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February 22, 2011, 09:42:39 PM +0000 - Albi (1959-80) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Artiglietti
 
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 1 1:15.387
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1 38:24.674
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30 1:15.834
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Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 4 +0.686
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2 +5.854
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30 1:16.249
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Dunlop  
Ross Neilson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +0.643
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3 +27.824
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30 1:16.243
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Dunlop  
miner2049er
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +1.346
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4 +41.228
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30 1:17.164
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Dunlop  
norbert
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 6 +1.207
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5 +48.575
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30 1:17.131
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Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 11 +1.892
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6 +1:01.945
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30 1:17.304
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Dunlop  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 15 +2.282
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7 +1:12.517
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30 1:17.425
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Dunlop  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 5 +0.968
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8 (+12) +1L
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29 1:16.471
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Dunlop  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 2 +0.585
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9 +6.322
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29 1:16.989
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Goodyear  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 12 +2.183
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10 (+2) +9.273
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29 1:17.367
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Dunlop  
karlisss
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 9 +1.488
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11 (+6) +24.128
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29 1:16.705
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Goodyear  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 13 +2.236
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12 (+3) +24.384
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29 1:17.452
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Goodyear  
happyal
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 8 +1.447
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13 +24.841
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29 1:17.527
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Dunlop  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 14 +2.267
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14 +1:04.249
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29 1:18.104
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Goodyear  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 10 +1.685
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15 +16L
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14 1:17.166
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Dunlop  
5 UKGPL.65
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 16 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Albi proved very popular among drivers and they have asked for a swift return there. A simple track to learn but a difficult one to master, where a few tenths can mean starting at the wrong end of the grid.

We saw some incidents involving the first graduates from the Jethro Walters School Of Motoring, but hopefully they will follow their mentor's example by learning from their mistakes and penalties and improving their online race craft as Jethro has.

The enjoyable race has left everybody eager for the final showdown at Adelaide. As long as there is not a political revolt in the meantime that is.


Server replay time: 0h00m40s

Nigel moves to the left at the start and collects Paul.
Nigel can at no time see Paul in his mirrors, but knowing that a car has started on that side of the grid behind him, the car must be alongside so he should keep to his own side of the grid.


Server replay time: 0h00m50s

Fabio follows Norm and Ross to T1, but Norm lifts to follow Ross through rather than run around the outside of him.
Fabio appears to attempt a pass as he closes on Norm but he has no overlap and should have lifted to follow Norm.
Fabio clips Norm's right rear and spins him before being warped from the track.
Norm was slow on entry even though this was Lap 1 so I have mitigated that by removing one of the Penalty places from the very ambitious overtake rule because it was still Fabio's responsibility to avoid a collision having seen Norm and Ross battling for the corner.


Server replay time: 0h00m58s

Blito stays right to avoid the collision between Nigel and Paul.
Paul rejoins and can barely hear Blito alongside into T1.
As soon as Blito appears in his view Paul takes avoiding action but Blito seems to feel a contact and hits the stricken Norm.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h02m50s

Blito appears to be lining up a pass on paul at Double Droite but Paul is unpredictable on the brakes.
He appears to block but it is a loss of control under braking which fortunately Blito manages to avoid.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h03m10s

Martin attempts to pass Alistair on the inside at Virage Du Parc but he has no hope of making the pass successfully coming from so far back and having no overlap at all.
Martin had attempted a pass at Double Droite a few seconds earlier which he actually made until he ran out of track.
Alistair was always going to take the racing line and had every right to it.


Server replay time: 0h03m55s

Paul runs wide through T1 and is slow on the grass but recovers without spinning.
Blito had been following him closely and has now moved past, so when Paul retakes the track he moves to the racing line where Blito is.
Paul should have expected Blito to be there having seen him following him up to the incident.
The server shows no contact and Paul's car reacts violently suggesting warp is involved.
Only Paul was affected.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h15m20s

Alistair is defending his position from an eager Blito while Fabio keeps a close eye on proceedings.
Alistair turns in to the final turn but Blito has got alongside in a valid passing attempt and he has actually got his nose in front at turn in.
Al may have been confused when he could still see a Ferrari in his mirrors but this was Fabio.


