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June 19, 2011, 10:44:03 PM +0100 - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Works (67)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Tom van Ostade
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 3 +0.722
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1 50:08.946
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34 1:27.321
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Firestone  
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 1 1:26.492
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2 +2.849
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34 1:26.758
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Firestone  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 7 +2.690
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3 +54.900
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34 1:28.686
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Firestone  
ivandjj
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 9 +3.134
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4 +1L
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33 1:29.428
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Goodyear  
Beefpie
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 2 +0.311
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5 +2L
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32 1:28.208
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Firestone  
Rick Nauman
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 8 +2.690
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6 +7L
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27 1:29.647
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Goodyear  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 4 +1.727
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7 +20L
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14 1:28.579
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Goodyear  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 5 +2.159
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8 (+1) +10.205
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14 1:29.310
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Firestone  
Arf Arf Arf
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 6 +2.615
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9 +26L
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8 1:29.703
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Firestone  
john roberts
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 10 +34L
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0 ---
---
Goodyear  
Gpg UKGPL
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 11 DNS ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Unlike the Privateers there was no lap one pile-up although there was one coming together (see below).
Just a reminder re submitting replays. There's no need to submit server replay clips as we can see that anyway, it's your own ones we want to look at.


Server replay time: 0h01m57s

Evil attempts a pass on Arf heading into the corner. He pulls out and can be seen disappearing in Arf's mirrors so Arf must assume he is alongside. That said Evil has little overlap entering the corner so Arf effectively has the corner rights.

This is the applicable rule;
"Simple Ambitious Overtake: Penalty 1 Place
The overtaking car had NOT achieved a 50% or greater overlap at the point of turn-in. There was no loss of control by either driver. Penalty for overtaking driver."

However Arf did take a very defensive position, knowing Clive was to the right, and possibly should have left more room. In addition warp played a minor factor in that the server shows no hit although it is likely it would have happened anyway.
Due to both the very defensive line taken, which contibuted to the incident, and the element of warp I am going to mitigate the penalty by waiving the additional penalty for lap one.

June 20, 2011, 03:36:39 PM +0100 - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Privateers (67)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 3 +0.275
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1 51:50.334
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34 1:29.441
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Goodyear  
Ross Neilson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 2 +0.075
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2 +35.768
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34 1:29.345
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Goodyear  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 4 +0.415
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3 +54.250
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34 1:30.741
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Firestone  
Michael Turner
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 10 +2.937
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4 +1:32.179
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34 1:31.963
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Firestone  
miner2049er
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 7 +2.226
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5 +1L
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33 1:30.796
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Firestone  
happyal
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 12 +4.003
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6 +33.179
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33 1:32.086
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Firestone  
paulwbird
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 9 +2.506
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7 +38.938
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33 1:31.661
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Firestone  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 14 +4.551
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8 +2L
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32 1:31.614
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Goodyear  
hannah
 
Honda RA300 F1 1967 17 +9.677
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10 +4L
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30 1:39.054
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Firestone  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 13 +4.286
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11 +12L
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22 1:32.986
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Firestone  
Ronniepeterson
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 1 1:28.703
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12 +14L
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20 1:29.508
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Goodyear  
Geoff65
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 5 +1.298
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13 +1:08.273
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20 1:31.000
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Goodyear  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 6 +1.576
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14 +19L
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15 1:31.021
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Firestone  
s2173
 
Honda RA300 F1 1967 15 +5.681
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15 +21L
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13 1:33.604
---
Firestone  
b_1_rd
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 8 +2.390
---
16 +25L
---
9 1:32.717
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Goodyear  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 11 +3.973
---
17 +34L
---
0 ---
---
Firestone  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 18 DNS ---
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Firestone  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 16 +7.271
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Excluded +3L
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31 1:34.664
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

Well the lap one review was quite something. One incident that had a knock-on effect for 11 out of 17 drivers. Lucky Jason got through completely unscathed and with his fast pace went on to win. And who was the naughty lad who started all this mayhem? Ronnie, but in his defence it wasn't actually a spin or hit. No he had the misfortune to have an engine blow-out.

