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May 03, 2011, 09:43:25 PM +0100 - Monaco (1929-71) - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Cookie
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 1 1:30.731
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1 40:27.497
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26 1:31.375
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Dunlop  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 11 +2.652
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2 +47.952
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26 1:32.997
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Dunlop  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 4 +0.997
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3 +54.401
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26 1:32.396
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Dunlop  
happyal
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 0 +2.314
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4 +1:09.703
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26 1:33.464
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Dunlop  
karlisss
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 2 +0.378
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5 (+5) +1:18.146
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26 1:31.186
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Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 10 +2.462
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6 +1L
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25 ---
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Goodyear  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +1.699
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7 +2.711
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25 1:32.240
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Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +1.946
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8 +10.011
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25 1:32.809
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Dunlop  
economia
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 14 +5.793
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9 +19.700
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25 1:33.485
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Dunlop  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 8 +2.304
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10 +1:03.634
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25 1:34.153
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Goodyear  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 13 +4.912
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11 +3L
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23 1:37.430
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Goodyear  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 5 +1.518
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12 (+1) +7L
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19 1:33.595
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Dunlop  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +0.743
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13 +9L
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17 1:31.347
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Dunlop  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 12 +4.512
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14 (+2) +10L
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16 1:34.140
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Dunlop  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 15 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 16 ---
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Dunlop  
5 UKGPL.65
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 17 ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

A debut for Monaco in the Novices, and a debut for several new UKGPL drivers.

The peace and quiet of Monaco lasted little more than a minute when the first slow corners heralded the first of several pile ups on this tight street circuit.

During this race there were a lot of warp related incidents as the server settings were not correct. There was also a re-occurence of the red tyres on Billy's car that we saw last season at Kyalami.

Because of this, there were a lot of reported incidents for near misses, small touches and odd car behaviour.

Where I have not mentioned a reported incident it has been put down to warp and will not be penalised. Where there is an incident where cars do touch, but may not have done had the server settings been correct, it has also been put down to warp and will not be penalised.

The server settings have now been changed and future races should be a lot more stable.

Only time will tell if the moderators will allow the Novices loose on such a tight circuit again.


Server replay time: 0h01m01s

Billy is dropped by the server and re-appears taking out Economia

Warp Incident

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h01m34s

Billy is warping badly and makes contact with Fabio at Mirabeau but it is warp affected and he had slowed down to avoid him.

Warp Incident

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h01m38s

Fabio tries to pass NHance on the inside of Virage De La Gare where there is no gap and the two make contact throwing NHance into the bales.

This follows the mayhem of a few seconds earlier and it is not clear whether it is an overtake attempt or not. Either way, Fabio is at fault and hits Norm, but I have mitigated the extra place penalty for a lap 1 incident in view of the confusion, mayhem and server mishaps.


Server replay time: 0h03m36s

NHance follows Billy through Virage De La Gare and taps him.
Both continue unaffected.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h03m40s

Karliss spins at tabac and is blocking the track.
He cannot see what is coming as he tries to get going again.
He should have moved forwards and to the right, away from the racing line, even taking a couple of short reverses if necessary.
Instead he moves forward and to the left which puts him on the racing line and heading towards oncoming traffic that cannot see him around a blind bend.
Jonny O slows to avoid him but cannot and is in turn hit by Blito.


Server replay time: 0h06m30s

Nigel nearly stops in time to avoid Fabio at Mirabeau, Fabio then rear ends Nigel at Virage De La Gare.

Fabio seems to lose control but makes no discernible contact.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h07m04s

Nigel Smith spins at the chicane.
Economia is following him and slows then takes avoiding action which sends him out of control and into Fabios path.
Nigel recovers and drives away but Fabio is out of control and ends up in front of him giving him nowhere to go.
Fabio can see the incident developing ahead of him as he exits the chicane but there are no yellow flags and he keeps accelerating until it is too late.
If Economia had not lost control Fabio may have got through cleanly but he should have taken more care approaching the incident.


Server replay time: 0h10m46s

Blito rear ends AlBaldwin under braking for Massenet. He had followed him for several laps leading up to the incident.
Al brakes marginally earlier than on the previous laps but only by a few feet.
Blito brakes later than on the previous laps and hits him.


Server replay time: 0h10m58s

BadBlood loses control at Gazometres and is warping badly as Economia tries to pass slowly but makes warp contact.

Warp Incident

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h14m35s

Martin is approaching Gazometres and sees no yellow flags to tell him that Fabio is blocking the track.
He tries to avoid him but has nowhere to go.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h17m27s

Jonny O is lapping BadBlood at Virage De La Gare and BadBlood spins.
The server shows no contact and the Honda's reaction suggests warp.

Warp Incident

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h18m05s

BadBlood had a novel way of letting Blito lap him.

I don't think it will catch on.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h20m28s

Norm loses control into Gazometres and is being hotly pursued by Karliss who also slides out of control. The 2 come to rest near the barrier and Karliss is able to continue but Norm also moves away and just touches him.

Both continue unaffected.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h36m11s

Billy is being followed into Gazometres by Karliss who is much later on the brakes, but Billy has won the corner easily.

Billy seems to take a wide line and Karliss tries to take advantage but there is not enough room and he has no overlap.

Karliss should have conceded the corner but touches Billy and spins him.


