UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65) - Aintree - May 31

[BadBlood]

1:51 is not a slow average laptime. It is fast and consistent and you will get many more wins with consistency like that. Well done.

I think I wiped you out on one qually lap, lost it at T3 iirc. Sorry about that but I was on a hot one myself.

Congratulations again, you have come a long way and we will miss you when you move up to the Pros

[Cookie]

Great race for me with unbeatable Karliss in front of me, GRATZ!

In Quali I wasn't really concentrated after the hassle with IGOR...
But 3rd was a good position to start

Managed a good start and could follow Karliss a while, but soon got aware he has stronger engine!
Allways came nearer in corners but lost more on straights. The guys behind were far behind and I did no mistake....

Towards the end I had to pass Paul and Billy with no problems.
BUT then I closed up to Fran, who seems to be blind on blue colors!
Fought me 2 laps and when I passed him at turn 4 he bumped me out... 
I was filled with anger and adrenaline and so I spinned in the next corner again.

This brought JohnnyO to my back so I put all my strength together to keep my second place over the SF-line 

Axel

[happyal]

Well done Karlisss, I think we all could see a win coming. Well done, and I'm sure it's the first of many.

Sham I missed this one.

[BadBlood]

Towards the end I had to pass Paul and Billy with no problems.

Definitely not me mate. This confusion is catching... (btw it was Fabio I was chasing - still expect Jason to be in the ketchup wagon). I disco'ed after 4.5 laps

I think it was whizzy Nigel.

[NHance]

Well done the podium drivers & particularly Karliss. The transformation from midfield to front runner has been meteoric.
Embarassed by my outburst after W/Glen I made up my mind the day after to start this race from the back of the grid. That way I wouldn't be responsible for any lap1 turmoil & hopefully if there was any I would pick my way through it. Did only one lap to register I was here & sat watching rest of qually which was difficult but I stuck to my promise.
After the smoke cleared(literally) from the turn 1 incident it was shiftR. Thought it didn't do this unless the track was clear but I was immediatly hit again from behind. Took the S&G. I had a good pace here (5th fastest lap of the entire night) & by lap 5 I had caught & passed Bad Blood & by lap 7 Pete Maestro also. By lap 12 I was threatening Norbert & he spun & I clipped him. He did a full 360 & proceeded but I was the wrong way & Fossa passed us both. Lap 14 I was back on Norbert's case & had a real chance to pass on lap 16. He gave me room but I just couldn't put the power on & I spun later in the lap. A small off later but as we went into the final corner of the race I was right behind Norbert again.
I know you wouldn't call 11th a good result but I count this as one of my better drives as I really kept my discipline with only the one spin & a couple of minor offs & made two clean passes when I am not usually that good at "racing". Thanks to Paul, Pete & Norbert for a clean race. I enjoyed it.
Looks like I will miss Silverstone but should be at Albi but I won't have had much practice
Norm H
 

[BadBlood]

I was really looking forward to my battle with Norm before my disco and he was very generous in terms of leaving me space. Look forward to a battle at Albi.

[maddog]

I was forced to limp through this one, but at least it was a high speed limp.  My much used wheel expired at the weekend, or was it the weak end, and I switched to the backup, which isn't something I looked forward to?  Hoofing it around Aintree, with an overdose of force feedback, and imitation pedals, is not ideal.  And with such a competitive field, I was lucky to start mid-grid.

Once under way, we bunched up towards the first right hander, at which point, several competitors started dancing about the countryside.  A simple collision had turned into a scene from Star Trek - "Beam me up Scotty, and warp factor 7!"  I was invisibly guided into the barriers, but continued after a quick 360, into a brief squabble with a Nigel, and a Fabio.  I emerged, a surprised 3rd overall.

With the leaders long gone, I had only Irishman Jonny'O, closing.  It required just one mistake to let him through, so I obliged.  It was then just a matter of pounding out the laps, to the finish line, which I did at the gallop.

Jonny'O - good race!  Your practice laps are fast, but your race starts are slow. You will make trouble for everyone, until you can fix this.

