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  • S20N Albi: February 22, 2011
February 22, 2011, 09:42:39 PM +0000 - Albi (1959-80) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65)
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 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Artiglietti
 
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 1 1:15.387
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1 38:24.674
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30 1:15.834
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Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 4 +0.686
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2 +5.854
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30 1:16.249
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Dunlop  
Ross Neilson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +0.643
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3 +27.824
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30 1:16.243
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Dunlop  
miner2049er
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +1.346
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4 +41.228
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30 1:17.164
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Dunlop  
norbert
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 6 +1.207
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5 +48.575
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30 1:17.131
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Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 11 +1.892
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6 +1:01.945
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30 1:17.304
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Dunlop  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 15 +2.282
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7 +1:12.517
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30 1:17.425
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Dunlop  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 5 +0.968
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8 (+12) +1L
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29 1:16.471
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Dunlop  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 2 +0.585
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9 +6.322
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29 1:16.989
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Goodyear  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 12 +2.183
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10 (+2) +9.273
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29 1:17.367
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Dunlop  
karlisss
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 9 +1.488
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11 (+6) +24.128
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29 1:16.705
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Goodyear  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 13 +2.236
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12 (+3) +24.384
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29 1:17.452
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Goodyear  
happyal
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 8 +1.447
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13 +24.841
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29 1:17.527
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Dunlop  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 14 +2.267
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14 +1:04.249
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29 1:18.104
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Goodyear  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 10 +1.685
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15 +16L
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14 1:17.166
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Dunlop  
5 UKGPL.65
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 16 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Albi proved very popular among drivers and they have asked for a swift return there. A simple track to learn but a difficult one to master, where a few tenths can mean starting at the wrong end of the grid.

We saw some incidents involving the first graduates from the Jethro Walters School Of Motoring, but hopefully they will follow their mentor's example by learning from their mistakes and penalties and improving their online race craft as Jethro has.

The enjoyable race has left everybody eager for the final showdown at Adelaide. As long as there is not a political revolt in the meantime that is.


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Nigel moves to the left at the start and collects Paul.
Nigel can at no time see Paul in his mirrors, but knowing that a car has started on that side of the grid behind him, the car must be alongside so he should keep to his own side of the grid.


Server replay time: 0h00m50s

Fabio follows Norm and Ross to T1, but Norm lifts to follow Ross through rather than run around the outside of him.
Fabio appears to attempt a pass as he closes on Norm but he has no overlap and should have lifted to follow Norm.
Fabio clips Norm's right rear and spins him before being warped from the track.
Norm was slow on entry even though this was Lap 1 so I have mitigated that by removing one of the Penalty places from the very ambitious overtake rule because it was still Fabio's responsibility to avoid a collision having seen Norm and Ross battling for the corner.


Server replay time: 0h00m58s

Blito stays right to avoid the collision between Nigel and Paul.
Paul rejoins and can barely hear Blito alongside into T1.
As soon as Blito appears in his view Paul takes avoiding action but Blito seems to feel a contact and hits the stricken Norm.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h02m50s

Blito appears to be lining up a pass on paul at Double Droite but Paul is unpredictable on the brakes.
He appears to block but it is a loss of control under braking which fortunately Blito manages to avoid.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h03m10s

Martin attempts to pass Alistair on the inside at Virage Du Parc but he has no hope of making the pass successfully coming from so far back and having no overlap at all.
Martin had attempted a pass at Double Droite a few seconds earlier which he actually made until he ran out of track.
Alistair was always going to take the racing line and had every right to it.


Server replay time: 0h03m55s

Paul runs wide through T1 and is slow on the grass but recovers without spinning.
Blito had been following him closely and has now moved past, so when Paul retakes the track he moves to the racing line where Blito is.
Paul should have expected Blito to be there having seen him following him up to the incident.
The server shows no contact and Paul's car reacts violently suggesting warp is involved.
Only Paul was affected.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h15m20s

Alistair is defending his position from an eager Blito while Fabio keeps a close eye on proceedings.
Alistair turns in to the final turn but Blito has got alongside in a valid passing attempt and he has actually got his nose in front at turn in.
Al may have been confused when he could still see a Ferrari in his mirrors but this was Fabio.


