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June 12, 2011, 09:56:24 PM +0100 - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
jhalli
 Grey GT
Chaparral Mk2D GT 1967 2 +0.648
117.378mph
1 52:39.457
113.403mph
34 1:30.651
116.248mph
Firestone  
FullMetalGasket
 Orange GT
Chaparral Mk2D GT 1967 3 +0.897
117.053mph
2 +1.902
113.335mph
34 1:30.564
116.360mph
Firestone  
Hristo Itchov
 Red GT
Chaparral Mk2F GT 1967 1 1:29.131
118.231mph
3 +43.325
111.869mph
34 1:29.957
117.145mph
Firestone  
Samb
 Blue GT
Chaparral Mk2F GT 1967 4 +1.465
116.319mph
4 +43.850
111.851mph
34 1:32.264
114.216mph
Firestone  
Dave Randall
 Orange GT
Ferrari 330/P4 GT 1967 8 +3.218
114.111mph
5 +1:23.117
110.497mph
34 1:32.548
113.866mph
Firestone  
fpolicardi
 Blue GT
Mirage M1 GT 1967 16 +11.514
104.705mph
6 +1L
107.598mph
33 1:34.397
111.635mph
Firestone  
EvilClive
 Red GT
Mirage M1 GT 1967 6 +2.682
114.777mph
7 +5.117
107.428mph
33 1:32.992
113.322mph
Firestone  
Phil Thornton
 Green GT
Chaparral Mk2F GT 1967 7 +2.959
114.432mph
8 +12.305
107.190mph
33 1:33.838
112.300mph
Firestone  
blito
 Green GT
Mirage M1 GT 1967 12 +6.811
109.838mph
9 +2L
106.598mph
32 1:36.055
109.708mph
Firestone  
b_1_rd
 Grey GT
Ford GT40 MkI GT 1967 11 +6.334
110.386mph
10 +31.563
105.545mph
32 1:36.041
109.724mph
Goodyear  
happyal
 Blue GT
Lola T70 MkIII GT 1967 10 +5.994
110.781mph
11 +48.033
105.004mph
32 1:35.587
110.246mph
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 Red GT
Porsche 910 GT 1967 13 +7.288
109.294mph
12 +3L
103.040mph
31 1:37.770
107.784mph
Dunlop  
Geoff65
 Grey GT
Mirage M1 GT 1967 14 +7.615
108.925mph
13 +15.047
102.553mph
31 1:36.497
109.206mph
Firestone  
s2173
 Pink GT
Ford GT40 MkIIB GT 1967 15 +9.039
107.345mph
14 +31.473
102.027mph
31 1:37.717
107.842mph
Goodyear  
Cookie
 Green GT
Ferrari 330/P4 GT 1967 5 +2.548
114.945mph
15 +17L
105.349mph
17 1:32.853
113.492mph
Disco
Firestone  
vosblod
 Pink GT
Ferrari 330/P4 GT 1967 9 +3.621
113.615mph
16 +30L
99.172mph
4 1:35.611
110.218mph
Disco
Firestone  
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

No reported incidents for this race. It looks like everyone ( or almost everyone ......see below) is behaving themselves.

A couple of incidents at the start were brought to my attention by the start line monitor ( Whitfield P. Snr, not to be confused with Whitfield J. Jnr).
There was some pillock in a Mirage that made an absolutely stunning start, enabling him to make a sizeable dent in the back of Sambs Chap 2F tank and an even larger modification to the lightweight aluminium body of his Mirage!! Just a shame that it was the beginning of the rolling lap!!??
Sky made a sneaky move from the staggered grid on the rolling lap and cunningly eased his GT40 in front of our Antipodean visitor Geoff Heard. If he had allowed Geoff to re-take his correct place on the rolling lap that would have been OK...but he didn't! As Sky managed to end his race prematurely there is no penalty that can be applied that will make any difference....but we are watching!!!!

