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  • S21His Panchine: April 26, 2011
April 26, 2011, 10:42:38 PM +0100 - Panchine - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Historic (66)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA273 F1 1966 1 1:51.542
133.377mph
1 49:21.405
130.616mph
26 1:52.093
132.721mph
Goodyear  
Raoni Frizzo
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 13 2 +1:07.859
127.690mph
26 1:54.375
130.073mph
Goodyear  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 3 +1.240
131.911mph
3 +1:15.228
127.380mph
26 1:53.394
131.199mph
Firestone  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 8 +5.742
126.847mph
4 +1:15.433
127.371mph
26 1:53.364
131.233mph
Goodyear  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 5 +4.252
128.479mph
5 +1L
127.924mph
25 1:55.045
129.316mph
Goodyear  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA273 F1 1966 6 +4.543
128.157mph
6 +1:37.973
123.754mph
25 1:56.463
127.741mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA273 F1 1966 2 +1.090
132.086mph
7 +7L
130.114mph
19 1:52.881
131.795mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 9 +7.003
125.498mph
8 +8L
123.583mph
18 1:57.088
127.059mph
Disco
Firestone  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 4 +1.540
131.561mph
9 +10L
127.195mph
16 1:54.896
129.484mph
Disco
Goodyear  
BookieW
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 10 +13.519
118.959mph
10 +11L
113.969mph
15 2:04.726
119.279mph
Disco
Goodyear  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 11 +16.980
115.756mph
11 +19L
110.294mph
7 2:05.073
118.948mph
Disco
Firestone  
Ronniepeterson
 
Honda RA273 F1 1966 7 +4.707
127.976mph
12 +22L
120.522mph
4 2:01.010
122.941mph
Disco
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.5) F1 1966 13 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
1 UKGPL_T7
 
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 12 14 ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

So a new season and we are at Panchine an imagined track set in the beautiful lakelands of northern Italy. Qualification was full of the usual suspects with Hristo being somewhat faster than his Hiki-Waza team mate Evil Clive. Goran completed the top three with the only other sub 1:53 time.
As we all know, the first corner of any race is fraught with danger and so it proved this time as Goran was outpaced out of the first turn by a speeding FMG. As Goran slid wide, Tim had nowhere to go and the faintest of touches span tham both wildly in front of Martin who did well to avoid a collision. Tim got away relatively cleanly but Goran was dropped back to 9th.
The first part of the race was fairly hectic with battles up and down the grid. Out front Hristo and Clive were neck and neck with H always having the edge but given that Hristo's pole was over a second ahead of Clive, Evil was doing well to keep H in check. Indeed Clive briefly took the lead at Turn 1 on Lap 2 but H reasserted himself to get the lead back by Turn 5. Clive would lead again, briefly on Lap 6 and 7 but each time H came straight back.
Tim and Ronnie were now battling it out and Tim finally got past at turn 1 on lap 2. Next up was Phil who had avoided the debris on the first lap. Tim dived down the inside of Phil coming to the complex of turns starting with the Curva Isola Verde and overcooked it, finding the fence. Phil would have several more people assuming they could outbrake him into right handers but he kept a steady line and maintained his position. As Tim recovered he slightly baulked Ronnie who thus lost the chance to get his place back. This put Ronnie in the sights of Goran who lined him up, passed him... and then crashed! Meanwhile Tim had pressured Phil into an error at the complex - the sight of the iron railings and two 90 degree bends was proving a challenge.
So H led with Clive close behind. Martin having a quiet race was in third and a charging Tim fourth. Next up Phil, Ronnie, Fulvio, Raoni (the new boy from Brazil) and Goran. These were all so close you could throw a blanket over them - ok, quite a large blanket... bit further back was Nigel with Bookie and Fabio bringing up the rear.
Lap 5 was proving hectic with Bookie taking to the grass and Fabio going to talk to him... Ronnie catches Phil and tries to pass him at a right hander overcooks it and finds the hedge too sticky to continue. Fulvio and Raoni zoom past with Goran close behind. Raoni, who started from the pit lane, is on fire and lines Fulvio up. A clean pass gives him the place. Phil up next. He is dispatched on Lap 6 with a brave charge on the S/F straight. Raoni fourth and charging.
Phil, who had profited from the first lap crash, is now under pressure from Fulvio and Goran. Fulvio manages to slip past but Goran is too far back. Close racing between Phil and Goran for the next few laps allows Fulvio to build a lead over the two of them. Up front H and Clive stay close but in that order. Martin is having a nice Sunday drive and may be too far ahead for Tim and Raoni. At the other end, Nigel is having a steady race and Fabio retires having visited the greenery once too often. That leaves Bookie bringing up the rear.
That will stay the order until lap 11 when Phil makes a mistake at the Curve di Schiammo. The complex proves a game changer again. It will also account for Tim who seems to have been lucky when he hits the fence but as he slows his right hand front wheel does not. The sad sight of his Dunlop continuing to race spells the end.
Lap 15 and there is some excitement as H makes an error and finds himself facing the hedge. Luckily for the race leader Clive overdoes it braking and loses it sufficiently for the race order to be maintained. Bookie's engine lets go on Lap 16 and he coasts into the pits but not before Raoni adds insult to injury by spinning him at the entry!
On to Lap 19 and Phil, who is now driving a lonely race wickedly maintains his line in front of Clive who decides to lap him through the engine block. Oops. Clive is upside down and Phil is spinning. Can he continue. Maybe... until his engine becomes a fiery ball as he spins backwards into a tree. Luckily Phil disconnects just in time to allow Nigel to zoom through although not in time to avoid frightening him mightily.
The story of the race is now Goran hunting down Fulvio. Fulvio has maintained a ten second lead but Goran finds some speed and starts reeling in the home favourite. Lap 23 and Goran finds some amazing pace and late braking to take the place. Three laps of nose to engine racing ensues. The best battle of the day. Fulvio just cannot find a way through so Goran maintains his fourth place behind Raoni with Fulvio fifth and Nigel a lap down in sixth. H has gone.
But what is this. A mad dog has forgotten his extra petrol can and on the last lap a deathly silence descends! He has run out of gas. As he coasts sadly to a stop, Raoni, Goran and Fulvio all streak by.
Cracking race, lots of close battles and that complex from the Curva Isola Verde sorts the men from the boys. Special mention for Raoni. From last to second with great pace. Looks like this championship is going to be hard fought.

