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May 24, 2011, 10:42:22 PM +0100 - Monsanto Park - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Historic (66)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
McLaren M2B (Ford) F1 1966 1 1:51.818
108.848mph
1 49:05.407
107.438mph
26 1:52.091
108.582mph
Firestone  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 7 +4.211
104.897mph
2 +1L
102.845mph
25 1:55.359
105.506mph
Goodyear  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
BRM P83 F1 1966 5 +3.259
105.765mph
3 +35.928
101.611mph
25 1:56.458
104.511mph
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 11 +8.756
100.943mph
4 +1:13.005
100.368mph
25 1:58.246
102.930mph
Firestone  
Raoni Frizzo
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 3 +2.138
106.805mph
5 +10L
104.846mph
16 1:53.502
107.233mph
Disco
Goodyear  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 6 +3.861
105.215mph
6 (+3) +12L
104.606mph
14 1:53.215
107.504mph
Disco
Goodyear  
s2173
 
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 9 +7.318
102.162mph
7 +17L
100.061mph
9 1:59.539
101.817mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Ronniepeterson
 
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 8 +6.344
103.004mph
8 +0.441
100.020mph
9 1:58.792
102.457mph
Disco
Firestone  
ivandjj
 
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 10 +8.534
101.129mph
9 +5.853
99.529mph
9 1:59.366
101.965mph
accident
Goodyear  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 4 +3.151
105.864mph
10 +20L
102.263mph
6 1:57.462
103.617mph
unknown
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA273 F1 1966 15 +19.060
92.996mph
11 +22L
83.938mph
4 2:12.151
92.100mph
Disco
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA273 F1 1966 2 +0.868
108.009mph
12 +26L
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0 ---
---
Disco
Goodyear  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
Cooper T81 (Maserati) F1 1966 12 +8.861
100.855mph
13
---
0 ---
---
Disco
Firestone  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 13 +13.665
96.994mph
14 DNS ---
---
Firestone  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
BRM P83 F1 1966 15 ---
---
Goodyear  
jhalli
 
BRM P83 F1 1966 14 +15.981
95.236mph
16 ---
---
Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
BRM P83 F1 1966 16 17 ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

Monsanto is a challenging course with several tricky corners that follow long straights with
some complexes that demand patience and concentration. A few of the drivers were patient but not
all.

Yet another qualifying session dominated by the Bulgarian McRae. Evil has pushed him close
though and there is a spread of times to the rear of the field where Badblood is set so far back
that he can't see the corner, let alone the flag! This is surely punishment for nearly being
lapped in qualifying by Hristo!
At the start everyone gets away cleanly but nobody gets away better than Mr Muttram. With cold
tyres and an early corner the field compacts nicely and battles are joined up and down the grid.
Well, except for lonely Badblood of course.
Evil nearly gets H but it is not to be and Mr Muttram starts putting some pressure on the Dark
one...

Further back, Phil spins on his still frosty tyres. Ivan zooms past but before Paul can get
theres (whilst carefully observing the local speed limit) Jason helpfully knocks Phil round and
pushes him across the track to avoid the speedy Blood. Blito then parks up to watch his front
left wheel make valiant efforts at continuing the lap. Jason out.
More excitement ahead as up the road Evil lives up to his name and puts in some wicked braking
for the Riding School. Tim doesn't see it as so fearsome. As Clive slows, Tim sadly doesn't,
however, aptly, he mounts up... all over Evil's exhaust pipes. Tim has put the Honda in its
place (which is out) with a huge rear end shunt. One upside down Clive and a rolling Tim.
Amazingly the "Full Metal Gasket" protects Mr Muttram as he rolls twice and he drives on without
a stain on his character, ahem!

Tim has started in sixth but makes a great start (which is bad news for Evil, as we have seen).
His 'incident' costs him a place or two and he gets the foot down to recover well and finish the
lap in.....sixth place. Mind you, he is charging now and he takes Ronnie P on the S/F straight
by taking to the grass. At the end of the straight Fulvio is dispatched.
Fulvio had made a poorish start but had caught Goran to get a place back. Tim's troubles had
promoted him but he takes to the banking and lets Tim through. This banking will prove hard for
many drivers.

