why you slowed down on straights and corner exits, was it a strategy (I hope not) or you had problems? Given that I had no option but to stay flat out all the time if I was to keep up with the leader's slipstream, your actions at the time were obviously extremely unnatural and frustrating, especially since you had such a fast car and you did not have to resort to playing any games against the rest of us.

So what are you, "The guardian of the truth"?  Now you are trying to tell me how I was driving??  Behave yourself!  The only game I was playing was GPL. 

And if you think I alone noticed those patterns in your driving, it's not true - the others who raced at the front has seen it as well. It's fine to me if you were just making mistakes or had gear shifting problems, but it happened quite often for me to easily believe that, so go ahead and convince me by explaining what exactly were you doing.

Not that I have to explain anything to you, I had a few dodgy gear changes because I have just switched to using buttons, other than that I really have no idea what you're on about.  May have had to lift a bit if it got out of shape, all the rest is in your head.  If you've got issue with my driving refer to moderators, I'm sure they'll deal with it.


Oh and since you know you have bad warp with your wireless internet, you can't just put others in danger by going too close to them and expecting them to move away to avoid warp contact. It's like you use your warp in your own advantage, relying on others to take the responsibility for dealing with it more than yourself.

Unbelievable...I am now using warp to my advantage?!!  I didn't even know I was warping until Al mentioned at the end.  Yes I had been warping in the previous race, but as I mentioned in chat I changed some settings and raced a friend, who reckoned it was much better, hence thought it was ok.  I will try to sort this, but don't tell me I use this to my advantage, you're just talking total rubbish.  Can't wait to hear what you are going to accuse me of next.

I've nothing against you, it's great to have a fast driver like yourself, but don't deny things that actually happened, because we can easily go back and review the replay to confirm them...

You don't seem to be able to ever let anything go Hristo, always seems you have to be right and have the last say.  You're telling me what is and isn't true, just your opinion.  Go through the replay if you wish, it's your time.  You were only behind me for about a lap, you make it sound like the entire race.
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[Hristo Itchov]

Behave myself? Listen, if you nearly ruin my race with your dodgy driving, I'm completely entitled to not only mention it in my report, but answer back to your ridiculous reply back above which neither explains why you acted strange on the track nor showed any glimpse of remorse for doing so.

You could've just said "I had a few dodgy gear changes" and that would've been it, but no - you just had to act smart and mighty, didn't you? And how can you say you had no clue of your warp issues? As much as others see you warping, you see all other cars warping as well. Not to mention that it's not your first race and it's not the first time you warp like that.

I had let it go as soon as I wrote my report, but you acted like I was accusing you of things you didn't do without even having the decency of giving your own side of the story first. Before you go any further and since you obviously have a loss of memory for certain things you did on the track, go and review the replay, then come tell me where exactly I said something which was not true in terms of what you were doing on the track and not why you did it. The "why" part, as I already clearly said in my race report, was just nothing more than some guesses on my part, which a single line or two from yourself would've cleared out.

[Baab]

You can mention whatever you want in your 'report' but you've got to expect some comeback if you criticize, which you duly received.  Again, I don't need to explain anything to you, but I stated a few reasons anyway.

I wasn't acting 'smart and mighty', it's you who's making the accusations, which are certainly not true.  Fabricating stories that I was using warp to my advantage!  Saying such utter rubbish is bound to cause a reaction. 

Again, if you read what I wrote I mentioned changing some settings which made me believe my warp issues were resolved.  When racing I had no indication of this as everyone else appeared fine (do you want to dispute this too?).  I will buy a LAN cable though and see if this solves the issue.

This is my last post on this.

See you at the next race!

[Hristo Itchov]

You didn't just state, you got personal and offensive. Therefore I replied. You should take your own advice and just state, just the same way I did, sticking to your own point of view of how the events unfolded and being honest... just like I did.

[Hristo Itchov]

Just noticed Hiki-Waza narrowly took away the Constructors title in the last race! 

[FullMetalGasket]

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