Server replay time: 0h19m10s

Vosblod attempts to pass Karliss at Virage Du Parc and the 2 collide.
Karliss is recovering from a slide at Double Droite and is getting back up to speed allowing Vosblod to get alongside. Vosblod keeps a tight line but Karliss turns in to him and takes the racing line where Vosblod is.
Karliss can see Vosblod in his mirrors on the straight leading up to the corner and moves over to leave him room.
When they reach the braking zone and the corner Karliss can no longer see Vosblod but he can hear him so he must be alongside and he should leave him room or risk a collision.
This incident shows the importance of being able to take a corner using alternate lines as in a race you cannot be sure of being on the racing line all of the time. It also shows the importance of being aware of what is around you, using sound as well as sight to learn where other cars are.

  • karlisss (Karlisss-65)penalty — Simple Side By Side Contact — 1 place lost (plus 5 for penalty points)


Server replay time: 0h27m05s

Fabio attempts to pass Karliss in to Virage Du Parc but the two collide and spin.
Fabio has no overlap at turn in and comes from a long way back.
The fact that he can lap more quickly than Karliss at this stage of the race has no bearing on the incident and Karliss had every right to take the racing line.


Server replay time: 0h31m05s

Nigel passes Alistair around the outside of Double Droite and the 2 collide.
Alistair keeps a tight line through the fist and second apex but drifts wide on the exit and collects Nigel.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h39m00s

Martin once again demonstrates his prowess at running out of fuel before the final corner.
Luckily this time he manages to take his Stop n Go before finishing the race.

  • Racing incident

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« Reply #30 on: February 23, 2011, 09:25:33 PM +0000 »

I sure am, in fact I think that proves you're ready to move up to Amateurs (which BTW I hope would be renamed to something else next season, lol)!  Grin

I thought about this, this season. Probably leaving Novices as Novices, and changing Amateurs to Pro and leaving the possibility of a middle division called Amateurs should we ever get the numbers to run it.
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« Reply #31 on: February 23, 2011, 09:46:49 PM +0000 »

Qually went OK and with such a short lap, like Watkins, a few tenths can mean a lot of places but luckily I stayed in the front half of the grid.

That improved to 4th by driving underneath an airborne Ferrari and I followed Ronnie for a few laps but once he got his tyres warmed up and his squirming about stopped I couldn't stay with him.

Norbert caught me in the early laps but when he had a look at me at DD he got all twitchy and never really got close again.

Ross caught me after his spin and as we're in different battles I let him go and followed his tow for a while but he couldn't get close enough to the lead 2.

I thought I would give Norbert a ray of hope with 4 laps to go by taking T1 backwards which was fun but not to be recommended.

Looking forward to the slippy, slidy Adelaide and sealing 3rd in the Championship.
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« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2011, 09:36:05 PM +0000 »

Adelaide world record 1-32,1  :O
wish some day ALIENS could abduct me and implant a secret speed chip in my brains.
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« Reply #33 on: February 24, 2011, 10:50:13 PM +0000 »

Have to apologise to Jason for taking him out - he came from my blind spot a couple of times and the second time I should have expected it. Soz mate.
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« Reply #34 on: February 25, 2011, 11:17:10 AM +0000 »

       Apologies for that startline incident Paul, I was trying to avoid tail-ending a car and moved to the side without checking my mirror. Thought you'd have gone to the inside lol.
       Race was ok, with a few errors due to lack of track time . Came across a Ferrari parked facing the wrong way on DD, hit him square on and sent him merrily on his way and myself onto the grass Sad- no damage though. The times we were in close company were dam'n good racing and this event goes down as great fun, despite my result,  and the sooner we're back here the better.
       
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« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2011, 03:34:39 PM +0000 »

Absolutely no problems mate, tried to avoid you but I don't have enough control to get out of those yet. More racing needed lol. As far as I am concerned that was just racing mayhem off the line. Any way, don't worry 'cos if you get a penalty, I will have some to offset it!
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« Reply #36 on: February 25, 2011, 07:04:48 PM +0000 »

I've been asked to explain submitting a replay clip as evidence for a moderated incident. You only need to do this in the case of contact and particularly for a incident where warp may be involved, which is where the server sees contact but the driver replays don't.

So, to submit your plea, sorry, report, click on the link near the top of the race thread ^ which opens a window for you with places to enter the time (in race minutes) of the incident, a report of the incident, the other drivers involved and at the bottom is the attach a replay option.

Just clip the incident from your own replay, save it and zip it up before submitting.

Anybody who does not submit a clip may find themselves penalised even though their replay may prove there was no contact. The moderators can only make their decisions based on the evidence that they have at the time. It is not possible to submit a clip later once you have been penalised. You must do it before the moderation.

The link above for submitting reports and clips generally stays open for a week after the race. The moderator then removes it when they begin to look at the incidents. If they want advice or input from the other moderators they will wait a few days for that to happen, so the mod may not be published in time for the next race in the event of a difficult incident or a particularly messy race.