Hristo tried an alternative line through Woodcote as the lead car at the end of the warm up lap and gets the award for the only driver to have crashed his car before the race started!!
Later in the race, after matching the number of wheels on his 2F to the number of sprockets in his gearbox, Hristo performed what can only be described as a very marginal 10 second pitstop. I have reviewed it several times and tried to decide if he was actually staionary for the full 10 seconds. I am sure that it was more than 9, but was it a full 10??!!. In this instance I am going to call it a warp ( time warp?) affected stop. But WE are watching and counting..

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GT 1967
1:29.131
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Hristo Itchov
Qualifying
Chaparral Mk2FJune 12, 2011, 09:56:24 PM +0100
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1:29.957
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Hristo Itchov
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Chaparral Mk2FJune 12, 2011, 09:56:24 PM +0100
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« on: June 07, 2011, 09:53:45 AM +0100 »

So from Kent to Northamptonshire and another track we know well. Silverstone. This track was the first to hold a modern F1 GP as we know it and has always been regarded as one of the fastest venues on the calendar. A converted airfield, you can still see the runways (although you can't drive down them, I know, I've tried). With the disparity in power available, an exciting race is in prospect.

You all know the difficulties with the poor rear view in these cars so please be aware that the car in front maybe cannot see you and does not know you are there. Particularly on the first racing lap!

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = Sunday June 12th
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Silverstone (GP 1952-73) [Papy original track]
Race length = approx 50 minutes (34 laps)
Variant = GT mod
Damage Model = Intermediate (see rules below re resets)
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Password: see above
Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page

There will be rolling starts for all races with full moderation of both the warm-up and first lap.

Guidelines for rolling starts...

The car on pole will lead off the grid and maintain a steady pace for the 1st lap around 175kph
All drivers should form up in single file behind him leaving 3-4 car lengths between each car.
There is NO OVERTAKING on the 1st lap until the exit of the last corner.
It is the reponsibility of the lead car to ensure that all drivers are with him as he approaches the final corner.
Racing and overtaking begin AFTER the exit of the last corner, so you may overtake between the exit of the last corner and the S/F line.

Any driver who loses his position on the rolling lap, by going off, blowing his engine or through contact with another car ( regardless of fault) must rejoin at the back of the field.
Incidents on the rolling lap ( Lap 1) will be fully modded and anyone found to have caused another competitor to lose position through bad driving will be penalised appropriately.
Also, please make sure that you know which car you should be following on the rolling lap, so that you do NOT get out of position.

The teams have been chosen and the cars are polished and ready to go.

TEAMS

RED TEAM          HRISTO ITCHOV,  Evilclive, Paul Badblood  
 Chap 2F / Mirage / Porsche
                                                                
BLUE TEAM        SAMB, Fulvio, Happy Al  
Chap 2F/ Lola/ Mirage

GREEN TEAM     ZACHARIA BLITO, Phil Thornton, Axel Cookie
Chapp 2F/ Ferrari P4 / Mirage

ORANGE TEAM        NIGEL SMITH, Tim FMG,Dave RAndall  
Ferrari P4 / Chapp 2D / Ford GT MK2.

GREY TEAM     Captained by Tim Vosblod who is looking after the part time drivers who cannot be sure to attend every race.

The cars for the Grey team for this season will be
Chapperal 2D
Mirage
Ford GT40 MK1

a NEW pink team HAS BEEN FORMED TO ACCOMODATE A FEW MORE OF THE TEMPORARY DRIVERS IN THIS SERIES

The Cars for the Pink Team are
Ferrari
Mk2 GT40
Porsche


All drivers must drive all 3 team cars at least 3 times. At the end of the 10 race championship any TEAM found to be in breach of this rule will have its BEST TEAM points result of the season cancelled. Each driver will drop his worst 2 results, in line with the other championships, this gets over the problem of missed races and 2 man teams looking for a sub at the last minute.

