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July 26, 2011, 09:51:16 PM +0100 - East London - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +0.374
99.935mph
1 40:08.238
98.179mph
27 1:28.151
99.341mph
Goodyear  
Cookie
 
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 8 +0.841
99.405mph
2 +16.079
97.528mph
27 1:28.640
98.793mph
Dunlop  
DuFossa
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 1 1:27.253
100.363mph
3 +22.129
97.285mph
27 1:27.998
99.514mph
Goodyear  
happyal
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 6 +0.624
99.651mph
4 +25.966
97.132mph
27 1:28.674
98.755mph
Dunlop  
Rainier
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 2 +0.191
100.144mph
5 +30.011
96.971mph
27 1:27.307
100.301mph
Dunlop  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 16 +1.998
98.117mph
6 +43.113
96.453mph
27 1:29.328
98.032mph
Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 15 +1.950
98.170mph
7 +1:17.355
95.124mph
27 1:28.607
98.830mph
Dunlop  
HendyNichols
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 14 +1.734
98.408mph
8 (+2) +55.588
95.964mph
27 1:28.016
99.493mph
Dunlop  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 12 +1.374
98.808mph
9 (+5) +1:09.879
95.411mph
27 1:28.391
99.071mph
Dunlop  
karlisss
 
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 5 +0.522
99.767mph
10 +1:10.226
95.398mph
27 1:28.925
98.476mph
Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 13 +1.578
98.581mph
11 +1:15.438
95.197mph
27 1:27.965
99.551mph
Goodyear  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +0.719
99.543mph
12 +1L
94.356mph
26 1:29.310
98.052mph
Dunlop  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 19 +3.746
96.232mph
13 +2L
90.743mph
25 1:30.558
96.701mph
Goodyear  
economia
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 9 +0.898
99.341mph
14 +5L
96.266mph
22 1:28.259
99.220mph
Disco
Dunlop  
maestro57
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 18 +3.060
96.963mph
15 +8L
93.989mph
19 1:29.228
98.142mph
Disco
Dunlop  
AuldenA
 
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 17 +2.860
97.178mph
16 +13L
94.891mph
14 1:29.962
97.341mph
Disco
Dunlop  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 11 +1.300
98.890mph
17 (+7) +18L
91.756mph
9 1:28.538
98.907mph
accident
Dunlop  
norbert
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 10 +1.041
99.180mph
18 +20L
92.812mph
7 1:29.709
97.616mph
Disco
Dunlop  
s2173
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +0.468
99.828mph
19 +26L
82.153mph
1 1:46.248
82.421mph
Disco
Goodyear  
UKGPL 3
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 20 20 DNS ---
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Goodyear  

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East London is considered by some to be Kyalami's little brother but it is popular among the Novices and makes a welcome return where we had some good and close racing, some of it on the tarmac.


Server replay time: 0h00m58s

Fabio is battling with Fran and Economia on the run to T1.
Fabio wins this battle but goes too hot into T1 and rear ends Norbert, putting him into a spin before finally collecting him as he gets sideways.

Fabio should have avoided this collision but as he was in a 3 way battle with a car either side of him he may have lost sight of his braking point so I will mitigate 1 penalty place for the shunt but I will still apply the Lap 1 incident penalty place as all drivers need to take extra care into T1.

RogUK has to reset after getting caught up in the carnage but fails to take a Stop n Go


Server replay time: 0h01m20s

Karliss sits and waits patiently before rejoining.
He could have used all of the room off the track to his right to turn around and then drive alongside the track and rejoin more quickly.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h03m20s

Fran is following Paul towards the Esses but misjudges Paul's braking and rear ends him, knocking RogUK off in the process.

Paul seemed to brake a little earlier than usual and is slightly out of shape but it is still Fran's responsibility to avoid him.


Server replay time: 0h04m35s

Dave follows Du Fossa into the Esses when Du Fossa loses it, spins and blocks the track giving Dave nowhere to go.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h06m35s

Fran overtakes Billy under braking for the Esses but Billy doesn't realise he is there and turns in on him.

Only Billy is affected.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h10m08s

Fabio rear ends Pete Maestro into Beacon Bend.
Fabio entered at his normal speed but on the previous lap Pete had overshot a little and this lap was much slower in despite braking at the same place, he stayed on the brakes longer which caught out Fabio who had not seen Pete's problems on the previous lap as Fran had been in between them.


Server replay time: 0h25m20s

Hendy is chasing Norm along the straight and using his tow, but he misjudges his braking for T1 and read ends Norm.

