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March 06, 2011, 10:43:59 PM +0000 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Works
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 3 +0.505
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1 49:06.343
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33 1:28.380
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Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 5 +0.590
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2 +0.025
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33 1:28.377
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Firestone  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 4 +0.563
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3 +6.157
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33 1:28.287
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Goodyear  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 6 +0.608
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4 +17.807
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33 1:28.532
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Firestone  
jhalli
 
Honda RA300 F1 1967 8 +1.155
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5 +48.366
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33 1:29.009
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Firestone  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 11 +1.580
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6 +49.518
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33 1:29.449
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Firestone  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 9 +1.520
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7 +1L
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32 1:29.614
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Goodyear  
Baab
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 2 +0.331
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8 +2L
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31 1:28.392
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Firestone  
Rick Nauman
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 10 +1.534
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9 +11L
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22 1:28.824
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Firestone  
john roberts
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 7 +0.850
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10 +15L
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18 1:29.082
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Firestone  
Pelle_B
 TEAM-GTLDK
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 1 1:27.573
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11 +21L
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12 1:28.023
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Goodyear  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 12 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
Gpg UKGPL
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 13 ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Nice and simple as no reported incidents in this one.
So it only leaves me to congratulate Hristo on his ninth championship win in the 67's. Tommie did a great job and made him work for it.

March 07, 2011, 09:24:40 AM +0000 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Ronniepeterson
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 1 1:28.635
145.094mph
1 31:51.257
141.304mph
21 1:29.740
143.307mph
Firestone  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 4 +0.484
144.306mph
2 +0.560
141.263mph
21 1:29.809
143.197mph
Firestone  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 5 +0.590
144.134mph
3 +16.783
140.074mph
21 1:30.002
142.890mph
Firestone  
Cookie
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 3 +0.122
144.894mph
4 +17.243
140.040mph
21 1:29.396
143.859mph
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 7 +1.613
142.500mph
5 +23.867
139.561mph
21 1:30.331
142.370mph
Firestone  
Michael Turner
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 6 +1.133
143.262mph
6 +38.930
138.483mph
21 1:30.459
142.168mph
Firestone  
happyal
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 9 +2.962
140.402mph
7 +1:21.215
135.544mph
21 1:31.412
140.686mph
Firestone  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 10 +4.111
138.662mph
8 +1:26.455
135.189mph
21 1:31.937
139.883mph
Firestone  
BookieW
 HikiWazaRacing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 11 +4.977
137.380mph
9 +1L
134.147mph
20 1:31.724
140.207mph
Firestone  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 2 +0.010
145.077mph
10 +19.464
132.799mph
20 1:28.844
144.752mph
Firestone  
hannah
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 8 +2.933
140.446mph
11 +1:10.676
129.378mph
20 1:32.025
139.749mph
Firestone  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 12 +5.073
137.239mph
12 +3L
125.688mph
18 1:34.300
136.377mph
Disco
Firestone  
s2173
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 13 +10.283
130.011mph
13 +4L
110.051mph
17 1:40.096
128.480mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 14 DNS ---
---
Firestone  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 14 15 ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Everyone complied with the reset rules and only one item reported which was classed as a racing incident.
So congratulations to Bernie on his third 67's championship. Mention goes to Ronnie too who was hot on his heels finishing only three points behind.


Server replay time: 0h18m26s

Paul spins off at Parabolica, can't see any cars approaching and rejoins off the racing line. Skymole is approaching but takes the corner wide with resulting contact.
This can't be classed as a bad rejoin but neither can Skymole be deemed to be at fault.
Hence racing incident.

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« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2011, 02:16:12 PM +0000 »

It just won't feel right if you miss it, Tom.
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« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2011, 06:37:17 PM +0000 »

Shame Tommie.  Sorry to hear you cant get there.