The events will be run on Intermediate damage and allow ONE Shift-R with a compulsory 10 second pit stop regardless of fault. (This means 10 seconds in your pitbox without moving). Any driver who fails to take a 10 second stop within 1 lap after a Shift-R, will be disqualified from the results. For this division the full moderation of lap one now applying across all divisions will include both the warm up lap and lap one proper.

Please check the Season 21 pages for details regarding rules and the GT Team Challenge pages in particular.
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2011, 03:01:37 PM +0100 »

T7 server is ready set for 34 laps Int Long race listening on Igor.
Also GPG_8 server is ready as backup server.
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2011, 10:20:18 PM +0100 »

Interesting race. Hadn't planned to make it as the greys were a full house but got home early so went into chat. Clive hastilly pulled the pink team out of the bag so took the Fezza.
Luckily I remembered we had a no overtaking warm-up lap but found it tricky, seemed to be a lot more stop start compared to a standing kick-off. One minute we were crawling down a straight in third then it was full throttle.

Anyway a few laps in something blue went to pass me unexpectedly last minute into a corner so tried to stay as far out as possible to be safe but it was not to be. A reset and remembered I had to take a 10 second stopper in the pits.
Would you believe it, having done umpteen laps of Silverstone in the past, I turned in at the wrong spot and found myself on the wrong side of an armco. That was it really, no poiint continuing a race on the inside of the airfield.

Was fun while it lasted...
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2011, 10:49:20 PM +0100 »

Apologies Tim ..that was me  Undecided  You kind of caught me out on the brakes, so I went inside to avoid any contact...looks like it did not work. Tried to keep it tight but not entirely sure that I did.  Have not looked at replay to see if it was my fault, but I am expecting the moderator to come down hard on me :'(
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2011, 10:55:07 PM +0100 »

LOL Clive - you also scared the hell outta me when you passed me late in the race.. thanks to my crappy Mirrors I actually thought you were trying the outside line... I really had no idea where you where, hence my " Tippy toes" round the middle line at woodcote.... I lost a little time and a place to my Team-mate Uncle Phil but otherwise no harm done...
On the whole, that was an excellent (and clean!) race... I had some great battles all race long ( was really sorry to see Alistairs Lola break it engine).. I was lapped a few times (remembering Hristo's request for backmarkers not to make sudden moves when being lapped) and lapped a few others (praying they too listened to H's request)..
All in all, a great race..
Well done to everyone... 14 finishers is quite an achievement I think!
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2011, 11:12:02 PM +0100 »

Apologies Tim ..that was me  Undecided  
Ahh it must be my Mr Pink vs Mr Red complex Grin
Not sure I can report our Senior Consultant as there is no one left to appeal to Wink
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2011, 11:18:53 PM +0100 »

What's with Clark-Hill Racing scoring 7 points?  Shocked
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2011, 11:20:24 PM +0100 »

What's with Clark-Hill Racing scoring 7 points?  Shocked
I'm sure it will get fixed by them upstairs, they are probably still finding the Pinky team Cheesy
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2011, 12:41:39 AM +0100 »

Clark-Hill - Pink and fluffy. What's the difference?  laugh

All fixed.

REALLY enjoyed this race. Probably my best ever, not for blinding speed, my race laps were the slowest of anyone but for consistency and getting to have a race. At first I was holding Geoff off and then I made a mistake at the second last (Abbey) and he zoomed past with the extra Ford horsepower down to Woodcote. I followed and a couple of laps later he span at Stowe. I thought I could avoid him by going tight but then his car drifted inwards and I couldn't adjust. So I just smacked him hard head on. Sorry mate.

On I went and Geoff and Sky were hunting me down until I too made a mistake at Stowe and brushed the wall, initially thought I had got away with it but lost it again and got hit... hard. Not sure if it was Geoff or Sky. I think the luckless Aussie lost out again and I was left pursuing Sky. We had a good battle with a few mistakes complicated by the people unkindly lapping us. H and Tim gave me a bit of a fright and I brushed Tim at one point after letting Juha through. Sorry about that. He was ok though.