Paul "Badblood" Whitfield


Server replay time: 0h00m54s

Göran was 3rd and Tim was 4th on the grid but Tim did a better start so they entered T1 side by side with Tim on the outside. None of them could see the other. At the exit Göran was drifting left and there were Tim and they came into contact.

Both drivers must have known about the other because of the starting positions and that none of them saw the other so both should have taken better care to avoid contact. Göran by holding the inner line even on the exit and Tim by holding back a bit because he did not se Göran.

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Grand Prix Legends
F1 1966
1:51.542
133.377mph
Hristo Itchov
Qualifying
Honda RA273April 26, 2011, 10:42:38 PM +0100
S21His
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1966
1:52.093
132.721mph
Hristo Itchov
Race
Honda RA273April 26, 2011, 10:42:38 PM +0100
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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2011, 10:14:12 AM +0100 »

I had a strange sense of deja-vous when I downloaded this track.  Shocked

I did not recognise the name of the circuit and thought  it was going to be a new track to learn. But, I have definitely driven this circuit before, although many, many years ago and when the only mod option was 67's.
It must have been in my early on-line days because I now recall it sa an absolute sod of a circuit that saw me in the barriers at almost every bend!!! Things have improved a little because I find that I am now in the barriers at every 2nd bend  Wink.

I seem to recall that there were quite a few drivers from Hristo's area of the world when I was here last, and they were all disturbingly fast and consistant...unlike my efforts.  It was maybe a track that had just been released? back then and it may have been a BREASTS race.

Whatever, it is a great track and should provide some interesting racing. Looks like it might be a fun circuit for GT's too  Grin.
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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2011, 10:58:29 AM +0100 »

"This season drivers will be seeded and allocated a chassis group for the first race, this should prevent the first round being a virtual spec race."

Yes or no???


It's not like it matters to you, Ronnie. Regardless of whether we go this way or not, it's only me and Evil who were grouped, so you have free car choice anyway. Read the bottom of the first post.

It does matter to me Hristo. I did read the rules before I signed up (did you?) and thought they had been agreed and it seems very strange whether I or anyone else likes dislikes agrees or disagrees with them that we are contemplating changing them a few days before the first race. Your right this particular modification has little or no bearing on me personally and I concur that handicapping seems unnecessary in the first race of a new season. I am merely seeking clarification now to avoid turning up on the night to find this and possibly other changes which might affect me or anyone else. I just like to know the rules before I start thats all.
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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2011, 10:59:40 AM +0100 »

I had a strange sense of deja-vous when I downloaded this track.  Shocked

I did not recognise the name of the circuit and thought  it was going to be a new track to learn. But, I have definitely driven this circuit before, although many, many years ago and when the only mod option was 67's.
It must have been in my early on-line days because I now recall it sa an absolute sod of a circuit that saw me in the barriers at almost every bend!!! Things have improved a little because I find that I am now in the barriers at every 2nd bend  Wink.

