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July 01, 2011, 10:26:36 PM +0100 - Kyalami (1961-67) - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
MagicArsouille
 SuperCup LOL\'Team 2
Porsche 910 GT 1967 2 +0.699
110.717mph
2 51:57.598
108.714mph
37 1:22.570
110.938mph
Dunlop  
clouds
 SuperCup GPFun
Porsche 910 GT 1967 4 +0.881
110.474mph
3 +1.772
108.652mph
37 1:23.312
109.950mph
Dunlop  
Tom van Ostade
 SuperCup Pasti Porsche
Porsche 910 GT 1967 3 +0.865
110.495mph
4 +14.857
108.198mph
37 1:22.659
110.819mph
Dunlop  
jhalli
 SuperCup Porsche International
Porsche 910 GT 1967 6 +1.523
109.625mph
5 +15.449
108.178mph
37 1:22.899
110.498mph
Dunlop  
andrwe
 SuperCup GPFun
Porsche 910 GT 1967 5 +1.507
109.646mph
6 +47.611
107.079mph
37 1:23.485
109.722mph
Dunlop  
NickyIckx
 SuperCup Pasti Porsche
Porsche 910 GT 1967 10 +2.296
108.620mph
7 (+3) +1L
106.266mph
36 1:24.134
108.876mph
Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 SuperCup Porsche International
Porsche 910 GT 1967 7 +1.817
109.241mph
8 +8.959
105.960mph
36 1:24.591
108.288mph
Dunlop  
Cookie
 SuperCup Porsche International
Porsche 910 GT 1967 9 +2.230
108.705mph
9 +17.504
105.670mph
36 1:24.728
108.113mph
Dunlop  
blito
 SuperCup Hiki-Waza 1
Porsche 910 GT 1967 12 +2.898
107.851mph
10 +2L
103.883mph
35 1:24.705
108.142mph
Dunlop  
RBald
 SuperCup GPFun
Porsche 910 GT 1967 13 +2.994
107.729mph
11 +1:03.700
101.782mph
35 1:25.650
106.949mph
Dunlop  
BadBlood
 SuperCup Hiki-Waza 1
Porsche 910 GT 1967 17 +7.448
102.367mph
12 +4L
96.658mph
33 1:28.202
103.855mph
Disco
Dunlop  
norbert
 SuperCup Pasti Porsche
Porsche 910 GT 1967 14 +3.086
107.612mph
13 +7L
103.063mph
30 1:26.625
105.745mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Arf Arf Arf
 SuperCup LOL\'Team 2
Porsche 910 GT 1967 8 +2.191
108.756mph
14 +20L
106.126mph
17 1:24.291
108.673mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Geoff65
 SuperCup Clark-Hill
Porsche 910 GT 1967 15 +3.229
107.432mph
15 +26L
101.513mph
11 1:25.364
107.307mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Rainier
 SuperCup LOL\'Team 2
Porsche 910 GT 1967 16 +4.256
106.153mph
16 +27L
103.138mph
10 1:26.571
105.811mph
Disco
Dunlop  
vosblod
 SuperCup Clark-Hill
Porsche 910 GT 1967 11 +2.316
108.595mph
17 +37L
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Disco
Dunlop  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Porsche 910 GT 1967 18 18 DNS ---
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Dunlop  
Hristo Itchov
 SuperCup Hiki-Waza 1
Porsche 910 GT 1967 1 1:22.036
111.660mph
Excluded +0L
109.986mph
37 1:22.164
111.486mph
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Our intrepid Porsche drivers wanted to test the top speed of their chariots on the long straight of Kyalami. Unfortunately it also has some corners too which seemed to confuse one or two of them.

Nicky felt the need to overtake by going through rather than around and Clive decided to test out the Rally Cross course but found it to be much overrated and eventually returned to the tarmac.


Server replay time: 0h00m50s

Hristo is seen to drive through the pit wall and at one point half of his car is on the wrong side of it.
The rules about the pit wall are very clear. All drivers are requested to have it in place so that everybody has the same amount of track available to them.
Drivers are able to race without it but if they cross the line where the pit wall should be then they are using a wider track that is not available to anyone else and they gain an unfair advantage.