Server replay time: 0h19m10s

Vosblod attempts to pass Karliss at Virage Du Parc and the 2 collide.
Karliss is recovering from a slide at Double Droite and is getting back up to speed allowing Vosblod to get alongside. Vosblod keeps a tight line but Karliss turns in to him and takes the racing line where Vosblod is.
Karliss can see Vosblod in his mirrors on the straight leading up to the corner and moves over to leave him room.
When they reach the braking zone and the corner Karliss can no longer see Vosblod but he can hear him so he must be alongside and he should leave him room or risk a collision.
This incident shows the importance of being able to take a corner using alternate lines as in a race you cannot be sure of being on the racing line all of the time. It also shows the importance of being aware of what is around you, using sound as well as sight to learn where other cars are.

  • karlisss (Karlisss-65)penalty — Simple Side By Side Contact — 1 place lost (plus 5 for penalty points)


Server replay time: 0h27m05s

Fabio attempts to pass Karliss in to Virage Du Parc but the two collide and spin.
Fabio has no overlap at turn in and comes from a long way back.
The fact that he can lap more quickly than Karliss at this stage of the race has no bearing on the incident and Karliss had every right to take the racing line.


Server replay time: 0h31m05s

Nigel passes Alistair around the outside of Double Droite and the 2 collide.
Alistair keeps a tight line through the fist and second apex but drifts wide on the exit and collects Nigel.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h39m00s

Martin once again demonstrates his prowess at running out of fuel before the final corner.
Luckily this time he manages to take his Stop n Go before finishing the race.

  • Racing incident

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« on: February 21, 2011, 07:55:08 PM +0000 »

UKGPL Season 20 Novices Trophy (65 Mod) Race 9 Feb 22nd

The penultimate round of the season takes us to the French countryside airstrip of Albi.

Never a Formula 1 circuit, this small, typical airfield circuit north of Toulouse was used on the F2 calendar. Being a small, tight circuit where power is less of an issue, Albi should sort the men from the boys, or as I said rather amusingly in Season 17, les hommes à partir des garçons as they like to say in le pit lane.

As always I would remind you to take care on Lap 1 through the intitial section at Courbe Armand Brouzes and again under braking for Double Droite de l’Aerodrome where the field is likely to get compressed again.

You can download the track here:
http://a.bosco.free.fr/gpl/albi67.htm

Please see the Novices registration thread for an explanation of the chassis allocations shown below:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=8416.0

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DRIVER  
 CHASSIS  
Vosblod
Cooper
NHance
BT11
Miner2049er
Cooper
Il_Lupo
Ferrari
Billy NoBrakes
BT11
HappyAl
Ferrari
Gilles27
BT7
Burtoner
3
Nigel Smith
Honda
Ronnie Peterson
Lotus
Blito
Ferrari
Mark65
1
Artiglietti
Cooper
BadBlood
Honda
RogUK
Cooper
Norbert
Ferrari
Maddog
Cooper

RESERVE
DRIVER  
 CHASSIS  
Karliss
Honda
Adamg67
BT11
Maestro
Cooper

Reserve drivers should not join the server until there are only 30 minutes of qualifying left so as to give the FULL TIME drivers chance to join, and drivers are not to go out on track until there are 30 minutes of qualifying left as this helps all drivers join the server successfully.

Please restrict chat to pit messages if necessary, and this includes the end of the race, until all running drivers have completed the necessary laps.

The Novice races are run under Int Long rules and all incidents will be moderated.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL5
IP address = ping myjamesonline.net
Race date = 22-02-2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Albi (albi67)
Variant = 65F1
Damage Model = Int
Qualifying time = 35 minutes
Race length = 30 laps
Password: see above

65 Patch: The 2.02 Release of the 65mod can and should be used.
http://bit.ly/d8dECl

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2011, 08:40:36 AM +0000 »

Can you confirm this is going to be a short and sweet 24 laps!
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2011, 09:16:31 AM +0000 »

this is gonna be interesting... i`ve done no practise whatsoever for this one and  i`m a bit off the pace although i do like albi and dare say there is  heap of time to come off.....  looking forward to it..
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2011, 12:05:00 PM +0000 »

Can you confirm this is going to be a short and sweet 24 laps!

Well spotted Ronnie.

