Aagramn
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« on: November 20, 2005, 08:54:22 PM +0000 » |
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I'm enjoying driving the GTC-65 cars, but I'm really struggling to get them stopped at the long downhill braking zones. I'm spinning off a lot of the time. In particular, I keep going off at Imola and Intermediate Mondello. Does anyone have any driving or setup tips? Would moving the brake balance further back help?
Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2005, 09:07:43 PM +0000 » |
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Which car? There are a whole bunch of different characteristics; some have brakes which overheat very easily, some are very nose heavy and thus are prone to removing all the weight from the rears under downhill braking, some have really shocking lift-throttle oversteer, some have really dodgy suspension setups.
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2005, 09:21:44 PM +0000 » |
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The Elan and the Corvette in particular. Two very different cars, but I'm having the same problem with them.
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2005, 10:26:04 PM +0000 » |
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Moving the brake balance might help. If they're spinning when you first hit the brakes you might want to try a stiffer (higher percentage) coast side in the differerential.
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2005, 10:34:06 PM +0000 » |
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I'd go for moving the brake balance forward with the reasoning that, if the back is getting very light, the last thing you want is heavy applications of brakes to lock the rears. Higher coast will defo help a bit too as Dave says. The Elan is made much more stable in general by upping the camber to -2.0 by the way.
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2005, 12:19:02 AM +0000 » |
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I've been trying the 'vette on Imola, and have found that using a lot of front brake bias 66:34 has helped stop the oversteer under braking as well as stiffening the front up to stop it diving so much , and as Dave said higher coast also helped a lot, I also set the brakes for 90% 'cos I still haven't got a wheel :'( . Is there any way to post screenshots on this forum? (sorry for the stupid question),
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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2005, 07:24:00 AM +0000 » |
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Is there any way to post screenshots on this forum? (sorry for the stupid question),
Yes, but you have to host the pictures yourself and link to them.
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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2005, 07:29:23 AM +0000 » |
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Or you can use one of the free image hosts like ImageShack; http://www.imageshack.us/Pops
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2005, 09:26:28 AM +0000 » |
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thanks , hope this works and please don't laugh at the settings! I'm still learning ok! [Edited to put the image in as an image.]
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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2005, 09:27:26 AM +0000 » |
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I have had the same problem move brake balance forward it helped me, i have the same at Imola on the downhill section following the long right the back seems to go very light .
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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2005, 09:46:01 AM +0000 » |
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Left foot braking can help a lot to balance the car, i.e. retain some throttle rather than just full brakes. Braking initially only in a straight line is good too (the Imola example being a good one where this helps a lot). These tips only for those too impatient to mess about in the garage and who would rather drive around problems
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2005, 11:09:07 AM +0000 » |
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I forgot to mention - I turn autoclutch off and blip the throttle on downshifts too, which helps a lot to balance the car. I'm not sure how tricky autoclutch makes braking areas, since I haven't used it for a long while... it may possible be that it's "easier" than doing it yourself (but not as fun).
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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2005, 11:54:41 AM +0000 » |
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Thanks for the suggestions, will give them a try.
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2005, 07:21:05 PM +0000 » |
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Improved the Corvette by moving the brake balance forward a bit and increasing the coast as suggested. Managed to break into the 2:14s and beat the AI on Semi-Pro, thanks for the help.
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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2005, 08:47:45 PM +0000 » |
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I'll post a Hockenheim Corvette setup for you on the Team Shark forums Aagramn, it's a reasonable base for all the circuits. As most others have said the Corvette in particular needs quite a move in the brake balance forward.
The heavy yank tanks do still require a massive change in driving style to drive them.
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