Tom may or may not have had the wall in place but as he follows Hristo away from the start he is extremely close to it without actually crossing it.

Hristo - DQ


Server replay time: 0h01m31s

Nicky gets a run on Vos at Sunset but does not have any overlap at turn in. Vos takes the racing line and closes the gap where Nicky's nose is.

There is contact and Vos is punted off.

Vos has asked for no penalty to be given and Nicky has apologised so I will waive the penalty for the collision, but as this was lap 1 when all drivers are asked to be extra careful I will still apply the Lap 1 incident penalty place.


Server replay time: 0h32m56s

Jason is being lapped by Tom and Hristo and gets hit by Tom at The Esses.

The two leaders catch Jason at Sunset and Tom closes right up on him through the Esses just as Jason has a wobble at the apex and is slow out giving Tom little time to react as he is so close. Tom recovers but Hristo nips through and takes the lead that he would keep.

Jason could possibly have let the leaders past before Clubhouse but probably between Clubhouse and The Esses, however he may have been waiting for a much better opportunity where he could let both past on the longest straight in GPL.

It is not possible to see Blue Flags on replays so it is difficult to know if Jason had ignored them, and of so, how many?

Tom and Hristo feel Jason should have let them by sooner but Jason feels a little patience from Tom would have paid off and he would have let them both by cleanly. I think both are valid arguments and both could face a penalty.

This incident is perhaps more notorious for Jason's Vodka fuelled report that all moderators have printed, laminated and stuck on their walls. High up where the children can't read it of course.

Our rules say that moderators need to use discretion in all such Blue Flag cases and I will try to use a little more discretion and a little less vodka than Jason who said (among other things)

"Is this the Kya Porka race? ...."

"Full respect TO .... whatever his nabme is for for me foe me foero me for pushing me outta thae way on lap, Iduuno 26 or sumthing, .... pld fella! BTW I'm pissed - saturday night aint a good time for reAsoned debate :)"

"[forgive the spelling but tnis vodka is very strong""""!!!!)"

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h45m07s

Nicky rear ends Roberto as he is lapping him along the straight.

Roberto has stayed right and given Nicky the racing line but Nicky is trying to get a little extra slipstream and simply moves across to pass too late, hitting Roberto.

Both continue.

As Norbert approaches the aftermath of the collision he slows but Hristo who is behind him does not and just manages to squeeze through the gap between the stricken Roberto and the careful Norbert.

If Hristo had made contact with either one of them he could well have faced a penalty for a lack of care approaching an incident even though he was not shown any yellows.


Server replay time: 0h45m50s

Nicky has his third incident of the race while being lapped by Hristo who seems a little impatient and goes for a pass expecting Nicky to stay wide.

Nicky thinks it is a pass for position and takes the racing line but makes contact with Hristo before being knocked from the track.

Hristo continues apparently unaffected and Nicky recovers.