Surprisingly there will actually be NO penalties dished out for lap one, everything that happened after Ronnie stopped for a smoke being a series of unfortunate knock-on effects. I thought about how best to lay out what happened and a domino description seems best;

A bit after the start Ronnie blows and pulls over to the right by the pit exits to wait and reset. Victim no 1 is Ross who can't avoid the suddenly slowing Ronnie. Jason meanwhile sneaks through. Victim no 2 is Vos, slowing as he see's the unfolding mayhem ahead he is clipped by Geoff (no 3) who then picks up Fabio (no 4). The inertia created by the second hit sends Geoff into a new spin picking up Billy (no 5). Meanwhile Ronnie is parked up waiting to reset admiring the view in his rear mirrors. He is a fraction onto the track but, under normal circumstances, not enough to cause a problem. Of course this is not normal circumstances. With the ongoing Geoff 360 spin demonstration drivers are moving off the normal line to avoid joining in thereby setting a collision course towards Ronnie. Nigel clips him (no 6) picking up Sky (7) and Mike T (8) in the process.
I can't really place blame here as Ronnie had done the right thing and pulled away from the line to reset, unfortunately what was left of the pack pulled across too.

Anyway I have left out two victims. The best is left till last; meet the Marvelous Contortionist Extraordinaire aka Bernie. Squeezed between two slowing vehicles (see mayhem above) he decides the best option is to drive backwards whilst miraculously passing unscathed through following cars. If that was not enough of a show for his audience he then dissappears completely only to reappear across the track right in front of Paul W. Paul must have much appreciated that trick. Anyway there lieth no's 9 and 10 and that concludes a most interesting first lap.

BTW Paul W is excluded for being very naughty by stealing sweets from the fat controllers token jar.


Server replay time: 0h23m27s

This is really a case of two into one won't fit. Geoff went for a valid overtake and Diki equally validly defended. There may also be a small element of warp in that Geoff doesn't appear to feel the hit. It should be borne in mind that, without 100% overlap, the defending driver is under no obligation to concede the corner although both should of course leave each other enough room.
The rules have this;

"Contested Overtake: Racing Incident
The overtaking car had achieved a 50% or greater overlap but not 100% or greater at the point of turn-in and both drivers were in full control."

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h30m32s

Mike (miner) makes a valid pass then a bit further on loses control into the corner and spins. This in turn causes Diki to spin although, again, warp may have played a factor as Mike doesn't appear to take a hit. This could count as part of an overtake manouvre however Mike had cleared Diki with some space so it is being treated separately as a simple loss of control.

  • Racing incident

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« on: June 13, 2011, 11:04:52 PM +0100 »

And now to round 4 with a welcome return to Silverstone which we have not seen since Season 18. Tim FMG heads up the Works with Ronnie doing likewise in the Privates.

The Works will run on PRO Damage and Privateers will run on Intermediate Damage with the allowance of ONE shift-R reset. No Shift-Rs are allowed in practice unless authorized by the moderator. A Shift-R (fault or not) MUST be followed by a Stop & Go. A Shift-R for tyres/fuel is not allowed. Any driver taking more then ONE Shift-R OR failing to take a Stop & Go will be disqualified from the race result.

Race List = IGOR
Server(s);
Works = UKGPL_Gpg
IP address = 62.195.32.131
Privateers = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 19-06-2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Silverstone
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = Works; PRO / Privateers; INT
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 50 minutes (laps 34)
Password: see above

Driver lists can be found on the Works or Privateers championship standings pages.
The track can be downloaded from : papy original
Add-on’s available at : n/a

Please be in IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:50 pm UK Time

Reserve drivers should not join the server(s) until there are only 30 minutes of qualifying left. Please restrict chat to pit messages. Moderating will be by reported incidents only, however the moderators reserve the right to review any incident with a particular emphasis on lap one. The aim is to review the race the following weekend so incident reports should be submitted within five days of the race (ie the following Friday). We're hopeful most incidents can be resolved amicably and recommend a days deep breath with a replay review before posting. A sorry in the forum won't be taken as an automatic admission of guilt by the moderators. There will be FULL moderation of lap one regardless of whether you submit an incident report.
The Works will run on PRO Damage and Privateers will run on Intermediate Damage with the allowance of ONE shift-R reset. No Shift-Rs are allowed in practice unless authorized by the moderator. A Shift-R (fault or not) MUST be followed by a Stop & Go. A Shift-R for tyres/fuel is not allowed. Any driver taking more then ONE Shift-R OR failing to take a Stop & Go will be disqualified from the race result.

With the token system chassis strategy will be a factor. A driver must have sufficient tokens for the chassis he drives in the race.  Any driver who does not have sufficient tokens will be disqualified from the result and his tokens will be set to zero.

Chassis costs;
Lotus 20 / Eagle 17 / Ferrari 15 / Brabham 10 / Cooper 5 / Honda 3 / BRM 0

To see your current tokens hover your mouse over your total points on the Works or Privateers championship standings pages. Ten tokens will be added when you cross the start line.