Sadly, after picking up a fairly bad knee injury in taekwondo tournament today while grappling with a 20 year old (will I ever learn), there is no way I will make tonight, or likely at least the next week.  I wont have the same impact on the championship as Tommie though  laugh

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« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2011, 10:54:16 PM +0000 »

As long as she was hot Steve Wink

Think I'd rather be duffed up at marshal arts than suffer the infuriatingly embarrasing defeat I managed tonight.
At least SHE will be pleased  Angry
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« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2011, 11:07:49 PM +0000 »

SHE might be pleased with H but SHE'll be furious with me - threw away eighth. Great first half then  lost it at Ascari after I clipped the armco, then managed to spin about five times and was awful when lapping and being lapped. Lapping someone was a new experience and I found it very hard!

WD to Bernie and a fast finishing Ronnie.

Season best left forgotten for me. Look forward to giving Hannah a closer battle next time.
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« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2011, 11:19:42 PM +0000 »

Get well soon Steve  Smiley,

Another dismal race by me which pretty much summed up my driving this season. By driving a car that just doesn't quite have the pace to match it with the frontrunners, I overdrive to make up lost time and more often than not, spin out time and time again through small errors.

The first few laps were good fun, but soon after, braked too late into the Parabolica and resumed in last, and lapped erratically to 7th at the chequered flag. This has easily been my most dismal season in the 67s so far. It seems the competition has vastly improved since my last full season in S17. Though if I stopped making so many errors and just lapped consistently at my own pace I could have finished a damn sight higher than my lowly 11th in the table.

No matter, it's something to take onboard for S21. With no laptop to put up with, and a lovely widescreen TV turned computer monitor, there'll be no excuses on the poor hardware front  Wink. Congrats to H on a fine drive in the Honda to wrap up another title in style. Thanks to all for such brilliant racing this season and for UKGPL to continue to provide a fabulous online league. It's been a pleasure.
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« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2011, 11:26:34 PM +0000 »

Just a quick note top apologise for the Privateers server / race length issues.
As I usually run the Spec races it is Intermediate Short & whatever the server throws up. To cut a long story short I wasn't really sure about how to alter the race distance. Rather than experiment I took a call to run at deafult settings at 21 Laps. If you wanted a longer race it would have been at Pro settings.
I have now worked out this particular little problem.

The championship came down to Ronnie & Bernie & was settled on the night. Another 12 laps could have made a difference but only if Bernie nade a mistake.
Good point to say well done to Bernie on taking the Privateers crown - proves you're never too old to play computer games (sorry Sims).
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« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2011, 12:57:30 AM +0000 »

very happy with my result but not quiet so happy how I got there.climbed in championship because of disconnects.my pace was a bit careful but ok.Feel specially sorry for baab.fix your connection  ! Wink.Had a nice battle with rick for like 10 laps.
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« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2011, 01:09:57 AM +0000 »

good racing with Evil,we have our Honda battle for 7th spot  Grin

he passed me when i was struggling with my underteery Honda on Lesmos but could gain the cap few laps later, it actually takes me till 2 laps to go to pass him again and get back to my 6th place. Cheesy

thanks all for racing F167 graduates !
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« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2011, 01:29:14 AM +0000 »

This was one of the hardest races I've ever had, but also one of the most unexpected race finishs and results as well!

I was struggling during the whole Qualifying session, unable to come to terms with the car setup and car handling. It seems I've forgotten how to drive in the smooth manner that Monza demands. It's probably habits picked up from driving the BT7 so much these days - it requires almost no throttle control and almost no steering input, and this doesn't really work with the RA300 at this track.

I was making corrections all the time and even though eventually managed to slot to 3rd on the grid, I went on with a race setup which was supposedly tested in whatever was my previous Honda Monza league race here and I expected it to work well. Wrong! It didn't!

I had an OK start, but a Lotus made a rocket start and went through in the middle of the track, so I just kept my position on the left and dropped to 4th. Tim was soon putting pressure on me and passed me after a couple of laps, and I had no response to that. In the meantime Pelle was gone into the distance while Bob and Al were locked up in their own battle, until Bob made it through and opened up a gap.