You have been warned! MUHUHUHUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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« Reply #37 on: February 25, 2011, 08:37:06 PM +0000 »

Better late than never, here's my race comment!
First of all, for who didn't realise about it yet, this was my first race for the Black Night Racing Team!!  rockon
Unfortunately the final results was under my expectations... oops

Qualify:
I pushed since the beginning but I wasn't able to reach my PB and I didn't understand why.
Then, I just discovered that I had a full tank...  eek
Back on track with only a splash of fuel and I immediately shaved my PB

Race:
Starting from 5th place on grid, behind Attilio, Norm, Ross and Ronnie, wasn't bad at all.
I had a very good start, and it's not that easy for me with the 65s, and I jumped in front of Ronnie.
Then, Norm braked for T1 earlier than I expected so I moved right to avoid any contact: unfortunately the banking of the track side pushed me back on track against Norm's car... Sorry mate!
Shift + R and Stop'n'G, I was on last place.
Lap after lap, I climbed some positions with some difficulties even if I was quicker that the other ones.
Then, at beginning of lap 15 when I was 9th, to avoid a collision with Blito I spun and I lost two positions.
On lap 21, after I was close to Karliss since some laps, I tried to pass him on the turn before the Dunlop bridge but we collided together... Sorry mate!!
At same time I was lapped by Attilio and I tried to follow his pace but, after two laps, I went wide on the same turn as I crashed against Karliss...
Lapped by Ronnie too, I avoided to follow his pace but I had Karliss and Norm glued to my Ferrari tail but after some laps I lost both of them and I finished 8th setting the 4th FL of the race, waiting for the moderators' decisions...
See you all down under for the last race of this great Novices Season!
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« Reply #38 on: February 25, 2011, 08:49:28 PM +0000 »

Hi Fabio,
Although I can see that I was a fair bit slower into T1 than yourself ,I`m not quite sure how you can call that avoiding me as there was a decent gap between us. I think you just got over excited and gave it too many beans Cheesy

Nige - the backwards Fezza at DD was Al. I think his spare change had dropped out of its slots and he was scrabbling around in his footwell for the coins.....
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« Reply #39 on: February 26, 2011, 10:48:46 PM +0000 »

Had to miss this one due to a clash with another unamed sport (but we won, away in Copenhagen!). Rather a shame as I quite like the track and it promised some entertaining racing.

In the team championship we've been struggling in the Novices League this season so I'm pleased to welcome Fabio to the ranks of Black Night Racing.

Will see you for the closing battle at Adelaide.
 
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« Reply #40 on: February 26, 2011, 11:25:11 PM +0000 »

I'm pleased to welcome Fabio to the ranks of Black Night Racing.

I've seen better debuts........  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2011, 08:06:58 AM +0000 »

Hi Fabio,
Although I can see that I was a fair bit slower into T1 than yourself ,I`m not quite sure how you can call that avoiding me as there was a decent gap between us. I think you just got over excited and gave it too many beans Cheesy

Even if I don't understand 100% what does "to give too many beans" mean, I agree with you: as soon I saw you were beginning to spin I attached myself to the brake pedal with both feet and I started spinning too... Embarrassed
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« Reply #42 on: February 27, 2011, 08:11:12 AM +0000 »

I'm pleased to welcome Fabio to the ranks of Black Night Racing.

I've seen better debuts........  Grin Grin Grin

...it was probably due to a "performance anxiety": it happens when you finally got a date with the most beautiful girl of the town  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #43 on: February 27, 2011, 10:13:35 AM +0000 »

Even if I don't understand 100% what does "to give too many beans" mean, I agree with you: as soon I saw you were beginning to spin I attached myself to the brake pedal with both feet and I started spinning too... Embarrassed

Thats very curious as I didnt spin at all. I didnt even look out of shape at that corner. I was just plain slow   Grin
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« Reply #44 on: February 27, 2011, 10:53:29 AM +0000 »

I'm pleased to welcome Fabio to the ranks of Black Night Racing.

I've seen better debuts........  Grin Grin Grin

...it was probably due to a "performance anxiety": it happens when you finally got a date with the most beautiful girl of the town  Grin Grin Grin

Which, in this case, is far from the truth. We all know who SHE actually is!  Wink

@Blito - sometimes due to warp/lag, cars tend to keep drifting to the side in a corner and it appears as if they have lost control, only to "regain" it a second or two later. Maybe that's what happened on Fabio's end and what he reacted to.
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