Got Sky after lots of laps chasing and gaining time after Stowe and losing it before... but he finally made one mistake too many and the position was mine. I was knackered though and I started getting very conservative. Too conservative. Lost it at Stowe again and just about got away with my place intact. Sky must have had some problem because he disappeared and I coasted home. Got a bit of a new fright when Geoff popped up behind me in Prib but I had seven hundred yards and only two laps. Even I can manage that.

Great fun. Thanks to Geoff and Sky for some fun racing and sorry about the biffs Geoff. Have to let Clive sort those out Sad
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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2011, 08:45:56 AM +0100 »

"hard. Not sure if it was Geoff or Sky."

It wasa neither of them......................... Roll Eyes but the doc says the bruises will soon disappear.
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2011, 11:24:48 AM +0100 »

I had fun this race, I think this is turning into a great fun series.

My race was pretty normal for me. In qualifying I didn’t get any were near my best times in practice, but I didn’t push because the cars in front were so far ahead it wouldn’t of put me in a better grid slot.

The race was going well for me, I was driving within myself and not making too many mistakes. I was holding a few cars off, and was quite happy. I knew that the Lola was a bit more delicate than the Mirage that I drove last season, so I was taking care of it. It didn’t help me as I did blow the engine. This released Jason, Phil and Steve.

I wasn’t really fast enough to catch them back up, but I noticed that Steve did a pit stop at the same time I did. I left the pits just in front of Steve, and tried to settle back into a rhythm, which I found hard going, on full tanks and cold tyres, at the same time trying to be extra careful with down shifts. On the next lap I was hit by H going into the first corner. I’m sorry for this, I was being very cautious and I didn’t see him. I hope I didn’t impact on your race too much.

After that, Steve was quite a way in front, I tried to put some pressure on him, as I was marginally faster, but couldn’t get close enough. So with 5 laps to go I settled in to finish.

That was my race, on balance I think it was better than I expected, I was able to run with people who are normally faster than me, I didn’t make too many mistakes and I enjoyed the race. Sorry again to H, looking back on the incident I was probable being too cautious.
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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2011, 11:52:25 AM +0100 »

Yes, this could have been a great fun...

My Quali was ok as I was the first non Chap.

Start was really funny as Clive seems to have forgotten the rolling start procedure  Grin Grin Grin

For about 9 laps in position 4, I could do some pressure to SamB in his truck till my engine exploded Shocked
S+R -> S+G+10
Came back behind Al and tried an early overtaking with still too cold tyres in Stowe, went wide and kissed the wall.
Rejoing behind my teammates Jason and Phil my engine had no longer the full power.
Some laps later at Woodcote I was too far inside and spinned.
Steve following me had no chance to avoid collision with me, aired me landing on my roof. ESC+return!
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2011, 01:13:24 PM +0100 »

Ah so that was Clive that drove into my car's rump at the start! Certainly gave me a shock. Good job the Chapp I was driving weighs about four tons  Cheesy.

Good race overall. Was a little disappointed that H pipped me on the last lap but I'm still reasonably satisfied with 4th. My pace was consistent, just consistently slow  Grin. I've always found Silverstone a tricky track to go around quickly. I've never been able to do one banzai lap and just have to keep circulating to get a good qualifying time. The race was the same story, lapping, at what felt like a reasonable pace, but still a second a lap slower than Tim and Juha up front.

Towards the end, H was catching me at a rate of knots and I was powerless to respond. When he passed me I decided to experiment for the rest of the lap and brake when H braked  Roll Eyes. Was very surprised how late it was actually possible to brake and still meet the corner. Still, H took a deserved 3rd, me in a steady 4th. Maybe I need to be more brave at the next one.
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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2011, 01:32:06 PM +0100 »

On the next lap I was hit by H going into the first corner. I’m sorry for this, I was being very cautious and I didn’t see him. I hope I didn’t impact on your race too much.

No, I was not affected, only you. I'm sorry as well, but you braked so much earlier and I wasn't close enough to even expect that we're in risk of contact, let alone move aside to try and overtake into T1.

