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  • S21Nov Oulton Park: August 23, 2011
August 23, 2011, 09:54:17 PM +0100 - Oulton Park (GP 1954-72) - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +0.438
99.998mph
1 40:29.042
98.179mph
24 1:40.295
99.075mph
Dunlop  
Cookie
 
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 1 1:38.931
100.441mph
2 (+5) +4.996
97.978mph
24 1:39.300
100.068mph
Dunlop  
HendyNichols
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 8 +1.682
98.762mph
3 +14.502
97.597mph
24 1:38.372
101.012mph
Dunlop  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 5 +0.589
99.847mph
4 +21.000
97.338mph
24 1:39.793
99.573mph
Dunlop  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 6 +0.868
99.567mph
5 +45.798
96.362mph
24 1:38.913
100.459mph
Goodyear  
DuFossa
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 13 +3.454
97.053mph
6 +1:11.291
95.380mph
24 1:40.984
98.399mph
Goodyear  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 7 +1.570
98.872mph
7 (+3) +1:37.843
94.378mph
24 1:40.267
99.103mph
Dunlop  
Rotaxmax125
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 12 +2.773
97.702mph
8 +1:38.724
94.345mph
24 1:41.916
97.499mph
Goodyear  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +0.522
99.914mph
9 +1:39.337
94.322mph
24 1:41.196
98.193mph
Dunlop  
economia
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 9 +1.723
98.722mph
10 +1L
93.972mph
23 1:40.363
99.008mph
Dunlop  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 11 +2.521
97.945mph
11 +40.537
92.432mph
23 1:41.398
97.997mph
Goodyear  
AuldenA
 
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 14 +4.276
96.280mph
12 +14L
93.328mph
10 1:41.181
98.207mph
Disco
Dunlop  
s2173
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 2 +0.435
100.001mph
13 +18L
89.777mph
6 1:40.307
99.063mph
Disco
Goodyear  
happyal
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 10 +2.246
98.211mph
14 DNS ---
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Dunlop  
luked
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 15 +4.704
95.882mph
15 ---
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Goodyear  
UKGPL 3
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 16 16 ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

A tricky circuit for our Novices with lots of braking zones through corners and elevation changes.

Oh, and a pretty lake to look at too.


Server replay time: 0h01m15s

Fran gets a run on Norm towards Island Bend and the Ferrari power is enough to carry him through.
Norm sees the move develop, and though he does not turn in on Fran, he is clearly centre line driving and does not give Fran room even though he has overlap at turn in.
From Norm's cockpit Fran has disappeared and can only be alongside therefore he should be given room by Norm.
Fran has a much narrower entry than he would have liked and so he fights to stay tight but runs wide and contact is inevitable, though it actually occurs near or on the centre line.
Though this is Lap 1 when drivers are asked to take care, had Fran been given room he would have got the move done cleanly.
As both cars moved from their own side of the track, Norm on apporoach and Fran on exit it is a Contested Side by Side contact: Racing Incident

"In a corner, after a legitimate overtaking attempt the cars end up side by side. Both drivers move over instead of staying on their own side of the track. Contact is made.


Server replay time: 0h01m50s

Axel makes a mistake which allows Sky to make a move on him, but once done Sky wipes Axel's nose and should be careful to give Axel more room or risk taking them both out with contact or warp.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h04m50s

Axel rear ends Sky into Esso Bend.
Axel has followed Sky on the previous lap and Sky had approached Esso at the same speed on those laps.
As the Duckhams sign disappears from his view he is doing 102mph on lap 1, 101mph on lap 2 and 102mph on lap 3 when the impact occurs.
His braking point is the same to within a few feet.
As the Shell sign begins to disappear from his view he is doing 79mph on lap 1, 81mph on lap 2 and 78mph on lap3 when the impact occurs.
It is clearly Axel's responsibility to avoid a collision but he fails to do so as on lap 1 as the shell sign begins to disappear from his cockpit view he is doing 79mph on lap 1, 76mph on lap 2 but 91mph on lap 3 when the impact occurs.
For that reason it can only be a Blatant Rear End Shunt: Penalty 2 Places

As Axel recovers he drives across the racing line in front of Nigel Smith who is impeded as he brakes and turns to avoid him.
As Axel is sitting looking back along the track he can see Nigel on the approach and should sit still until Nigel has cleared him.
Inconsiderate Bad Rejoin: Penalty 1 Places
"The rejoining driver was in full control .... Contact was NOT made but other drivers had to take avoiding action.