Phil continues his exciting lap with a few spins and finishes lap 1 dead last but not dead! Phil
settles down to an unexciting race just cranking out the sub 2-min laps (well, mostly). He
suffers the indignity of following Badblood for more than a lap but BB parks up sideways and
lets Phil through. At least thats how BB sees it! BB's race is nearly done, at Clover Leaf he
decides to back into somebody's driveways and finds a wall to demolish.
Maddog has made a good start and passes Raoni early and takes advantage of Evil's misfortune to
take second place. Raoni is battling back though, the pressure tells and he nips back into
second. Martin now third with a fast gaining FMG behind.
Martin is not a fan of the Riding School and he gets it wrong under braking, loses it, catches
it, loses it. End up facing the wrong way but Tim, gentleman that he is, nudges him round. Down
to fourth. Martin settles in behind and pushes Tim for the next few laps until Tim makes a small
mistake at the unnamed kink at the end of the first long straight. This is the same corner that
caught Fulvio out letting Tim gain a place. Poetic justice? We shall name this turn Heartbreak
Ridge. Martin is through but he hasn't learnt his lesson and stops for a mouthful of hay at
Riding School. As Martin is kept behind for lines his race is run.

Tim can now concentrate on catching Raoni. Senhor Frizzo has built a lead calmly but on lap 15
he has an exciting time all by himself. The Heartbreak Ridge at the end of the long straight
causes him some problems and he takes to the banking with no obvious ill effect. Lap 16 and
there is a repeat, but again a trip through a sapling or two is not a problem. Has the handling
taken a knock? Hard to tell. On lap 17 Clover Leaf is almost his undoing but he gets going
again. Not for long... Heartbreak Ridge catches him out and a spin is terminal this time.
Will Tim inherit second?
No.
Clearly lap 15 had something about it because FMG also finds Heartbreak Ridge unmanageable
and takes to the air off the bank. Race over.

We have hardly had time for the midfield
What of Goran, Ronnie, Ivan and Sky? They have all had their moments and GJ's mistake at
Heartbreak lets both Fulvio and Ronnie through. Sky then gets good traction out of windmill to
sneak past the Swede. Ronnie wastes his efforts at Windmill with a spin and lets Goran back
past. Ivan is in close attendance and takes a place. These four will race in close attendance
for several laps. Sky leading Goran with Ivan and Ronnie behind. Ronnie gets his place back at
the last turn on Lap 3 and that is how it stays until lap 8 when Sky makes a bit of a mess of
Clover Leaf. Goran is through.

Lap 10 - Sky leads Ronnie into Clover Leaf and spins, Ronnie is regretting not giving Sky more
room when he is launched on to the hay bales. Ivan does a bit of rubbernecking and forgets that
there is a left hander to negotiate. Either that or he fancies a picnic with the camper vans.
End of race for all three. Ronnie is aloft, Ivan has three wheels and Sky?
He has recovered but managed to drive himself into a hay bale. Not the best donut ever.
What is this? He has got away somehow... amazing. H passes and Sky battles on.
But only until Windmill. The handling has let him down and this time the hay wins.

So. H is miles away up front, steady Fulvio is second and Goran is third. Mr Thornton comes
chugging round in fourth.
And he is my driver of the day for maximising what he had. Even if Jason won't be too pleased.

I don't think Silverstone will be quite as incident packed.

Paul "Badblood" Whitfield


Server replay time: 0h02m10s

Tim is following Evil towards the "riding school" left hander and when Evil brakes for the turn Tim is too close and do not brake in time but hits Evil from behind.

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Grand Prix Legends
F1 1966
1:52.091
108.535mph
Hristo Itchov
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« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2011, 09:19:42 AM +0100 »

Utter rubbish from me tonight  Embarrassed

Massive appologie for the contact Clive, you braked even earlier than I anticipated and I had no way of slowing enough or even swerving due to the crest  Sad
I expect heavy modding when I get back next week as it was totally my fault....

