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June 14, 2011, 09:56:41 PM +0100 - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65)
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Cookie
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 2 +0.667
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1 39:35.386
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25 1:34.163
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maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 8 +1.770
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2 (+1) +31.079
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25 1:34.791
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Dunlop  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 6 +1.667
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3 +37.883
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25 1:35.012
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Dunlop  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 11 +2.228
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4 (+7) +43.652
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25 1:34.520
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Dunlop  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 15 +3.060
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5 +50.639
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25 1:34.309
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Dunlop  
norbert
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 3 +1.355
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6 (+3) +53.413
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25 1:35.364
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Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 9 +1.924
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7 +54.219
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25 1:34.926
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Dunlop  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 5 +1.660
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8 +56.773
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25 1:35.076
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Dunlop  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 13 +2.723
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9 +1:19.471
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25 1:35.471
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Goodyear  
DuFossa
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +1.749
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10 +1:25.420
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25 1:34.217
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Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 10 +1.945
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11 +1L
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24 1:34.582
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Goodyear  
karlisss
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 1 1:32.777
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12 +30.445
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24 1:33.894
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Goodyear  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 4 +1.620
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13 +2L
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23 1:34.891
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Dunlop  
s2173
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 12 +2.505
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14 +7L
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18 1:35.587
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Goodyear  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 14 +2.944
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15 +21L
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4 1:37.548
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Goodyear  
5 UKGPL.65
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

The Novices always look forward to Silverstone, and Billy was so excited that he started before everybody else.

Unfortunately he was spotted and reprimanded.

Skymole also thought about going early when Billy moved ahead of him but his quick apology to the stewards saw him excused.

Not many reports from this race but don't let that fool you.

There are more than a few penalties.


Server replay time: 0h00m30s

Billy loses control in T1, hits the inside wall and bounces across track where he is hit by Skymole.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h01m20s

Fran Rear Ends DU Fossa into Becketts on Lap1.
He claims Warp is involved but I have no client replay to check.
The server shows contact but a quite violent reaction from Du Fossa's car so there may be some warp element involved.
However, given that this was Lap 1 of the race when warp tends to be at its highest, Fran was taking a risk by getting so close to Du Fossa entering Becketts.

I have taken the warp effect into account but Fran could have avoided the incident by driving more carefully.

REVISION
- Blatant Rear End Shunt: Penalty 2 Places + 1 for lap one
The victim made no mistakes and was driving their normal line at normal speed. The shunter made no allowance for the victim whatsoever. The shunter was in full control -


Server replay time: 0h01m45s

Martin makes the catch of the race when he passes Fabio round the outside at Stowe.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h04m33s

Martin hits Norbert entering Becketts.
Martin claims that Norbert braked early enough to allow him a pass but he had no overlap and left his move very late.
Norbert was already heading for the apex and was in the middle of the track so any gap was fast closing.
Martin hit the inside kerb and lost control before hitting Norbert.


Server replay time: 0h04m42s

Norbert spins at Becketts and drives across the track in front of an approaching BadBlood who hits him.

Norbert had a clear view of approaching traffic but made no allowance for it.


Server replay time: 0h07m00s

Martin and Fabio contest Abbey.
Fabio is on the inside and the two are bot making a valid attempt to win the corner.
Martin suffers a warp contact and is thrown from the track.

Warp Incident

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h14m25s

Fran spins at Becketts and recovers across the racing line as Blito approaches.
Blito takes avoiding action and hits the fence.


Server replay time: 0h30m33s

Not an incident as such but Karliss asked me to look at it and give my opinion.
Karliss was following Skymole into Copse and had to brake hard to avoid a collision, making himself spin in the process.
Skymole continues apparently unaffected but discos along the next straight.
Is this disco caused by Karliss?

I do not think that the two incidents are related and I do not think it is Karliss' fault that Skymole had a Disco shortly after their near miss.
It is a slight possibility of course that Skymole's client saw some extra data traffic but his Disco would then have probably happened immediately rather than so long afterwards.
I do not think that Karliss could have done anything to prevent Skymole's Disco.
Sometimes accidents do happen.

  • Racing incident

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« Reply #30 on: June 15, 2011, 05:24:51 PM +0100 »

lol jason everyone ahead of me crashed and I just sped through and kept the lead for 3 laps
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« Reply #31 on: June 15, 2011, 05:34:04 PM +0100 »

Nice one! You've already led more laps than I have!
A promising career awaits Youngblood Smiley
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« Reply #32 on: June 15, 2011, 06:03:04 PM +0100 »

lol nice nickname, miniblood
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« Reply #33 on: June 15, 2011, 06:11:29 PM +0100 »

Call me Jensen!!