  • Racing incident

July 01, 2011, 11:02:22 PM +0100 - Kyalami (1961-67) - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
tom_g
 SuperCup LOL\'Team 1
Porsche 910 GT 1967 1 1:21.613
112.202mph
1 51:25.763
109.799mph
37 1:21.836
111.896mph
Dunlop  
Raoni Frizzo
 SuperCup Team Coyote
Porsche 910 GT 1967 3 +1.675
109.946mph
2 +38.537
108.445mph
37 1:23.195
110.068mph
Dunlop  
G Jonsson
 SuperCup Black Night
Porsche 910 GT 1967 4 +1.758
109.836mph
3 +56.070
107.840mph
37 1:23.443
109.741mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 SuperCup Hiki-Waza 2
Porsche 910 GT 1967 2 +1.589
110.059mph
4 +1:04.082
107.565mph
37 1:23.339
109.878mph
Dunlop  
Caracciola
 SuperCup LOL\'Team 1
Porsche 910 GT 1967 7 +2.591
108.749mph
5 +1L
106.466mph
36 1:24.995
107.737mph
Dunlop  
fpolicardi
 SuperCup Team7
Porsche 910 GT 1967 6 +2.343
109.071mph
6 +8.547
106.173mph
36 1:24.672
108.148mph
Dunlop  
natan5
 SuperCup Pastit Porsche
Porsche 910 GT 1967 5 +2.065
109.433mph
7 +35.852
105.247mph
36 1:24.427
108.462mph
Dunlop  
DuFossa
 SuperCup Team Coyote
Porsche 910 GT 1967 9 +3.490
107.601mph
8 +2L
103.750mph
35 1:25.493
107.110mph
Dunlop  
francesco
 SuperCup Pastit Porsche
Porsche 910 GT 1967 13 +4.789
105.983mph
9 +33.398
102.641mph
35 1:27.042
105.204mph
Dunlop  
Stefano62
 SuperCup Team7
Porsche 910 GT 1967 16 +6.018
104.497mph
10 +3L
99.779mph
34 1:27.142
105.083mph
Dunlop  
HendyNichols
 SuperCup Hiki-Waza 2
Porsche 910 GT 1967 10 +3.833
107.169mph
11 (+2) +8L
104.055mph
29 1:25.668
106.891mph
Disco
Dunlop  
JonnyO
 SuperCup Team Coyote
Porsche 910 GT 1967 12 +4.708
106.082mph
12 +11L
101.990mph
26 1:26.260
106.157mph
Disco
Dunlop  
il_lupo_mannaro
 SuperCup Black Night
Porsche 910 GT 1967 11 +4.676
106.122mph
13 +25L
103.075mph
12 1:26.229
106.196mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Roberto Vianna
 SuperCup LOL\'Team 1
Porsche 910 GT 1967 14 +4.963
105.770mph
14 +26L
95.883mph
11 1:26.564
105.785mph
accident
Dunlop  
Phil Thornton
 SuperCup Pastit Porsche
Porsche 910 GT 1967 8 +3.298
107.844mph
15 +34L
99.377mph
3 1:27.420
104.749mph
accident
Dunlop  
s2173
 SuperCup Team7
Porsche 910 GT 1967 15 +5.277
105.388mph
16 +25.220
91.068mph
3 1:28.952
102.945mph
Disco
Dunlop  
8 GPG
 
Porsche 910 GT 1967 17 17 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 0h01m03s

Jonny O goes too hot into Crowthorne on Lap 1 trying a pass on Fabio. He takes to the grass on the inside and Fabio has a little wobble, either in reaction to the move or a because of a slight loss of control. This wobble unsettles Hendy who taps Fabio before taking to the grass on the outside.

Jonny got away with it but he was way too hot into T1 on Lap when we always ask drivers to take extra care.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h01m15s

Clive has spun at Crowthorne and tries to rejoin before Barbeque, but on lap 1 and with all of the field now making their way past this is a very risky move and he would be well advised to either wait or rejoin after Barbeque.

To be fair to Clive he does join off the racing line on the outside of the bend hoping everybody else will be on the inside where the racing line is, but unfortunately Fabio seems to be going too fast to make Barbeque and looks to be going wide anyway before he hits Clive who drives back on track right in front of him.

I'm going to waive the rejoin penalty for Clive as he did take precautions to join safely, and I am not going to penalise Fabio for the contact as he did not expect Clive to rejoin in front of him.

You will be glad to know that Clive did eventually make it back on to the track, somewhere between Jukskei and Sunset.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h01m20s

While Clive and Fabio are having their issues, Skymole is having issues of his own, and considering that this is lap 1 in a Pro race where damage can mean retirement, he is taking far too many risks.

He attempts a pass on the inside at Jukskei that he gives up by taking to the grass and then Sunset where he goes from the grass on the left, all the way across the track to the inside and passes 2 cars.


Server replay time: 0h01m55s

Du Fossa spins at The Esses and is hit by Stefano as he blocks the track.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h02m12s

Hendy gets way too close to Roberto Vianna into the Leeukops bend and shunts him from behind.

This kind of incident is easily avoided and is needless as they are about to enter the longest straight in GPL where a pass will be possible without needing to close right up here.