(Maybe it's a good thing I'm leaving the country for a bit! ninja )

Oh!! it was you, was it!!?? Roll Eyes  lol I did wonder who had taken me roughly from behind Shocked

I probably did brake a little cautiously as my practice for this race had showed that my setup did not handle well for the first 2-3 laps until the tyre temps came up to racing levels and around here there were too many places to lose a wheel.

I was genuinely surprised to be second on the grid. ( not surprised to be behind Hristo). I was slightlycautious off the grid trying not to make contact with my team mate, intending to allow Hristo to rush off in to the distance.

The honda was very heavy and slippery on cold tyres and I was trying to be very smooth and safe for the 1st lap.....but
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« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2011, 01:01:19 PM +0100 »

It was good to finally race, on a track I missed out on, last Season.  There are tracks to challenge even the best of us, and this is one of them! Kiss

I found some space in practice, and followed Hristo around to nab a PB, for a 4th on the grid.  Couldn't remember how many finished last time, but it seemed caution would be best.  Except I found myself quickly up to 2nd, and with an angry Brabham on my tail, though I'd no idea why?  So I flailed.  It showed some skill from Frizzo, not to catch clobberitis, during my vain attempt to stay ahead.  He was a lot faster.

Next up was Tim, and this time my desire to stay ahead, needed more than a hint.  So, put my car sideways across the track.  Amazingly, a flick of his finger, and the Braby was pointing the right way again, but some car lengths behind him?  Methinks there's more to learn about this racing lark!

I was settling down to a race pace, when FMG gave me a second chance to delay him.  A touch too much reverence on my part perhaps, as I left him an opening, by way of flailing wide into a bale.  Rather than giving me the finger, the bale grabbed me with both hands, and I was finished. Sad
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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2011, 01:42:38 PM +0100 »

I love your reports Mr Maddog, I so envy your grasp of the english language.. Cool
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« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2011, 01:52:21 PM +0100 »

I love your reports Mr Maddog, I so envy your grasp of the english language.. Cool

I second that.  Grin

My race was a good one (for a change), without any big mistakes on my part and without feeling impatient as usual, so I could let the concentration sink in and let my subconsciousness drive the car most of the time while my mind was occupied with other things, interrupted from time to time to check on engine's oil temp and the pit board.  Roll Eyes

Evil looked set to follow close at the start and even mount a challenge, considering the strength of slipstream in these 66s, but unfortunately former Waza took care of him and opened up a void in my mirrors which is never good for my motivation. The car handled well though, the track flowed nicely and the race felt shorter as a result. My only worry was seeing all those retirement messages and that it could enforce a rerun if screen freeze was proven to be the cause for most of them, but seems that's not the case.

Evil, you clearly have the pace for at least 2nd place or higher this season, but some bad luck there... hope it changes around soon!
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« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2011, 02:18:15 PM +0100 »

. . . I so envy your grasp of the english language.. Cool
Maybe so, but when it comes with a greater grasp of the scenery, I ain't too 'appy! Wink
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« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2011, 03:38:38 PM +0100 »

Sorry bout the crash, ronnie...couldnt do anything about it, you were on my tail... was running pretty good before that, idk where that spin came from. Some bottom out at t1 or something...my setup was too low i think.

No problem these things happen when you are racing. You were unlucky because you were racing well and deserved a good finish. Better luck next time.
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« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2011, 10:33:30 PM +0100 »

Sorry bout the crash, ronnie...couldnt do anything about it, you were on my tail... was running pretty good before that, idk where that spin came from. Some bottom out at t1 or something...my setup was too low i think.

No problem these things happen when you are racing. You were unlucky because you were racing well and deserved a good finish. Better luck next time.

I was delighted with qualy since it seemed that i wasn't warping. By the end of qualy i sort of knew which way the track went but not where to push and where not. Prolly still dont know Roll Eyes

Starting slowly and carefully paid off, as Phil spun in front of me, but i could just squeeze by in one piece. Ronnie went by few laps later, but it seemed that i could just about hang on. After some close calls with Ronnie and some with only myself, decided to let Ronnie go and try to finish. That was great decision, but thinking that VW van could be driven thru wasn't.