Server replay time: 0h38m28s

RogUK taps Billy going into Mirabeau and waits for him.
This causes some congestion and confusion in a tight part of the track and causes RogUK to collide with BadBlood at Virage De La Gare.

RogUK should have continued rather than wait on track for some people to pass but not others.

  • roguk (rog uk65)advice — Do not wait to give a place back after an incident

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« on: April 28, 2011, 06:18:22 PM +0100 »

UKGPL Season 21 65 Novices Trophy
Race 1 Monaco

Welcome to round 1 of a brand new season for the Novices.
Will Norm stop speed shifting and blowing engines?
Will Karliss keep his Australian speed?
Will Fabio win the penalty competition?
Will Vosblod still be in Novices?
All these questions answered, and more.

This is the first time that UKGPL have used Monaco in the Novices and depending on the race, it may be the last.
I would stress to people that Monaco in real life is a tight and twisty circuit where it is often impossible to pass unless the driver in front makes a mistake, and even then it is not always easy.
I would ask all drivers to be patient, to qualify as well as they can and to treat the circuit and their fellow competitors with the respect they deserve.

Please see the Novices registration thread for an explanation of the chassis allocations shown below as the permitted chassis you take here will be your chassis for the season:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9196.0

FULL TIME
DRIVER  
 CHASSIS  
Billy NoBrakes
1
Nigel Smith
1
Maddog
3
Il_Lupo
1
HappyAl
1
NHance
2
Norbert
1
Blito
1
Ronnie Peterson
3
RogUK
3
BadBlood
1
Francesco
1
Karliss
1
Cookie
1
DuFossa
2
Economia
1
JonnyO
1

RESERVE
DRIVER  
 CHASSIS  
Maestro
3
Bookie
1
Fragfritz
1
GTA66
1

Reserve drivers should not join the server until there are only 30 minutes of qualifying left so as to give the FULL TIME drivers chance to join, and drivers are not to go out on track until there are 30 minutes of qualifying left as this helps all drivers join the server successfully.

Please restrict chat to pit messages if necessary, and this includes the end of the race, until all running drivers have completed the necessary laps.

The Novice races are run under Int Long rules and all incidents will be moderated.
PLEASE NOTE THE RULE CHANGES FOR THIS SEASON REGARDING SHIFT-Rs
All resets must be followed by a Stop n Go regardless of blame for the incident which caused it.


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Server = UKGPL5
IP address = ping myjamesonline.net
Race date = 03/05/2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Monaco
Variant = 65F1
Damage Model = Int
Qualifying time = 35 minutes
Race length = 26 laps
Password: see above

65 Patch: The 2.02 Release of the 65mod can and should be used.
http://bit.ly/d8dECl

Driver lists can be found on the Novice Championship Page
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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2011, 08:32:25 AM +0100 »

I`m really looking forward to this... I've done some laps in the BT11 on four separate track and improved my PB by 1s/lap or more on each track.. so i`ll be racing the BT11 instead of the planned BRM.....
If I continue to improve like this i`ll have to start practising with the cooper Sad
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2011, 03:01:25 PM +0100 »

I know I'll miss this first race (drats) but I will be on hand for the next.  I am having an MRI and physician consultation for my lung cancer condition that day.  I hope the radiation and chemotherapy regime won't prevent me from participating in the season.
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2011, 03:46:38 PM +0100 »

Hope you are Ok Bookie _ treatment sounds nasty but I know from personal experience that chemo doesn't necessarily stop you racing. Good luck with it all
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2011, 05:06:18 PM +0100 »

All the best and see you at the Glen Bookie.
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2011, 05:20:42 PM +0100 »

Yes, I'm sure we all wish you the best possible outcome Bookie.

Just think positive and you'll probably win Monaco as well  Wink
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2011, 06:32:09 PM +0100 »

I'll echo the sentiments above and hope to see you back in Novices soon.

I remember those heady days when i used to lap you. Wink

I suspect you remember one of them when I almost took your nose off at Kyalami.  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2011, 06:36:51 PM +0100 »

Hope you get well soon Bookie.
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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2011, 08:59:07 PM +0100 »

 Get well soon Bookie.
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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2011, 09:38:37 PM +0100 »

All the best Bookie.
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« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2011, 10:26:00 PM +0100 »

Well - looks like I am back to embarrassing myself. I can't do better than 1:40 here. I am not sure where I am losing the time but Loews and the last hairpin are real problems. I am also having to slow mightily for the chicane - slow slow slow. Not looking forward to this at all. And where the hell do I let people past?
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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2011, 10:37:56 PM +0100 »

Well - looks like I am back to embarrassing myself. I can't do better than 1:40 here. I am not sure where I am losing the time but Loews and the last hairpin are real problems. I am also having to slow mightily for the chicane - slow slow slow. Not looking forward to this at all. And where the hell do I let people past?

Just keep going flat out at the chicane until you nail it. Once you do that, you'll know what it takes to do it again. Likewise for other corners, try carrying more speed through until you manage to do it without crashing. Unless you keep pushing over the limit you'll never know what's possible. Of course I mean that for practice runs. On race day it's the opposite. Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2011, 10:43:42 PM +0100 »

I'm certainly crashing a lot  laugh
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2011, 09:25:07 AM +0100 »

Not looking forward to this at all. And where the hell do I let people past?

Just drive the normal racing line , let those who want to pass decide where to do so  Smiley

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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2011, 06:44:52 PM +0100 »

I'm not sure there is a normal driving line for me  laugh
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