I seem to recall that there were quite a few drivers from Hristo's area of the world when I was here last, and they were all disturbingly fast and consistant...unlike my efforts.  It was maybe a track that had just been released? back then and it may have been a BREASTS race.

Whatever, it is a great track and should provide some interesting racing. Looks like it might be a fun circuit for GT's too  Grin.

I had exactly the same feeling, as well as by reading the name of the track! It took me a lap or two to recognize some places, especially T1, and remember that I drove it some 5 years ago when it was released, in a 65 test race.  Grin Not that I actually knew the layout well and it's quite different in these 3L 66s.

BTW, a tip - do not follow the shitty groove line. It's so wrong in places...
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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2011, 11:04:49 AM +0100 »

ahem?!!! When have you ever noticed me following the groove line on any track??!! Roll Eyes
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« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2011, 11:10:26 AM +0100 »

ahem?!!! When have you ever noticed me following the groove line on any track??!! Roll Eyes

The tip was not for you!  Grin
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« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2011, 11:36:44 AM +0100 »

This track has an unexpected advantage to it - when the kinks are flat out, the hedges have less resilience than you'd expect.  Nonetheless, I'm doing my best to clear a path. Grin 
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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2011, 12:01:04 PM +0100 »

The question is - can you take the last turn flat out?!  Grin
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« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2011, 12:38:23 PM +0100 »

Absolutely!  Mind you, clearing a path through the wall is proving to be a problem. Angry
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« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2011, 09:55:53 AM +0100 »

ALL DRIVERS WILL HAVE FREE CHOICE OF CAR FOR THIS RACE!!

It does matter to me Hristo. I did read the rules before I signed up (did you?) and thought they had been agreed and it seems very strange whether I or anyone else likes dislikes agrees or disagrees with them that we are contemplating changing them a few days before the first race. Your right this particular modification has little or no bearing on me personally and I concur that handicapping seems unnecessary in the first race of a new season. I am merely seeking clarification now to avoid turning up on the night to find this and possibly other changes which might affect me or anyone else. I just like to know the rules before I start thats all.

You are right of cause Ronnie, only this time I change it because when Hristo raised the issue I begun thinking about the consequences and came to the conclusion that if a new/old fast driver joins the series he/she would have an advantage that was not fair. So the handicaps will be from the championship standings only and for the first race all have 0 points so no one will be handicapped.

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« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2011, 10:16:40 AM +0100 »

"This season drivers will be seeded and allocated a chassis group for the first race, this should prevent the first round being a virtual spec race."

Yes or no???


It's not like it matters to you, Ronnie. Regardless of whether we go this way or not, it's only me and Evil who were grouped, so you have free car choice anyway. Read the bottom of the first post.

It does matter to me Hristo. I did read the rules before I signed up (did you?) and thought they had been agreed and it seems very strange whether I or anyone else likes dislikes agrees or disagrees with them that we are contemplating changing them a few days before the first race. Your right this particular modification has little or no bearing on me personally and I concur that handicapping seems unnecessary in the first race of a new season. I am merely seeking clarification now to avoid turning up on the night to find this and possibly other changes which might affect me or anyone else. I just like to know the rules before I start thats all.

Haha, I just saw your reply. How does it matter to you what car me or Evil are allowed to take, given that all the rest of the drivers were already given free car choice? And what have the rules to do with that?  Roll Eyes

Even before I brought this up, the race thread clearly stated "group 1 Hristo, group 2 Evil, everyone else has FREE car choice".  Smiley
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« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2011, 12:02:41 PM +0100 »

Its not a big deal Hristo. No problem.
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« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2011, 04:28:56 AM +0100 »

Also, this track has the start/finish line in the braking zone for T1. So if you are certain you've nailed your lap, you can gain a few extra tenths by going banzai into T1 without braking. This is one of only two tracks that have this feature, the other being Bounty Beach.

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« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2011, 02:49:45 PM +0100 »

I've put up a practice server - it's biased towards practice so 30 mins practice 8 lap race.

Please let me know if you have any problems joining.
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« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2011, 02:52:41 PM +0100 »

My domain got blocked for no reason again, so I won't be able to make the track guide I planned for this one. Here's the lap I prepared though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9zQ_OvdQ1A

Here's also a ZIP file with the setup and replay:

http://www.lineage2universe.com/downloads/66_panchine_honda_setup_replay.zip
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« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2011, 04:57:26 PM +0100 »

Just back from few holiday days: does anybody has a fezza setup to post? angel
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