Bravo Karliss - you have discovered the best way to avoid trouble with other drivers, is to stay ahead of them!  I must try that sometime.  

[francesco]

My apologies to Cookie .I was all on the left,thinking that this was enough to give you track but was not so.The problem is also due to the lack of side view (in any game) and also to main only advantage:the breaking.If i look any race with the replay analizer only during the brake a gain something against other .I have not slowed my speed ,becouse i was after an overtaking.
I hope to not have infuenced your final position.

[il_lupo_mannaro]

I just learnt the track on the 30' of qualify: I just tried first just half an hour before the race, only to find that the default setup is really bad...
In the chat nobody has a reliable setup to share so I start the qualify with a setup from another english track...
I ran few laps with few fuel on tank then I filled up to race tank, but, unfortunately, I didn't calculated the right quantity.
Set a mid/back field time, at the green flag I discovered that first gear was sooo good for a rocket start and, also because of the disaster after the first turn, I found myself on 4th place!!
Then I lost place by place during the race but it was fine until it lasted: I remember some good fun chasing Martin, then Jason and last but not least Nigel, that also set the FL!!
I wrote that I didn't calculate the right fuel quantity: I raced the last lap with a coughing engine that mute itself after last turn: luckily the finish line is not so far from the turn so I kept my 9th final place only with 4/10 in front of Norbert!!
Great fun indeed.
Grats to the winner, the podium, everybody raced an to the race organization!
Long Live UKGPL!

[blito]

Ran out of fuel? LOL I went the other way and 5 gallons left at the end!!!

[karlisss]

Bravo Karliss - you have discovered the best way to avoid trouble with other drivers, is to stay ahead of them!  I must try that sometime.  

indeed. i figured this out before last season's Adelaide race, but i must say its quite difficult way how to avoid errors
anyway it does not make me bether in close racing, but i prefer  this one as long i will be able

[Cookie]

Bravo Karliss - you have discovered the best way to avoid trouble with other drivers, is to stay ahead of them!  I must try that sometime.  

Sorry Martin, I can't fully agree...

This works only until you have to pass backmarkers that are blind on blue flags

[Hristo Itchov]

Bravo Karliss - you have discovered the best way to avoid trouble with other drivers, is to stay ahead of them!  I must try that sometime.  

Sorry Martin, I can't fully agree...

This works only until you have to pass backmarkers that are blind on blue flags

Going through backmarkers is often a lottery, passing skills or not.

[karlisss]

actualy with backmarkers things is not so difficult.
in other leagues where i raced, we discussed before next race, where is a safest places on tracks, or sometimes one place, where backmarker can let you pass without risk for himself.
backmarkers dont race so low because they have joy of ruining others race, but shit happens (especialy for me when i get laped)
that you see a pasing car far behind in mirror, and you have idea where to let him pass without ruining your race. But problem is, laping car wants lap you earlier, in place where you can cause accident, because you dont know how to react fast and how to control car in that place when you out of rutine trajectory. Also i dont think that backmarker must lowdown car for 50% on short stright as soon he see blue flag.
so in silvestone i think are two main straights where backmarker can easy let you pass without loosing race for himself. And fast car i believe can do half a lap 2sec slower.
(oh man, i must remember that !!)

[Hristo Itchov]

I don't approve that passing backmarkers should happen only in pre-designated spots. It's all down to common sense and awareness, not trained behaviour. You just treat each situation separately and do your best.

What I hate the most when passing backmarkers is when they see me in their mirrors and initiate a move first, especially on a straight or before a corner, and especially if the move is done when I've already committed to overtake them. It ends up with me taking evasive action and the backmarker losing unnecessary amount of time, at least.

It's almost like some people, when they see a faster car in their mirror (or Pribluda, which is worse) approaching, they act as if they're afraid the car behind is going to hit them if they don't slow down and move off the line. They're afraid of having a car following them close and if that happens, they often panic and make mistakes. Some of it is down to lack of experience, but I think there's a lot more to it.