Server replay time: 0h17m37s

Du Fossa and Fran head for T1 with Du Fossa ahead on the inside but Fran does his usual late brake and draws level on the outside.

As they make their way around the corner Fran moves slightly over the centre line into Du Fossa's side just as Du Fossa oversteers slightly knocking Fran from the circuit.

Fran was always taking a risk by going around the outside of this corner but having said that, the server shows no actual contact with Du Fossa keeping a tight line.

Fran submitted a replay that shows Du Fossa moving towards him and making clear contact.

This is as clear case of warp as you will ever see so any penalty shall be mitigated.

Warp Incident

  • Racing incident

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
GT 1967
1:21.613
112.215mph
tom_g
Qualifying
Porsche 910July 01, 2011, 11:02:22 PM +0100
S21PSC
Grand Prix Legends
GT 1967
1:21.836
111.909mph
tom_g
Race
Porsche 910July 01, 2011, 11:02:22 PM +0100
S21PSC
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« on: June 27, 2011, 10:00:26 PM +0100 »

UKGPL Season 21 Porsche Super Cup
Race 5 Kyalami

Race 5 takes the Porsche train to the southern hemisphere for an exciting race in South Africa, at Kyalami. First built in 1961 and first raced by F1 in 1966 following a major upgrade.

This is quite a track of 2 halves with the long straight offering some great slipstreaming opportunities which could end in disaster entering the long and slippery T1 at Crowthorne, especially on lap one. There is a large run off area but most drivers that use it do do not manage to find a quicker line than those who stay on the tarmac.

*** NOTE***
Ensure that you have the pit wall in place. Those found to be racing without the pit wall in place will be disqualified, regardless of any advantage gained.


The standard Papyrus track has a pit wall but there are patches available that remove it. The absence of a pit wall will not stop you from joining the race but anybody seen by the moderators miraculously driving through the pit wall on the server replay will be disqualified.

Follow these instructions to restore the wall if you have a mod that has removed it:
METHOD 1:
To place a wall between the pits and the track, rename or remove the kyalami.trk and kyalami.3do files from your kyalami folder.
METHOD 2:
To reinstall the original Papyrus Armco, rename or remove the Armco_s.mip file from your kyalami folder.

Please see the Porsche Super Cup registration thread for an explanation of the Team Setups:
http://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9197.msg166098#msg166098

1 TEAM NAME - Pasti Porsche - SERVER 1
Driver 1 - Pro - Tom Van Ostade
Driver 2 - Am - Nicky Ickx
Driver 3 - Nov - Norbert

2 TEAM NAME - Porsche International - SERVER 1
Driver 1 - Pro - Juha Hallikainen
Driver 2 - Nov - Ronniepeterson
Driver 3 - Nov - Axel Cookie

3 TEAM NAME - Clark Hill - SERVER 1
Driver 1 - Am - Geoff Heard
Driver 2 - Am - Steve Bird
Driver 3 - Am - Vlad Vosblod
Reserve - Nov - Happy Al

4 TEAM NAME - Hiki-Waza 1 - SERVER 1
Driver 1 - Pro - Hristo
Driver 2 - Nov - Paul
Driver 3 - Nov - Blito

5 TEAM NAME - Hiki-Waza 2 - SERVER 2
Driver 1 - Pro - Evil Clive
Driver 2 - Nov - Nigel Smith
Driver 3 - Nov - Karliss

6 TEAM NAME - Black Knight - SERVER 2
Driver 1 - Pro - G Jonsson
Driver 2 - Am - Pedro
Driver 3 - Nov - il_lupo_mannaro

7 TEAM NAME - Team Coyote - SERVER 2
Driver 1 - Pro - Raoni Frizzo
Driver 2 - Nov - Jonny'O
Driver 3 - Nov - Du Fossa

8 TEAM NAME - Team 7 - SERVER 2
Driver 1 - Pro - Fulvio Policardi
Driver 2 - Am - Bob Whitwell
Driver 3 - Nov - s2173

9 TEAM NAME - Team GPFun - SERVER 1
Driver 1 - Pro - Andrea Tendas
Driver 2 - Am - Sergio Lonzar
Driver 3 - Nov - Roberto Baldassarri
Reserve - Am - Gianni Sellitto

