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August 05, 2011, 10:31:00 PM +0100 - Spa (GPL) - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs
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 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
natan5
 
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 1 3:15.679
161.152mph
1 16:31.173
159.075mph
5 3:16.500
160.479mph
Goodyear  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 2 +0.561
160.692mph
2 +34.177
153.773mph
5 3:17.471
159.690mph
Firestone  
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 16 3 +38.303
153.156mph
5 3:12.500
163.814mph
Firestone  
Cookie
 
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 4 +2.421
159.183mph
4 +45.638
152.073mph
5 3:18.004
159.260mph
Goodyear  
Ronniepeterson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 3 +2.028
159.499mph
5 +53.684
150.902mph
5 3:19.478
158.083mph
Firestone  
Geoff65
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 6 +5.245
156.946mph
6 +55.455
150.646mph
5 3:20.440
157.325mph
Firestone  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 12 +18.712
147.087mph
7 +1:06.880
149.020mph
5 3:26.628
152.613mph
Goodyear  
s2173
 
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 9 +5.996
156.361mph
8 +1:07.179
148.978mph
5 3:19.691
157.915mph
Goodyear  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 8 +5.592
156.675mph
9 +1:41.854
144.251mph
5 3:20.846
157.007mph
Firestone  
jhalli
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 13 +18.949
146.925mph
10 +1:57.834
142.173mph
5 3:22.227
155.934mph
Firestone  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 11 +11.780
152.002mph
11 +2:21.492
139.203mph
5 3:29.206
150.733mph
Goodyear  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 5 +3.502
158.319mph
12 +4L
152.915mph
1 3:24.430
154.254mph
Disco
Goodyear  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 10 +8.071
154.769mph
13 (+3) +49.629
123.253mph
1 4:12.910
124.685mph
Disco
Goodyear  
DuFossa
 Team Coyote
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 15 14 +1:24.953
108.300mph
1 4:44.180
110.965mph
Disco
Firestone  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 7 +5.405
156.821mph
15 +5L
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0 ---
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Disco
Firestone  
Rainier
 
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 16 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 14 17 ---
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Firestone  
DuFossa
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

Spa - its quick, it's wide. The 69's have tons of grip. All we need is for drivers to be careful off the line...


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Oh dear. Blito gets a great start through Bernie. Unfortunately Bernie spins across the track and totals poor Jonny. JB shamefacedly continues. As Bernie spins away to the other side of the track, JB is relieved that he will not see Bernie again.


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Boba Fett is keen to assasinate somebody and after slowing decides that Blito is a criminal after that start and gives him a slap.

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Boba is in killing mode again as he slides past Badblood into a wormhole but BB cannot control the stargate as it closes and spins.

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Geoff decides to use the hedge to slow down at Malmedy which is not recommended but effective. His use of cloaking technology by throwing up dust completely foxes Mr Fett who drives straight into the Aussie at full pelt.

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Cookie blows an engine and in trying to slow down spins back onto the track where an unfortunate Vos is unable to avoid him. Vos doesn't notice for a few seconds that he only has three wheels but eventually admits the inevitable and resets.


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Jason is happy to see Bernie again and goes across to see him. Unfortunately he wipes him out (again). At least it isn't lap 1... actually, it is but Jason has already picked up something for Lap 1 and Jason couldn't see Bernie...


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Goran makes a mistake at Masta and is slow out. Ronnie senses a chance but Goran takes an odd line and squeezes Ronnie against the grass. RP pulls back in to the middle and the two touch. It was unfortunate and one or other needed to yield but Goran should really have kept to the left to leave Ronnie some room.

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After the cartwheels Goran resets and powers away... straight into Ronnie who resets in front of him. Unavoidable. Unlucky on Ronnie who mutters something about Swede and Turnips under his breath...

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Jason is not having the race of his life and loses it under braking taking out several houses and a Belgian farmer or two. Vos is getting quite good at picking up the spinners and sure enough hits the stricken JB. Once again he drives away but with only three wheels. Amazingly he makes it to the last turn of the lap which is impressive. He then buries the car nose first into the hay bales which is less impressive. He resets and takes his medicine and as a very good boy he also takes his second stop on Lap 2 to show the rest how it should be done.