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« on: July 24, 2011, 11:42:41 PM +0100 »

UKGPL Season 21 65 Novices Trophy
Race 7 East London

Round 7 of the Novices Trophy takes us to South Africa. Not to the familiar surroundings of Kyalami but even further south to the host of the 1965 South African Grand Prix in real life - Prince George Circuit in East London, Eastern Cape Province. Opened in the 1930s, it hosted the South African Grand Prix in 1934, and 1936 to 1939 when racing was halted due to World War II. Modified to meet Formula One regulations in 1959, the track was built into a seaside amphitheatre which hosted three rounds of the F1 South African Grand Prix in the 1960s. It was later deemed too small for Formula One cars, and the race was moved to Kyalami.

Jim Clark won the 1965 East London Grand Prix from pole in a Lotus.  His qualifying time was 1'27.2. If anyone matches that they will be doing well. The track is best described as flat & fairly simple to learn with lots of run off. This is the first time the Novices will have been there since Season 16.

Drivers should be especially careful on lap 1 as usual but especially under braking with cold brakes and tyres at T1 (Potters Pass). The hairpin at Cocabana is also very tight and could cause problems on Lap 1.

Download the circuit here

Please see the Novices registration thread for an explanation of the chassis allocations shown below:
http://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9196.0

FULL TIME
DRIVER  
 CHASSIS  
Billy NoBrakes
BT11
Nigel Smith
Honda
Maddog
Cooper
Il_Lupo
Ferrari
HappyAl
Ferrari
NHance
BT7
Norbert
Ferrarii
Blito
BRM
RogUK
Cooper
BadBlood
Honda
Francesco
Ferrari
Karliss
Cooper
Cookie
Cooper
DuFossa
BT11
Economia
BRM
JonnyO
BT11

RESERVE
DRIVER  
 CHASSIS  
Maestro
Cooper
Bookie
1
Fragfritz
1
GTA66
1
s2173
BT11
ivandjj
BT11

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Please restrict chat to pit messages if necessary, and this includes the end of the race, until all running drivers have completed the necessary laps.

The Novice races are run under Int Long rules and all incidents will be moderated.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL3
IP address = ping ukgpl3.dyndns.org
Race date = 26/07/2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = East London
Variant = 65F1
Damage Model = Int
Qualifying time = 35 minutes
Race length = 27
Password: see above

PLEASE NOTE THE CHANGE OF SERVER. UKGPL5 IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR THIS ROUND.

65 Patch: The 2.02 Release of the 65mod can and should be used.
http://bit.ly/d8dECl

Driver lists can be found on the Novice Championship Page
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2011, 12:46:52 AM +0100 »

As Karlis requested, though a bit later than promised, here's a track guide along with onboard lap, replay and setup for download:

http://racingleague.co.cc/hikiwaza/track-guides/east-london-track-guide-for-honda-ra272-gpl1965-mod/
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2011, 08:35:42 AM +0100 »

Thanks H.
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2011, 10:45:51 AM +0100 »

Dear Paul
it would be nice to tell us how many laps we have to drive tonight  Cheesy

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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2011, 03:02:59 PM +0100 »

Somewhere between 1 and 200! To be honest I am not sure. I've got to sort out the loose grid and the Int Long length. It will be the ususal 40 mins race though. 26 or 27 I think.
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2011, 04:03:36 PM +0100 »

In the Registration thread it says 26 laps.
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2011, 04:46:50 PM +0100 »

In the Registration thread it says 26 laps.

I predict that your front runners would be doing at least 1:27, if not 1:26, on average in the race, and that means a race duration of about 37 minutes, so IMO you should either run 27 or 28 laps.
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2011, 05:41:33 PM +0100 »

Thanks for that Al and H. The last race was 26 laps but only lasted 38 minutes so I have rounded up to 27 laps. If anyone crashes out on the last lap they can complain to Mike. That might suit me as I will almost certainly only manage 26...

I can do about 1:31 around here which puts me about 1:40 down on the leaders over the course of the race but if I average 1:31 I will eat somebody else's hat.