My race was rather crazy. I spun at the start after putting my right front tire onto the pitlane entry area and the car snapped under throttle, then it parked exactly into the pitwall edge. I continued and it appeared there was no damage to the car, or at least nothing noticeable.

I had another issue soon after while going on the outside of Jason. It looked like a warp contact, but from my end he lost the rear a bit and the contact sent me up the banking. Funnily, the car rolled over at a very slow speed and back on its wheels, but now I was dead last.

I made up some positions pretty quickly, but then the gaps were bigger at the front and the drivers faster, so it took a while until I was back near the top 3, closing in on Sam.

Just when I managed to get within 2 seconds of him, the high risk driving I was conducting bit me back as I was negotiating T2. Trying to go flat out or nearly flat out through there, I lost the car a bit, went wide into the grass, and couldn't stop on time for T3. The car spun across and into the haybale at the apex of the corner and then over the nasty curb. Either of those ripped my rear wheel off, so a shift-r, a 10 seconds pitstop and I was back in the race, but now with lots of fuel, cold tires and huge gap to the front.

The car appeared to handle a bit better this time, so perhaps those early contacts did some damage which was now "repaired". That allowed me to do some quick and consistent lap times, and despite some issues with backmarkers, who I believe just weren't aware of my presence or thought it's a fight for position, I managed to move up to 4th, with Sam 12 seconds ahead with 10 laps to go.

It happened so that I managed to be in a position to attack him right on the last lap, but once I was in front, he suddenly sped up and with the aid of slipstream was a big threat all the way until the end. It was a very exciting finish to an exciting race, but the distraction from watching F1 on Tv while going on the straights and the lack of practice on full tanks probably robbed me from a possible victory.

Grats to Juha and Tim, you looked like you had a great race up front!

When he passed me I decided to experiment for the rest of the lap and brake when H braked  Roll Eyes. Was very surprised how late it was actually possible to brake and still meet the corner.

I'm glad you didn't decide to brake later than that!  Grin
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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2011, 04:25:26 PM +0100 »

We did  Grin

Each of us had setups that were better in different sections of track despite driving the same car with almost identical lap times.
Juha's setup seemed better at high speeds - wether it was more stable or simply gave more grip I don't know, but he would pull away substantially out of the high speed turns (Especially Chapel and Abbey, although for some reason not Woodcote).
While I was better under heavy braking and in the slow turns, where I would reel Juha back in and even gain some small amount of time on him if I'd dropped back at all.

After trying not to laugh too much at the start (Sorry H  ninja), my race consisted of following as close as I could to Juha in my 2D and trying to force him into an error - a kind of slower version of my race with H in the 66's last week.
Juha was having none of it however and plain refused to make any sort of usefull error that I could capitalise on  Angry
Things got much more interesting as we began catching backmarkers, they were all great but were often taken by suprise I think when I appeared immediatly behind Juha. However all went well in that regard, occaisionally Juha would catch someone in the wrong place and nearly give me an opening - other times I'd get stuck instead..
Most enjoyable part of the race had to be near the end when we caught a group of some 5 or 6 cars all caught up in their own battles and had to fight our own way through this field while striving to gain an advantage over each other  Grin

My ever increasing pressure on Juha ended about 4 laps from the finish when he braked slightly earlier for Club than he had in the rest of the race (setting himself up for a backmarker we were just catching) and I was caught out.
I think my emergency braking and swerve must have missed him by centimeters, before I ran out of track and put 2 wheels on the grass round the outside - amazingly I'd only lost a second in this but based on previous battles through backmarkers I'd need more than 4 laps to get back to a position I can harass from without the help of more backmarkers.

As it happened the backmarkers didn't appear so Juha had a relatively safe win after all the action of the race - Well done on a great drive Juha  thumbup1
Well done to H on a great recovery - shame Sam couldn't hold you off though as team Orange could do with some added points to catch you back up after all our assorted holidays!
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