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SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1969
3:12.500
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Race
Lotus 49b (DFV)August 05, 2011, 10:31:00 PM +0100
S21Sp
August 05, 2011, 10:33:40 PM +0100 - Spa (GPL) - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
natan5
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 2 +0.503
162.789mph
1 16:21.520
160.691mph
5 3:14.008
162.593mph
Firestone  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 3 +2.847
160.843mph
2 +11.259
158.869mph
5 3:14.441
162.231mph
Firestone  
Cookie
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 4 +2.884
160.813mph
3 +21.312
157.276mph
5 3:14.887
161.859mph
Firestone  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 11 +6.240
158.108mph
4 +23.120
156.993mph
5 3:16.531
160.505mph
Goodyear  
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 9 +5.522
158.679mph
5 +39.168
154.525mph
5 3:14.731
161.989mph
Goodyear  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 12 +6.860
157.618mph
6 +41.312
154.201mph
5 3:19.187
158.365mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 1 3:13.271
163.213mph
7 +43.999
153.797mph
5 3:14.632
162.071mph
Firestone  
Ronniepeterson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 6 +4.678
159.356mph
8 (+1) +48.585
153.112mph
5 3:15.805
161.100mph
Goodyear  
s2173
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 10 +5.977
158.317mph
9 +51.325
152.706mph
5 3:20.389
157.415mph
Firestone  
Geoff65
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 14 +10.436
154.851mph
11 +1:11.842
149.731mph
5 3:24.434
154.301mph
Goodyear  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 15 +10.680
154.666mph
12 +1:18.346
148.813mph
5 3:21.311
156.694mph
Goodyear  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 13 +7.038
157.478mph
13 +1:30.773
147.088mph
5 3:19.269
158.300mph
Firestone  
AuldenA
 
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 5 +4.172
159.764mph
14 +1:37.229
146.208mph
5 3:17.846
159.439mph
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 16 +22.312
146.321mph
15 +2:01.993
142.927mph
5 3:29.616
150.486mph
Firestone  
jhalli
 
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 7 +5.327
158.835mph
17 +2L
158.030mph
3 3:14.620
162.081mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Rainier
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 18 18 DNS ---
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Firestone  
UKGPL 3
 
BRM P126/139 F1 1969 17 19 ---
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Dunlop  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 8 +5.430
158.753mph
Excluded +0L
151.568mph
5 3:17.924
159.376mph
Firestone  
DuFossa
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 19 Excluded +1:20.745
140.654mph
5 3:36.526
145.684mph
Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

Nice and wide and we all have a feel for it now in Race 2. Surely we will all get away nice and clean second time of asking...


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Fabio gets a good run on Aulden but Aulden cannot know Fabio is there as he is never visible in the mirrors. Aulden takes the groove and Fabio does not hold a really tight line. The inevitable happens.

This was over ambitious and you can't win a race on lap 1...


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Geoff hits Aulden. Aulden car jumps across the track straight into Geoff's path and although he lifts and tries to go inside he does not have enough time. Unfortunate.


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Fabio resets into the path of Du Fossa who is left with nowhere to go.

On the face of it this is a bad reset but it was reasonable to expect that the field would have passed so I think this has to be seen as unfortunate.


What is less unfortunate is that Fabio and Du Fossa stack up a number of resets between them on Lap 1 and Fabio takes only one Stop'n'Go and Du Fossa forgets to take any.

Drivers MUST take a Stop'n'Go for each reset taken.

The Moderator made it quite clear that failure to take the necessary Stops would result in DQ


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Badblood spins late on in the lap and is rejoining on a blind corner. Unfortunately Fabio can't see round corners and approaches at high speed sliding wide into the almost stationary BB. Bad luck for both of them although neither did anything wrong here.


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Juha takes an unusual line through Masta and Ronnie thinks he can nip through - he can't.


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Ronnie is glued to Hristo's tail. Unfortunately when Hristo has to slow for Sky he finds himself in Hristo's cockpit...

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1969
3:13.271
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EvilClive
Qualifying
Lotus 49b (DFV)August 05, 2011, 10:33:40 PM +0100
S21Sp
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« on: July 30, 2011, 12:16:06 AM +0100 »

Round 7 promises to be another speed fest with the 69 cars at Spa. PLEASE NOTE WE ARE USING THE ORIGINAL 1969 MOD – not the revamped 69X. Based on previous discussions there were a few drivers whose PC’s were not capable of running the new Mod. The original 69 Mod physics has notorious drafting which can be exploited on the long straights at this classic Belgian circuit.

Just in case you missed it this series is now subject to Disqualification if drivers fail to take a compulsory Stop & Go following every Reset / Shift R. A 30 Sec penalty will apply to resets on the last lap.  

I shall be away on me hols for this one so your Master of Ceremonies is Badblood.

Your choice of chariot is the Brabham BT26 & the Lotus 49.

In the last race at Mexico the 66 cars proved to be a winner for Evil, taking the chequered flag in both races. Other podiums went to Hristo, Goran & Sam. In the table Evil leads from Natan & Hristo.