This will now be a 30 lap race.
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2011, 01:57:26 PM +0000 »

This will now be a 30 lap race.

Not for me it won't  laugh
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2011, 03:44:58 PM +0000 »

Not sure if I can make tonight due to a clash with the football schedules. Shame because I was getting reasonably good times in practice & the set up was working well. If I don't make it will see you at Adelaide.
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2011, 03:47:26 PM +0000 »

Not sure if I can make tonight due to a clash with the football schedules. Shame because I was getting reasonably good times in practice & the set up was working well. If I don't make it will see you at Adelaide.

Please don't tell me you're a Chelsea fan...
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2011, 03:50:21 PM +0000 »

Please don't tell me you're a Chelsea fan...

Tottenham still have plenty of time to eff it up...
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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2011, 04:10:54 PM +0000 »

Oi! You lot .

Knock it off will yer , this is a proper motor racing forum not a windy baggy convention  offtopic


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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2011, 04:15:44 PM +0000 »

Hee hee . . . they're just kicking stuff about.  Albi there, y'all! Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2011, 10:27:24 PM +0000 »

im so stupid but duno why....
i refill car before start till 34laps... set the same set to race but during race my car stoped twice....
after race i checked and my car was filled to 13laps...
how can it be , i cant understund, its not the first time i doing that way.

i had great race till lap 13... when stoped first time
also 2 errors collisions in wide turn before bridge.
if ban me to next 3 races then start from today. also from what 3 races?

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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2011, 11:06:39 PM +0000 »

Oi! You lot .

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LOL Fantastic race. Gutted to finish 14th because I was running 12th for a long time. Made a mistake on lap 28 - which was my first off and went into the armco - end of. Shame because Nigel Al and I had just caught Karliss and we would have had a time of it. Wasn't particularly quick (2-3 secs of Art) but reasonably consistent and managed to hold Norm up for a while (not quite sure how I got past in the first place, maybe he span) He was quicker than me but the Waza power down the straight served me well. Hope I didn't block you off Norm. Let me know if I did.

Pulled out a lead on Nigel and Al and was all going well but I had to let Ross past which I did a poor job of and lost time and rhythm. Sorry Ross. Al closed up and went past but lost it so that was Nigel behind and he was putting big pressure on - I could only hear one engine note down the straights! We caught Karliss coming out of the pits and I thought if I could get past him it would serve as a buffer. Only 2 laps to go had held Nigel off for 3 or 4 but it was tough. Accelerated a bit early out of the last part of T1 and put wheels on the grass - dizzy.

Never mind - lots of progress and I actually had a race where I didn't go off on my own.

Nigel cut me off at the start in a most unWaza like move - take a look - you'll be surprised Smiley Had a coming together with Jason twice with blind spot issues - let Mike sort that out - I've looked and I am not sure - hope they are racing incidents but maybe not. Apart form that - good and clean. Great fun. Best yet.
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2011, 11:12:25 PM +0000 »

Al closed up and went past but lost it

LOL, yes that was the point that the wife thought was the perfect time to start chating with me Sad Sorry if I gave you a scare.

Will do a full report soon, a bit down at the moment as I had more pace that I showed here and feel a bit hard done by being so low down.
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2011, 11:24:32 PM +0000 »

That makes me feel good - I thought I was racing properly Sad Glad you were slow. Gave me a chance to race you... big fun
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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2011, 11:44:38 PM +0000 »

also 2 errors collisions in wide turn before bridge.
Might one of those be I'm on the long straight, you know I'm alongside (it was a long straight). I hug the inside of the (WIDE) corner as much as I possibly can but you just turn in as though I'm not there!!!


Is that your idea of corner rights Karliss?

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If a driver amasses a huge number of penalties then clearly the yellow card points system is not a sufficient deterrent and a race ban may be necessary. As a general rule anybody with 10 or more yellow card points who picks up another yellow card point will get a suspended race ban (suspended for 3 races). Any yellow cards picked up (in any division) during the suspension period means a race ban in the division that invoked the suspension. When the suspension has expired, another yellow card point will invoke another suspended race ban (again suspended for 3 races).
Beyond that it goes to a rest of season ban then a lifetime ban but I don't believe that's ever happened yet.
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