Did you hit your team mate and sent him against the pitwall while he was trying to pass you?!? cursing
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« Reply #34 on: June 15, 2011, 06:21:49 PM +0100 »

Nice one, even if I could expect a better final postion...

Qualify was really hard, lots of warp but finally I set the 4th time thumbup1

At race start I really wanted to avoid any problem so I started very carefully but I was able to get the 3rd position thumbup2

After few laps I got Martin at my back, warping like a maddog!, and it was really hard.

Then I made a mistake and I found myself on 11th place but I wasn't able to recover so many places as I expected.

Thx of some errors, I climbed few position but, 2 laps before the checquered flags I had no more fuel so I sadly park my red car on the grass...  oops

As it' not my first time on doing this, I will have to calculate better for the next ones censored

Grats to the winner, the podium, to everybody raced and, last but not least, to the racing organization!

Long Live UKGPL!

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« Reply #35 on: June 15, 2011, 06:30:24 PM +0100 »

Wondered what happened to you Fabio - I was trying my best to chase you down.

As for Joe's nickname 'Miniblood', sadly he can't spell  :'( either that or he is trying to curry favour with the Chief Mod which is why his handle here is THAMINIBLOD  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #36 on: June 15, 2011, 06:53:51 PM +0100 »


After few laps I got Martin at my back, warping like a maddog!, and it was really hard.


 Grin What you think to be warping is Martins regular driving style!  Grin
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« Reply #37 on: June 15, 2011, 10:10:30 PM +0100 »

Another entry in the Billy Nobrakes "How to mess up a GPL Race" - Chapter 14 Jump Start. Starting from P10 what I thought was a green flag going down was a green flag going up. From the proper start I found a Honda slowing rapidly into Copse - hit the brakes, span into the armco & bounced back across track into the path of Skymole (deepest apologies).
Pitted at the end of Lap 1 for what seems like forever - I think it was actually a 30 second wait penalty. Set off last & span off at Woodcote. Not even half way through Lap 3 & I pulled into to let Cookie lap me. Was seriously considering retiring but Silverstone has a wonderful flow so I stuck with it. Bizzarely I ran the remainder of the race 400 / 500 yards behind race leader & half a mile in front of 2nd placed Maddog, matched them lap for lap even pulling slightly away from Maddog. Climbed four places due to people having worse luck than me.
Albi next - that should be FUN.
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« Reply #38 on: June 15, 2011, 10:13:32 PM +0100 »


Thx of some errors, I climbed few position but, 2 laps before the checquered flags I had no more fuel so I sadly park my red car on the grass...  oops

Black Night Racing management suggest using the BT11 - it uses exactly the amount of fuel you put in it.
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« Reply #39 on: June 15, 2011, 10:30:40 PM +0100 »

From the proper start I found a Honda slowing rapidly into Copse

Sorry mate, think that was me. I am always pretty tentative going into T1 L1 on cold tyres. I wasn't brake testing you. Sorry if I caught you out.

Albi should DEFINITELY be fun.
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« Reply #40 on: June 15, 2011, 11:18:00 PM +0100 »

Bizzarely I ran the remainder of the race 400 / 500 yards behind race leader & half a mile in front of 2nd placed Maddog, matched them lap for lap even pulling slightly away from Maddog.

Yeah Billy you made me stay awake!
Had to control every lap the distance we had. You did a great race then!
Look at the "race history graph".
Next time will be better!
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« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2011, 07:16:15 AM +0100 »

do i must post race report for "incident" where collision was too close, and may look like collision from some angles?
after race i discussed with other car, and it even didnt noticed what happen behind. (i hit full brakes and spun)

do i must report or no, cos other car is not involved, but third party can make different opinion, especialy from server replay, where is recorded god knows what.

how to act on this?
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« Reply #42 on: June 16, 2011, 08:27:08 AM +0100 »

I was wonder about the same lately, Karlis, because otherwise some people keep putting others at danger but get away with it and then go on to repeat the same thing again. So indeed, do we really have to wait for a contact to happen before reporting? Or maybe the question should be, is it worth reporting a situation where no contact occurred? I think I asked Tim something like that recently, but it would be nice to have more of a public statement about it.
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« Reply #43 on: June 16, 2011, 08:36:33 AM +0100 »

If in doubt report it. The novices is fully nodded but you review the footage at high speed so slight clashes can get missed. If you report it though, the moderator can take a closer look. If a pattern of poor driving emerges the moderators can take action. Often there are not enough incident reports. So, go ahead Karliss and report it.
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« Reply #44 on: June 16, 2011, 08:49:59 AM +0100 »

As a general rule I would say report anything you want the moderators to look at specifically.
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