Spec Racing the format is a little different from other divisions. There will be two Intermediate Short Races, back to back on the same track. For each event there are two chassis available and you should drive both cars - anyone daft enough to use the same car will be disqualified for Race 2. Start with whichever chassis you like.

There is no handicapping all participants will run in one division.

Unlimited resets are allowed but every Shift R must be followed by a Stop & Go in the pit lane. If you Reset on the last lap a 30 second time penalty will be awarded.
Incidents should be reported in the usual way.
In line with other divisions the races will be subject to full moderation on lap one.
Also please note that qualifying runs are limited to 15 minutes – the clocks starts ticking when the server goes up so doesn’t wait around.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = Friday 05-08-2011
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Spa
Race length = Intermediate Short
Variant = 1969 (Original)
Chassis = Brabham BT26 & Lotus 49
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = 15 minutes

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2011, 03:38:17 PM +0100 »

OK - where do I have to be brave. Went out and did a tentative lap - 3:38. Kept my foot down where I could and went 12 seconds faster but I STILL need ten to be competetive. Maxing out at about 182 in the Lotus. How much more is there for that chassis and how do you get it?
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2011, 05:23:32 PM +0100 »

Everywhere Paul!!!! I'm still in my early learning curve with these cars let alone the new 69 mod. Running around at 3.23 in Brab and Lot at the moment. I got down there by being braver at Stavelot and the La Carriere complex (the two right bends). Nowhere near flat out through Masta kink yet and Eau Rouge is a bit hit and miss.  As for set up I'm a bit lost in these beasts. I tried Steve cloyds setup but they just do not suit my style at the moment but worth a go for comparison with your own? For me these cars offer more grip than I'm used to feeling, so I can theoretically turn in later but its hard to get used to. Hopefully one of the real speed demons will pass on some pearls.
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2011, 05:27:46 PM +0100 »

Cheers buddy. Get the point about grip but sometimes feels like I am driving ON pearls. If you don't improve too much we might even have a race... I'm three secs shy of you but knowing you I shall only see you as you breeze past a lap up Wink
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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2011, 12:54:15 AM +0100 »

I haven't practiced yet, but judging from a race we had a couple of months ago at Monza10k, you don't really benefit from running no wings or low wing angle in terms of achieving better top speed. Sure, you gain some 3-4 km/h or something, but that's far outweighed by your loss of downforce during cornering. I will probably use Masta as my guideline for setting up the wing angles, with the aim to be able to take it flat out without the car scrubbing off too much speed. Another corner which should be flat in these and could be used as a reference point is that long fast right-hander after Les Combes.
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2011, 09:13:13 AM +0100 »

... which I think is called Bournenville ...

Just done a couple of exploratory laps in both cars and set a best of 3:23..... guess thats not too competitve around here so looks like BB and I could have a good battle for last place Cheesy

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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2011, 09:47:07 AM +0100 »

Lap record Pedro Rodriguez V12 BRM , a smidgin short of 150mph lap , not sure what the time was  

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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2011, 10:26:50 AM +0100 »

... which I think is called Bournenville ...

This is where I am losing all my time I think. I end up going too tight and scrub off LOADS of speed - end up down at 125-130 mph or so. Every time I try to be brave I hit the end of the wall on the left...
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2011, 10:45:19 AM +0100 »

i have no idea where I'm losing speed but then again I've only done two laps, one in each car, and both times on a default setup with 10 Gallons of fuel....
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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2011, 11:18:46 AM +0100 »

... which I think is called Bournenville ...

This is where I am losing all my time I think. I end up going too tight and scrub off LOADS of speed - end up down at 125-130 mph or so. Every time I try to be brave I hit the end of the wall on the left...

Watch a replay from GPLRank, the line through that corner is essential for how much speed you can carry into the next left-right-left sequence of corners.
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2011, 11:55:15 AM +0100 »

Tx.
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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2011, 01:20:26 PM +0100 »

Just think yourselves lucky that you have wings!! and that Stavelot was improved!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu_x-0PllUc

tough??? you youngsters don't know what real driving is  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2011, 03:50:40 PM +0100 »

Just think yourselves lucky that you have wings!! and that Stavelot was improved!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu_x-0PllUc

tough??? you youngsters don't know what real driving is  Roll Eyes

LOL, 1939? I didn't know you're such an ancient Evil!  Shocked

Great footage, Spa looks so different! Much more narrow and what's with Stavelot being a slow hairpin?! Also spooky about Seaman's 13-26 number circumstances around his fatal accident.  Huh
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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2011, 08:54:28 PM +0100 »

Great find there Clive , just love that old stuff  Wink
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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2011, 09:44:54 PM +0100 »

Thunder & lightning here!
A black out throw me out of race 1 cursing
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