10 TEAM NAME - Pastit Porsche - SERVER 2
Driver 1 - Am - Phil Thornton
Driver 2 - Am - Natan
Driver 3 - Nov - Francesco

11 TEAM NAME - LOL'Team 1 - SERVER 2
Driver 1 - Pro - Tom Guérout
Driver 2 - Am - Eric Goubinat
Driver 3 - Nov - Maxime Lenclen
Reserve - Eric Daon

12 TEAM NAME - LOL' Team 2 - SERVER 1
Driver 1 - Pro Tristan Bot
Driver 2 - Am - Dave Rainier
Driver 3 - Nov - Arf Arf Arf
Reserve - Roberto Vianna

All drivers may join the server immediately but are asked not to go out on track until there are 30 minutes of qualifying left as this helps all drivers join the server successfully.

Please restrict chat to pit messages if necessary, and this includes the end of the race, until all running drivers have completed the necessary laps.

The Porsche Super Cup Races will be run across 2 Servers, under Pro rules and will be approximately 50 minutes in length.
Lap 1 will be fully moderated and thereafter will be reported incidents only.

SERVER 1
Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 01/07/2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Kyalami
Variant = GT67
Damage Model = PRO
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 37 laps
Password: see above

SERVER 2
Race List = IGOR
Server = GPG_8
IP address = 62.195.32.131
Race date = 01/07/2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Kyalami
Variant = GT67
Damage Model = PRO
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 37 laps
Password: see above

The Team Championship Standings can be found here:
http://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=309&theme=6

GT67 Mod: The GT67 Mod for GPL can be downloaded here:
http://www.sportscarlegends.net/index.html
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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2011, 10:03:28 PM +0100 »

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE READ THE INFORMATION IN RED ABOVE ABOUT THE PIT WALL.

THOSE SEEN RACING WITHOUT IT WILL BE DISQUALIFIED.

INSTRUCTIONS TO RESTORE IT ARE ABOVE!!!

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!!
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2011, 12:45:26 AM +0100 »

Well, I raced without the wall in the GT race, but since I know where it's meant to be, I never crossed over it, so if someone chooses to go with the pit wall, make sure you know where it actually resides, especially when going side by side on the s/f straight, when entering the pitlane and when exiting it.
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2011, 10:47:22 AM +0100 »

Uhm...it seems the race will gets though on server 1.
The stronger the opponents the greater the glory!  Wink
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2011, 11:21:33 AM +0100 »

Tom G on Server 2 is going to have a walk in the park...  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2011, 12:51:31 PM +0100 »

Tom G on Server 2 is going to have a walk in the park...  Roll Eyes

...hoping at least...it will be raining!!!  Grin
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2011, 01:54:25 PM +0100 »

To finish first, first you have to finish.
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2011, 01:55:59 PM +0100 »

To finish first, first you have to finish.

First you have to finish AND beat Tom.  Cheesy
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2011, 03:43:47 PM +0100 »

this ones gonna be a tough 'un.. anything better than last place will be a bonus to me......
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2011, 04:00:41 PM +0100 »

Ok this noon I'll try to adjust the pit wall.
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2011, 04:28:02 PM +0100 »

its easy to add the wall back in - follow step one to put it back in and step 2 to make it visible! (the all-in-one installer removes the pit wall and replaces the image file used for it with grass!

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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2011, 08:29:23 PM +0100 »

its easy to add the wall back in - follow step one to put it back in and step 2 to make it visible! (the all-in-one installer removes the pit wall and replaces the image file used for it with grass!

Indeed it functions!
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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2011, 11:40:34 AM +0100 »

Hi all free drivers,

There is a car vacant in the Black Night Racing team for an am/nov driver at Kyalami. Applications can be posted here.

Göran

 
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« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2011, 10:52:58 AM +0100 »

The stronger the opponents the more chances you have to...change hobby  Embarrassed
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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2011, 11:40:58 AM +0100 »

hey clouds i tried to join your server yesterday Kyalami  but never get in.
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