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  • S21Nov Silverstone: June 14, 2011
June 14, 2011, 09:56:41 PM +0100 - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Cookie
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 2 +0.667
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1 39:35.386
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25 1:34.163
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Dunlop  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 8 +1.770
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2 (+1) +31.079
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25 1:34.791
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Dunlop  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 6 +1.667
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3 +37.883
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25 1:35.012
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Dunlop  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 11 +2.228
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4 (+7) +43.652
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25 1:34.520
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Dunlop  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 15 +3.060
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5 +50.639
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25 1:34.309
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Dunlop  
norbert
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 3 +1.355
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6 (+3) +53.413
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25 1:35.364
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Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 9 +1.924
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7 +54.219
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25 1:34.926
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Dunlop  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 5 +1.660
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8 +56.773
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25 1:35.076
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Dunlop  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 13 +2.723
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9 +1:19.471
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25 1:35.471
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Goodyear  
DuFossa
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +1.749
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10 +1:25.420
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25 1:34.217
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Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 10 +1.945
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11 +1L
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24 1:34.582
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Goodyear  
karlisss
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 1 1:32.777
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12 +30.445
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24 1:33.894
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Goodyear  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 4 +1.620
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13 +2L
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23 1:34.891
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Dunlop  
s2173
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 12 +2.505
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14 +7L
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18 1:35.587
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Goodyear  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 14 +2.944
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15 +21L
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4 1:37.548
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Goodyear  
5 UKGPL.65
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

The Novices always look forward to Silverstone, and Billy was so excited that he started before everybody else.

Unfortunately he was spotted and reprimanded.

Skymole also thought about going early when Billy moved ahead of him but his quick apology to the stewards saw him excused.

Not many reports from this race but don't let that fool you.

There are more than a few penalties.


Server replay time: 0h00m30s

Billy loses control in T1, hits the inside wall and bounces across track where he is hit by Skymole.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h01m20s

Fran Rear Ends DU Fossa into Becketts on Lap1.
He claims Warp is involved but I have no client replay to check.
The server shows contact but a quite violent reaction from Du Fossa's car so there may be some warp element involved.
However, given that this was Lap 1 of the race when warp tends to be at its highest, Fran was taking a risk by getting so close to Du Fossa entering Becketts.

I have taken the warp effect into account but Fran could have avoided the incident by driving more carefully.

REVISION
- Blatant Rear End Shunt: Penalty 2 Places + 1 for lap one
The victim made no mistakes and was driving their normal line at normal speed. The shunter made no allowance for the victim whatsoever. The shunter was in full control -


Server replay time: 0h01m45s

Martin makes the catch of the race when he passes Fabio round the outside at Stowe.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h04m33s

Martin hits Norbert entering Becketts.
Martin claims that Norbert braked early enough to allow him a pass but he had no overlap and left his move very late.
Norbert was already heading for the apex and was in the middle of the track so any gap was fast closing.
Martin hit the inside kerb and lost control before hitting Norbert.


Server replay time: 0h04m42s

Norbert spins at Becketts and drives across the track in front of an approaching BadBlood who hits him.

Norbert had a clear view of approaching traffic but made no allowance for it.


Server replay time: 0h07m00s

Martin and Fabio contest Abbey.
Fabio is on the inside and the two are bot making a valid attempt to win the corner.
Martin suffers a warp contact and is thrown from the track.

Warp Incident

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h14m25s

Fran spins at Becketts and recovers across the racing line as Blito approaches.
Blito takes avoiding action and hits the fence.


Server replay time: 0h30m33s

Not an incident as such but Karliss asked me to look at it and give my opinion.
Karliss was following Skymole into Copse and had to brake hard to avoid a collision, making himself spin in the process.
Skymole continues apparently unaffected but discos along the next straight.
Is this disco caused by Karliss?

I do not think that the two incidents are related and I do not think it is Karliss' fault that Skymole had a Disco shortly after their near miss.
It is a slight possibility of course that Skymole's client saw some extra data traffic but his Disco would then have probably happened immediately rather than so long afterwards.
I do not think that Karliss could have done anything to prevent Skymole's Disco.
Sometimes accidents do happen.

  • Racing incident

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« Reply #45 on: June 16, 2011, 12:43:51 PM +0100 »

Things did not start well for me, at Silverstone.  My car's get up and go, seemed to have got up and gone, and I had to thrash some life back into it, to avoid being a tail ender.

Things improved after the opening scuffle, as I moved up from 8th, to 4th, in the first lap.  Norbert lay ahead in his fast Ferrari.  But as I jinked to his inside at Becketts, to undertake him, I was out jinxed by the Server, when his car suddenly disappeared !  The warping would get worse for a spell. Meanwhile, this sudden strangeness, made my car jump the curb in surprise.  Without hesitation, the curb flung it back across Norbert's nose . . . where he'd inconveniently reappeared to receive my greeting . . . grumble!  Sad

I recovered, managing to chase down Fabio, who seemed less than enthusiastic at my being there.  We commenced a good scrap, which included some dancing lessons from our Server.  Then banged wheels once or twice, before he over-rotated at Club, and I was suddenly 2nd !  So there I stayed, keeping a brief, but constant gap back to Norm, and later Jonnie O, in 3rd.

A dominating win by Cookie, and a rather pleased 2nd placer.  Much unfulfilled promise from Fabio, and Karliss, with his incredible speed.  The good thing is, there's always another race, just around the corner.  Cheesy 
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« Reply #46 on: June 26, 2011, 02:51:52 PM +0100 »

Race Mod Published.
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« Reply #47 on: June 26, 2011, 06:19:14 PM +0100 »

 :'( Another penalty for me due to warp.But to attach the replay to a incident report,the 7z compression is not accepted?
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« Reply #48 on: June 26, 2011, 07:16:09 PM +0100 »

:'( Another penalty for me due to warp.But to attach the replay to a incident report,the 7z compression is not accepted?

Even if there is warp it does not always mean that a penalty will not be issued as in this case.

If you're using 7zp then you can change the format to zip, rar or a few others.
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« Reply #49 on: June 26, 2011, 10:34:48 PM +0100 »

I also think, and stand to be corrected, that if the clip is short enough you can attached an uncompressed replay file.
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« Reply #50 on: June 27, 2011, 08:27:00 PM +0100 »

OK thank you ,in this case was short .The warp was at the third curve.Must i send the replay or the penalty is without appeal?
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« Reply #51 on: June 27, 2011, 08:47:55 PM +0100 »

OK thank you ,in this case was short .The warp was at the third curve.Must i send the replay or the penalty is without appeal?
Well normally we don't allow in new evidence after the fact ie you cannot submit a client replay when you chose not to do so during the reporting process. However, it is appreciated you did have issues sending it originally so, as an exception, if you do Appeal I will look at it. Please note, in future, client replays MUST be submitted during the incident reporting period. If you are having difficulties attaching it try a different zip format or make sure it is short enough to just attach the actual replay clip itself.

Accordingly yes you can appeal by sending me a PM and stating the reasons why you think the decision was wrong. When making your decision on whether to do this please bear in mind Mike's comments in the moderation as I can see he makes mention of warp. Our rules relating to warp incidents are here and I recently put a note here in the announcements section on this subject which gives some further advice as to how matters are treated.
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