I was struggling to keep control of the car in almost ever corner. It was very unstable under braking and corner entry, then understeering in the middle of the corner, and then very loose under throttle. It took me some 2/3rds of the race distance to adjust my driving style well enough to be able to increase my pace, but by that time Al had opened up a 3 seconds gap, with Tim another 2-3 seconds ahead of him.

I was so preoccupied with driving the car and trying to maintain and then reduce the gap to Al, that I never saw Pelle retiring so early, so I thought I was still going in 5th. If Tom was to be believe, 5th was all I needed to take the title, but I didn't want to give up on a higher position yet. JR was keeping me honest for the first half of the race, running 2 seconds behind, until he disconnected.

Even though I began to close up the gap to Al, it was happening at a painfully slow rate - no more than 1-2 tenths per lap, and sometimes not even that! With about 6 laps to go I was finally within 1 second of him, but I was putting so much pressure on myself that I made 2 little mistakes and dropped half a second back, which made me really angry.

I pushed as hard as I dared and closed up on Al once more, but with 2 to go it didn't look possible unless I made zero mistakes and/or Al made a mistake at all; he was flawless throughout the whole distance until that moment. Still thinking I was in 5th place, I never noticed when I moved up to 3rd with Bob's unfortunate retirement from the lead with just 2 laps to go.

On the start of the last lap I was already getting a decent tow from Al, but his Lotus was accelerating rapidly and I needed to take Lesmos MUCH better than him if I was to stand any chance of attempting an attack. Well, I didn't take Lesmo 1 much better as I lost the car a bit, but then much to my disbelief Al went wide on the entry to Lesmo 2 and even though I messed it up a bit as well, I managed to accelerate earlier and glue myself to his back on the run down to Ascari!

I had to lift up to stay behind, but then floored it and used the slipstream to go for a pass on the outside of Parabolica. I always like passing on the outside there as it just seems the easier thing to do, allowing you to carry more speed and accelerate earlier, which is what I needed to stand a chance in maintaining my position until the s/f line.

Just as we entered Parabolica side by side, I saw a car in the gravel with my peripheral vision and thought "This must be Tim, so I have a chance to take 3rd place now!". I accelerated earlier as planned, but didn't have as much gap in front of Al as I would've liked, so he instantly tucked behind my Honda and his superior acceleration allowed him to move on my right as soon as we continued in straight line towards the chequered flag.

It appeared as though I was going to lose 3rd (or so I thought) in the very last moment, but Al changed up a gear a few meters before the line and lost just enough momentum to remain behind me - we finished 2 hundreds from each other!

And then it turned out I had won the race! Say what?! How was that possible, lol! It goes to prove that you should never ever give up, no matter what position (you think) you're running at and how faster the cars in front are! It also goes to show that even my awareness has its limits and they were put to the test in this race.  Roll Eyes

Anyway, I'm extremely pleased with the result, although it was my lucky day/evening apparently. Shame that Tom could not attend the race and defend his Championship chances though.  Sad

Commiserations to Tim for losing the race on the final lap (I'm still fresh from doing the same at Edmonton, so I know how bad that feels) and to Bob who disconnected from the lead with 2 laps to go.

At the very least, I hope SHE will be pleased, because...ALL MY VICTORIES ARE BELONG TO HER!!! Grin

-=Hristo=-
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« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2011, 08:30:17 AM +0000 »

First of all, congratulations to Bernie on winning the Driver's championship for the second season running clap adding another virtual trophy to the Soggies' virtual trophy room.

My own race was very enjoyable despite a disastrous start when I couldn't avoid running into Fabio who had gone sideways at the start. HH then ran into me and I was launched catapulting across the track collecting AB and PW en route. Miraculously the usually fragile Lotus emerged from these aerial acrobatics intact and I was able to continue slowly climbing back up the field with some good racing against AB.

A good end to an enjoyable season and on to Season 21.
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« Reply #40 on: March 07, 2011, 09:49:21 AM +0000 »

Great Fun race for me.