When i came on the scene Ronnie was riding a strawbale on the inside, spun s.' braby was facing me in the middle, so i went on the grass, thru some gendarmes and right bang in the unfortunately solid VW van. Ripped a wheel off, game over. If i knew it was solid object, i could've possibly avoided it. For succesful life, always assume the worst.

Anyway, im very appy that my connection is now working. Not appy with solid VW, but thats part of racing at Monsanto 

I liked the track very much and didn't find it difficult. Westwood was slow torture in comparison. And i liked patched 66 braby very much. Hopefully i'll appear at some more 66 races. Best mod by far, imo.

Did anyone notice me warping? Ronnie? 
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« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2011, 04:42:51 PM +0100 »

Did anyone notice me warping? Ronnie? 

If you were warping I did not notice. Tough break losing a wheel. If I was not stuck on top of a strawbale I would have popped down to help you fit the spare! Better luck next time.
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« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2011, 10:49:24 PM +0100 »

The moderators report is published including a new "must read" from Paul "Badblood" Withfield.

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« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2011, 11:07:48 PM +0100 »

The moderators report is published including a new "must read" from Paul "Badblood" Withfield.

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Great read, Paul! Goran, you say Tim is penalized, but it doesn't seem reflected in the result (no red numbers and stuff).
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« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2011, 11:10:26 PM +0100 »

Great read, Paul! Goran, you say Tim is penalized, but it doesn't seem reflected in the result (no red numbers and stuff).
Just fixed that.

Just to clarify why Tim still retains 25 points for 6th despite the 3 place drop; the new 50% cut-off means anyone below this threshold is not counted into the race results. Hence Tim cannot drop to 9th if there are only six drivers ie there aren't any places for him to drop.

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« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2011, 08:23:07 AM +0100 »

Interesting and informative report. But i'm still confused with, a) who is which Blo(o)d, and b) how many different Blo(o)ds are there  blink

Generally, this nick system is, well just taz . I mean, going wheel to wheel with Ronnie Peterson and Arf Arf Arf  scared LOL
 

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« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2011, 09:05:12 AM +0100 »

Great read, Paul!

Thanks H. You'd get more of a mention if you had more exciting races!

Ivan. To clear up this whole bloody business - Tim (Vosblod) was the chief when I joined and I originally named myself Badblood as a bit of a joke - joke was on me though because I had read his name as 'Vosblood'. D'uh.

Once I had the name I stuck with it and then came across another driver Sam Blood. So my clever little pun didn't quite work out how I expected but I answer to Badblood, BB, Paul, 'Oy you' or pretty much anything else...

Hope drivers are enjoying the race report. Feedback is always welcome: Too much/little detail. Too much/little humour. Like/Don't like. etc etc

It takes ages to do and I have to watch every lap of every driver so crashing out early helps (Thanks Clive, Jason). Not starting is even better (Cheers Juha). It does make me laugh though some of the antics you guys get up to. I am also amazed at some of the skill on show and it is instructive to see how different drivers can take totally different lines and yet have times that are so close. If you want a laugh though, watch Sky, Ronnie and Ivan at Clover Leaf on lap 10 and witness Sky's amazing persistence in the face of a gap too small for the car!
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« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2011, 12:10:33 PM +0100 »

If you want a laugh though, watch Sky, Ronnie and Ivan at Clover Leaf on lap 10 and witness Sky's amazing persistence in the face of a gap too small for the car!

I'm still laughing now at that idiot Ronnie who rather than bide his time until the straight had to get up close and personal at the bend with Sky. Poor Ivan never stood a chance and to cap it all Sky ends up the lone survivor through sheer persistence in the face of the impossible!

Great report Paul, still hope to see you on track mate.
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« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2011, 12:42:18 PM +0100 »

Hope so. It was funny.
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