There are two 67 Championships, namely Works and Privateers. The driver split will be;

WORKS drivers
Arf Arf Arf    
Baab  
Beefpie    
Evil Clive    
Fulvio Policardi        
Tim FMG  
Hristo Itchov    
ivandjj    
John Roberts    
Rick Nauman    
Sam B    
Tom van O    
Jethro W    
Karliss (R)    
Will Tway (R)    
 
   
   
   
   
   

PRIVATEERS drivers
Bernie      
Billy    
Blito    
Hannah    
Fabio L    
Mike T    
Mike (miner)    
Nigel Smith      
Ronnie P    
Ross N    
Skymole 2173    
Vosblod    
Paul (Badblood) (R)  
Steve Bird (R)  
Happy Al (R)  
PaulWBird (R)    
Martin (Maddog)  
Geoff Heard    


67 Patch: The 1.3 Release of the 67mod can be used.

NOTE: Please ensure you join the correct server, due to the way we import if you start the race on the wrong server your result will not count.

REPLAYS
Privateers server replays will be posted in the usual place after the event. Works will now be posted at http://grandprix.xs4all.nl/ . When downloading please check the timetable for other races and DO NOT download while another race is being run.


Silverstone is built on the site of a World War II bomber base, RAF Silverstone, which opened in 1943. The track hosted the first F1 championship race in 1950. The British Grand Prix has been permanently held here since 1987. The airfield's three runways, in classic WWII triangle format, lie within the outline of the present track. The first two races were held on the runways themselves, with the 1949 International Trophy switching to the perimeter track. This arrangement was used for the 1950 and 1951 Grands Prix. In 1952 the start line was moved from the Farm Straight to the present Finish Straight, and this layout remained largely unaltered for the following 35 years. Since 1975 the track has been modified with the introduction of chicanes etc – we are using the 1960’s layout.
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2011, 11:43:18 PM +0100 »


I've noticed, my name does not appear in the list for Privateers.  This may be the reason, my brake pedal has decided to break in two, a second time.  My antique wheel already bit the dust, several weeks ago.  So I just whipped out the Araldite, a second time. Only this time, to attempt a stronger bond, I stuck the injured item in a low oven, and the whole thing has now melted!  So no need to add my name - I'm stuck with being a nonstarter, until further notice.  :'(
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2011, 08:09:50 AM +0100 »

I'm stuck with being a nonstarter, until further notice.

Tell me this is not true!!!!!  Sad

You have just got to come up with a fix before tonight. Good luck.

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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2011, 08:31:32 AM +0100 »

what a bummer Sad
these wheels just are not quite strong enough for GPL style abuse.... my thrustmaster is only 14 months old and already has a damaged mounting bolt and inoperative gear paddles!
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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2011, 09:29:02 AM +0100 »

My MSFF is more than 10 years old and working almost fine.  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2011, 09:36:46 AM +0100 »

I used to have a non-FF MS wheel and it was the business.. lost it when i moved house Sad
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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2011, 10:21:38 AM +0100 »

Sorry to hear re the wheel troubles Martin. Anyway you were registered so put you on the list, hope you get things sorted soon.
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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2011, 11:53:35 AM +0100 »

I'm stuck with being a nonstarter, until further notice.
You have just got to come up with a fix before tonight. Good luck.

Things are complicated by the fact I'm moving house again ATM.  I've had an offer from Cookie, to send his spare wheel from Germany.  I might accept his overwhelming gesture, so as not to miss too much.  Oh, the accompanying sound, is only my teeth gnashing!  Sad
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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2011, 01:48:03 PM +0100 »

Save up and scrounge a G25.....even secondhand if necessary.......They're hard as nails and take all we can dish out   Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2011, 01:50:24 PM +0100 »

I used to have a non-FF MS wheel and it was the business.. lost it when i moved house Sad


Costly business in more ways than one, this moving caper.......... Angry
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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2011, 02:31:15 PM +0100 »

Thanks for the 'Get well soon cards'.  It's more a question of attitude than money - a more serious investment, may mean a more serious attitude.  Axel has come to the rescue, while I decide. Wink
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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2011, 04:30:19 PM +0100 »

Sorry to here that Martin , hope you get off the intensive care list soon  Smiley


Been having probs myself of the grafix kind , all started when I decided to clean the pedal pots and dust the PC out , dont think they like being Hoovered  Roll Eyes

Hopefully now back in business  Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2011, 05:44:54 PM +0100 »

Both servers are set to 34 laps Long race.
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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2011, 08:02:57 PM +0100 »

Many thanks Fulvio.
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« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2011, 08:26:59 PM +0100 »

Looks like I'm going to miss this due to spending the entire weekend at Combe and getting back home late today  Sad

Bye Bye championship lead  :'(
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