  • Cookie (Axel Cookie)penalty — Blatant Rear End Shunt — 2 places lost (plus 1 for penalty points)
  • Cookie (Axel Cookie)penalty — Inconsiderate Bad Rejoin — 1 place lost (plus 1 for penalty points)


Server replay time: 0h06m06s

Sky attempts to take a Stop n Go but misses the pit lane and manages to get stuck on the fence.

He resets and then reverses to enter the pit lane where he takes a Stop n Go as planned, then drives 10 yards and takes another.

Thinking he has got away with it he leaves the pit lane and promptly spins. As this doesn't count as taking 2 Stop n Gos, I would add 30 seconds to his race tijme b ut he retired shortly afterwards so it would make no difference if I did.

However, no driver should reverse along the race track, Sky should have continued around and taken a Stop n Go on the following lap rather than reverse on one of the fastest parts of the race track.


Server replay time: 0h18m33s

Economia loses concentration, hits the trees and rips a wheel of before coming to rest across the track.
Paul is approaching and sees the accident happen before slowing but is unable to avoid Economia.
Economia takes a Stop n Go but misses the pit lane and takes it on track.
He should have continued around and taken it on the following lap.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h31m05s

Blito follows Norm through Island Bend, and as Norm runs wide and lifts he closes quickly before having a look up the inside of Esso Bend.
On first glance Norm appears to turn in and cover the inside as Blito makes his move, but Norm usually takes a narrow entry for some reason though not usually this narrow. His loss of control exiting the previous corner may explain his unusual line.
As Blito has no overlap at turn in, he should yield and Norm is free to take his chosen line having won the corner.

"The victim had partially lost control before contact and consequently his line was unusual. The shunter was in full control."

  • blito (Jason Blito)penalty — Simple Rear End Shunt — 1 place lost (plus 2 for penalty points)


Server replay time: 0h33m00s

NHance is recovering to the track at Cascades as Economia approaches under yellow flags.
Economia slows and spots Norm but seems to lose control perhaps expecting Norm to drive straight on to the track.
Norm sticks to the right hand side away from the racing line and still has 2 wheels on the grass but Economia drifts wide off the line and hits him.
Had Ecopnomia not lost control and strayed wide Norm would have recovered cleanly.
had Norm not been recovering Economia may have kept control and not strayed wide.
This incident is wortth watching just to see from Economia's cockpit as Norm enters low earth orbit upside down.

Thinking he has got away with it once, Norm rejoins again, but this time it is in front of Rob who has to slow to avoid him but is braking anyway for the corner. This was very close to being penalised, and had it been on a straight it would have been.

  • Racing incident

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« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2011, 09:55:50 PM +0100 »

Didn't start the race as I had a visitor at the house with 5 minutes of pratice left, was too late to join the race. Hope you all had a good race guys.
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« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2011, 10:57:12 PM +0100 »

Missed you mate. Fun race with plenty of spills and thrills. Too many spins for me though - when I kept it straight I was competitive but I spun at least ten times. Frustrating and disappointing. Shows I've moved on though as I am now disappointed to be lapped.

Well done Rog, Cookie and Hendy.
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2011, 08:34:49 AM +0100 »

Well done Rog Smiley and all other that took part.
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2011, 09:11:36 AM +0100 »

Well done the podium & particularly Rog. Rog started novices about the same time as I did & to be honest I'm getting tired of finishing lower than he does Wink
A pre race race, with B Blood & Cookie convinced me all was not well. Gearing adjusted & its sorted for a nice 4th place qually. In the race after lap 1 turn 3 I was convinced I need a lesson in defensive driving as a bump put me well down the field Sad. There followed too many incidents & near misses to mention but somehow the BT7 kept going. Finally got my defensive driving lesson on the last lap courtesy of one J Blito who blasted out of the pits right in front of me, but was so slow through turn 2 I went off avoiding him & dropped a place to Venn, aka Rotaxmax's Honda.
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2011, 10:07:02 AM +0100 »

Talked to Norm before the race and he opined that it was a matter of not getting lapped Sad

He achieved that but I didn't. You are my aim now Norm! I want to be racing you, Jason and Al regularly. Al is usually not a problem because his wife turns off his internet with 5 to go...