I didn't get any pratice in and only started at 20:30, found an old setup which I quickly discovered was rubbish so I was forced to use the default setup.

I was quite surprised to be so high on the grid, I really was expecting a lonely race at the back so was happy with 9th. Looking at the grid it looked like I should of driven the Lotus, like everyone else, but Monza screams Ferrari to me Smiley

At the start I saw some cars having a few problems, I tried to thread myself past them, but just got clipped. Not a big deal as it was just a spin for me and I got going again quickly. I saw that Billy was in front of me, and pulling away quite quickly. Behind me was Cookie, don't know why he was behind me, he must of been invloved in the first lap crash. He wasn't there for long, as he breezed past me.

Next up was Michael, who was also quite a bit faster than me. I just tried to get good drive out of the corners onto the straights and defend the corners from Michael. I think I own a big thank you to Michael, as some of my braking was a little wild until i got use to braking off line. He got a good run on me down teh back straight, I took the inside line but he made a great pass on the outside, well done mate, it was a great pass and you made it stick well.

I tried to follow Michael, and was just about keeping him in touch, not really worring him and no where near for any type of pass. It didn't last long as my engine blew as I went past the start-finish line. I took my one and only Shift&R, and the next lap I pitted for my stop and go. Nigel was behind me, but the scare of my blown engine ment that I took it easy for a safe finish.

Overall a good clean race from me, one that I'm really happy with. Thank you too Billy, I think that 21 laps was better than no race for me, and I'm sure that most people will aggree.
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« Reply #41 on: March 07, 2011, 10:17:53 AM +0000 »

Sorry Bill to not have been around last night to do any support, I had another commitment. I've just read now Tim's PM.
Ciao

Just a quick note top apologise for the Privateers server / race length issues.
As I usually run the Spec races it is Intermediate Short & whatever the server throws up. To cut a long story short I wasn't really sure about how to alter the race distance. Rather than experiment I took a call to run at deafult settings at 21 Laps. If you wanted a longer race it would have been at Pro settings.
I have now worked out this particular little problem.

The championship came down to Ronnie & Bernie & was settled on the night. Another 12 laps could have made a difference but only if Bernie nade a mistake.
Good point to say well done to Bernie on taking the Privateers crown - proves you're never too old to play computer games (sorry Sims).
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« Reply #42 on: March 07, 2011, 10:45:42 AM +0000 »

Results uploaded, any Incident Reports by close of play Friday please. Congratulations to our provisional champions Hristo and Bernie. A review of the Privateers shows everyone complied with the single reset rule.
I will load up the server replays tonight.
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« Reply #43 on: March 07, 2011, 10:57:18 AM +0000 »

Feel a bit better about this now. Had a good first ten laps and built up a nice lead on Bookie and Nigel but lost it coming down to parabolica. That put me back and as I was recovering, skymole took a wide line and just clipped me back into the sand. That put me into the clutches of Ronnie and Bernie who I let past in very clumsy fashion (sorry boys) but I held them up equally I think Sad Then slowed to let a Lotus past and realised it was Hannah who I was racing for position! Span at Parabolica and had to shift-r Silly mistake but my concentration had gone. Put in a 1:34.5 which is slow but quick enough for me. Then next lap lost it at Della Roggia trying to push too hard for my skill level and the handling was evil after that. Good start. Bad end. That is why I am a novices novice!

No worries about the 21 laps Billy, grateful for your efforts in putting it on.
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« Reply #44 on: March 07, 2011, 11:01:00 AM +0000 »

Sorry Bill to not have been around last night to do any support, I had another commitment. I've just read now Tim's PM.
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No problem Fulvio. By lap 21 I was rather glad to see the chequered flag.
If anyone feels like they haven't seen enough of Parabolica then you are welcome to join the Spec races next Sunday - 67 Lotus & Eagle. I think we may have rather overdone Monza as the closing event (Grads / Ams / Historics / Spec). May be an idea for the Mod team to look at the calendars before the start of Season 21.
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