I've checked the loose grid and its ok but the flag is a bit difficult to see.
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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2011, 10:36:11 PM +0100 »

congratz Podium!!!!
atleas some Cooper there hehe
i had extra frustrated week so no setup experiments for race or even practice at all since last thirday.
did good qual but in start something strange happened.. my framerates droped to some 2-3, cars in front appeard and disapeard and my car also, some flickering black screen.... so somehow i maneged to avoid any collisions and pleased that cars behind me avoided me while i raced dont know where in T1 from deep right line to extra left line and out of grass without understanding what happens. Then i wanted to rejoin race, and thing was, that track looks prity clear, and then from NOWHERE about +/-100meters further from nowhere car by car appeard, so i decided to wait until all cars will pass me by. I also couldnt understand do all cars pass me by or no, cos as i sad, they apeard from nowhere...
so when i entered in Lap1 first hairpin my goal for race was TOP-10.. and somehow i managed to do this from far P19 in lap1.
also this screen frame rate thing appears during race overall 4 times, but most heavy it was during lap 1 and start.
can someone give me addvice what it is?
ps
here was a big storm some 5-4 hours before race, and i hadnt inthernet at all. it appears some 10 min before practise (when i entered igor)
so maybe it is connection?
i dont know.
anyway sorry for this T1 (almoust) incident and once agen thank you all to avoid me, i dont know how it looks from aside.
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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2011, 10:36:18 PM +0100 »

I was 2nd on the grid.
During the 2nd or 3rd lap, DuFossa spun just infront of me (we were 1 and 2) and I could not avoid the collision.

After waiting that several cars passed, I could do a shift R and then a stop and go (I waited 10 seconds in the pits because I was not sure of the rules)
After that I had a pleasant race from 15th position to 4th.
In the last lap, I spun and lost my 4th position.

2nd on the grid, best lap and a final 5th position, not so bad for my first ever 65 UKGPL races  Wink

Grats to Jonny and Axel !
and of course, thanks to UKGPL organization !    
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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2011, 10:44:36 PM +0100 »

 The Race According to Blito
I havent done ANY GPL since our Monza race of a fortnight ago and so came into this not entirely sure of just how good (or badly) I was going to do. I already have a usable setup for the BRM on this track so just slapped the car full of fuel and trotted round getting the feel of things and as a result was only 16th on the grid.
I'm sure many of you will have seen my chat message before the race warning of the likelihood of carnage at T1.. well, seems I was right and my cautious start was enough to turn p16 into p10 by the end of lap one.. A few laps later and thats p5 and I settled into a good fight with economia which lasted more-or-less the whole race, ending only when his BRM engine let go in spectacular fashion.. In all honesty I was waiting for it to happen as he was clearly using the whole rev-range from his V8 and as I found out in Monza, the BRM engine is NOT indestructable!
All in all, not a great race from me but the end result is a decent haul of points and thats got to help my championship position!
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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2011, 10:53:19 PM +0100 »

hm, just watched my replay..
replay is in normal framerate. only oquard thing is apearing cars from nowhere when i want to rejoin.
anyway, from aside my racing seems very sick during first meters.... illogical and slow.
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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2011, 11:08:17 PM +0100 »

Really poor showing from me. I spent most of the day preparing the server and ensuring that there would be no virus scan during the race. Very nervous about how my connection would cope with a full grid. Seemed OK though. I know the track quite well but my driving seems to be going backwards. I certainly did in the race. Made up some places on Laps 1 and 2 and set a PB on Lap 3 then lost a couple of places at the last turn on Lap 4 and had a battle with a couple of cars ahead going down to T3 and it was VERY tight. Made a mistake going into the Esses and about ten cars streamed past. That was that except that Karliss had to go past - wasn't going to fight the championship contender and then suddenly Billy appeared from nowhere. Didn't fight him too hard either. After that it was a case of letting everyone by slowly as the field disappeared.

Getting a bit tired of being unable to be consistent and frankly I don't understand these setups. Coming to T3 sometimes I could brake steadily and sometimes it would just pitch me into the grass. I am sure I am doing something different but I don't know what. Lack of practice and a setup I don't understand doesn't allow me to maximise the little I have. All the drivers that I had regarded as my 'rivals' are just driving the wheels off me.

Maybe I should stick to starting the server - I am getting good at that.

Horrible self-pitying post this but reflects how hacked off I feel about the race.

WD podium and a special shout out to M. Rainier.
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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2011, 04:53:30 AM +0100 »

   The race for me was very quiet, did a steady pace and had no surprise.

   But only won because of problems Fossa and Rainier.
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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2011, 06:58:59 AM +0100 »

Paul - next season try a better car than the Honda - I find its a b*****d to drive.. maybe the Ferrari,BRM or Lotus would be better for you....
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