Meant to ask. Anyone have any connectivity issues. Saw a few discos. Server OK for continued use next year if we do go three divisions?
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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2011, 11:44:54 AM +0100 »

Grats to Rog for his win by constant driving without mistakes!

Sorry to Sky, whose leading position was torpedoed when I met his rear into ESSO bend on lap 3.
I reported it!

With some training I finaly found the groove of this track.
In quali I was surprised by the excellent times done by Sky, Rog and Norm, so I had to go out again and do a real hot lap   Roll Eyes

Starting from pole, I could only hold my lead until Druids corner where Sky caught me. I followed him close til this incident in lap 3.
Rog could pass there and kept the lead to  the finish line.
I was faster, but when I nearly reached him I hit the bush inside Druids corner, that brought me behind Hendy.
We had a nice battle til Hendy did his mistake, so I was able to keep my 2nd position to the finish line.

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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2011, 11:51:44 AM +0100 »

To whoever is moderating that race, can i get the penalty points for that? I want to get atleast something from that race... Pleaze? Pleeaze?
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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2011, 12:25:20 PM +0100 »

To whoever is moderating that race, can i get the penalty points for that? I want to get atleast something from that race... Pleaze? Pleeaze?

Don't be sarcastic Sky  Tongue

You have a good chance to win the Keimola race, if you keep this performance!
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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2011, 01:08:11 PM +0100 »

This result is wrong. I was in sixth place until eight laps to go. Suddenly the pribluda started to give completely wrong information about the race. I finished the race in 6th, not 11th.
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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2011, 01:11:18 PM +0100 »

Thanks DF. I'll take a look and put it right. It may be a few days though.
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« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2011, 01:57:53 PM +0100 »

Somehow, DF got out of synch with the server... I noticed he effectively lost a lap from somehow, dropping from 6th to 11th without actually going off etc...

As for my race.. well, I was a little wild out there! I had potential for some cracking pace but somehow I just couldnt hold it together and made one mistake after the other... the only good thing about my race was terrorizing Norm whilst passing him.... and spinning....and passing him..... and spinning..and.... well you get the idea Cheesy
I must saw I was mighty proud of my last lap pit exit... I came out of the pits knowing its a very short blast to Old Hall Corner and so moved towards the middle of the track which means of course that all Norm could do was drop anchor as there aint no way round the outside at Old Hall.... As Norm himself put it, a lesson in defensive driving without crossing the line and becoming reckless...as for my being slow in T2, think of it this way Norm.. on cold tyres and full tanks was I ever going to steam into T2 any faster? In anycase, you were pushing too fast into Cascades (t2) and loosing time all the way down to Island bend... slow in fast out etc!
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« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2011, 08:50:43 PM +0100 »

I have adjusted the finishing positions to reinstate DuFossa to sixth. I have had to give him a nominal finishing time halfway between Nigel and Jason.

Can I remind all drivers that saving the Client replay can really help out in sorting out these kind of problems. The server replay is not infallible.
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« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2011, 02:47:44 PM +0100 »

 Cookie Congratulations!!'s Novice Champion!!

 It was the most regular rider on the podium and this is very important for a champion.

 Unfortunately my PC shut down before Qualy, end then it did not work, so could not join the race.But that's like a mechanical problem in race.

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« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2011, 03:51:43 PM +0100 »

Modding first Jonny! Might have to throw Cookie out for being too consistent... Even if he does lose some points you will have to go some to catch him. See you at Keimola.
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« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2011, 03:54:01 PM +0100 »

Yep Paul!

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