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August 28, 2011, 10:14:12 PM +0100 - Spa (GPL) - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Privateers (67)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Ronniepeterson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 2 +0.523
157.528mph
1 51:00.103
154.601mph
15 3:22.577
155.692mph
Firestone  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 4 +2.867
155.705mph
2 +19.002
153.647mph
15 3:20.720
157.133mph
Firestone  
Ross Neilson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 3 +1.898
156.453mph
3 +25.635
153.317mph
15 3:22.338
155.876mph
Goodyear  
Rainier
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 10 +5.651
153.594mph
4 +1:03.596
151.454mph
15 3:23.552
154.947mph
Goodyear  
Michael Turner
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 8 +5.068
154.031mph
5 +1:06.437
151.316mph
15 3:24.372
154.325mph
Firestone  
b_1_rd
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 5 +4.208
154.681mph
6 +1:49.544
149.258mph
15 3:24.100
154.531mph
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 13 +17.008
145.544mph
8 +1L
142.861mph
14 3:34.757
146.862mph
Firestone  
hannah
 
Honda RA300 F1 1967 14 +23.873
141.075mph
9 +3:52.855
132.852mph
14 3:43.128
141.353mph
Firestone  
s2173
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 1 3:19.694
157.940mph
10 +2L
153.331mph
13 3:23.714
154.823mph
Disco
Firestone  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 6 +4.300
154.611mph
11 +1:19.918
148.881mph
13 3:24.818
153.989mph
Disco
Firestone  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 9 +5.394
153.786mph
12 +3L
144.401mph
12 3:25.148
153.741mph
Disco
Firestone  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 11 +6.695
152.817mph
13 +4L
150.512mph
11 3:21.685
156.381mph
Disco
Goodyear  
miner2049er
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 15 +34.315
134.780mph
14 +14L
109.806mph
1 4:37.883
113.500mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 12 +6.964
152.618mph
15 +15L
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0 ---
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Disco
Firestone  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 16 16 DNS ---
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Firestone  
HendyNichols
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 7 +4.611
154.376mph
Excluded +0L
145.343mph
15 3:26.388
152.818mph
Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

Everyone who reset took a Stop and Go but there was one transgression (see below).
The lap one review was only to Malmedy for this race and was all clear.


Server replay time: 0h32m56s

Blito closes with a view to lapping Hannah. He can see, from a distance, he is much quicker. Into the corner Jason chooses to pass to the right, although there was more room to the left. The server shows no contact at all and a small gap, no client replays are available.
Hannah cannot be said to have done anything erratic here and does not appear to be preventing Blito from passing.
With no contact, and actual contact being unlikely, the rules have this;

"Genuine Warp Incident: No penalty - Racing Incident
Prior to the warp incident, the following car was driving no closer than a car's length from the leading car but then closed up under braking, possibly due to the leading car braking early, but no actual contact would have been made."

As an aside, when submitting incident reports, please put the actual time of the incident rather then a 'lap so and so'. It creates extra work for the moderator to find it, especially on a long circuit such as Spa. We cannot guarantee incidents will be reviewed where no specific time is provided.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h44m14s

Having done a reset at 38m54s Hendy then takes a second reset.
The rules are unequivocal about this;
"Any driver taking more then ONE Shift-R OR failing to take a Stop & Go will be disqualified from the race result."

August 28, 2011, 10:58:10 PM +0100 - Spa (GPL) - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Works (67)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 5 +3.839
158.323mph
1 51:09.448
154.104mph
15 3:20.821
157.027mph
Firestone  
Arf Arf Arf
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 4 +2.953
159.031mph
2 +9.383
153.635mph
15 3:19.452
158.105mph
Goodyear  
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 2 +0.537
160.992mph
3 +3L
121.629mph
12 3:19.494
158.072mph
Disco
Firestone  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 6 +5.383
157.105mph
4 +10L
153.835mph
5 3:21.563
156.449mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Artiglietti
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 1 3:15.338
161.435mph
5 +14L
154.775mph
1 3:25.213
153.666mph
Disco
Firestone  
Baab
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 3 +2.601
159.314mph
6 +15L
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0 ---
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accident
Firestone  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 7 +5.972
156.646mph
7
---
0 ---
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accident
Goodyear  
john roberts
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 9 8
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0 ---
---
Disco
Goodyear  
8 GPG
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 8 9 DNS ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

No reported incidents. For lap one, moderation was only to the end of Malmedy which was all clear.
That's it, all done.

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« on: August 24, 2011, 10:38:52 PM +0100 »

Round nine and it's off to Belgium for the classic Spa circuit, has everyone been saving up their tokens? In the Privateers, and being no mathematician, I'm pretty sure Ronnie already has it wrapped up although other positions are up for grabs. Over in Works Hristo leads by a margin but I think Fulvio still has a possible shout.

The Works will run on PRO Damage and Privateers will run on Intermediate Damage with the allowance of ONE shift-R reset. No Shift-Rs are allowed in practice unless authorized by the moderator. A Shift-R (fault or not) MUST be followed by a Stop & Go. A Shift-R for tyres/fuel is not allowed. Any driver taking more then ONE Shift-R OR failing to take a Stop & Go will be disqualified from the race result.

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Works = UKGPL_Gpg
IP address = 62.195.32.131
Privateers = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 28-08-2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Spa (67)
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = Works; PRO / Privateers; INT
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 50 minutes (laps 15)
Password: see above

Driver lists can be found on the Works or Privateers championship standings pages.
The track can be downloaded from : papy original
Add-on’s available at : http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=143

NOTE:
In view of the track distance the initial full moderation will only apply from the start to the end of Malmedy on lap one.

Please be in IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:50 pm UK Time

Reserve drivers should not join the server(s) until there are only 30 minutes of qualifying left. Please restrict chat to pit messages. Moderating will be by reported incidents only, however the moderators reserve the right to review any incident with a particular emphasis on lap one. The aim is to review the race the following weekend so incident reports should be submitted within five days of the race (ie the following Friday). We're hopeful most incidents can be resolved amicably and recommend a days deep breath with a replay review before posting. A sorry in the forum won't be taken as an automatic admission of guilt by the moderators. There will be FULL moderation of lap one regardless of whether you submit an incident report.
The Works will run on PRO Damage and Privateers will run on Intermediate Damage with the allowance of ONE shift-R reset. No Shift-Rs are allowed in practice unless authorized by the moderator. A Shift-R (fault or not) MUST be followed by a Stop & Go. A Shift-R for tyres/fuel is not allowed. Any driver taking more then ONE Shift-R OR failing to take a Stop & Go will be disqualified from the race result.

With the token system chassis strategy will be a factor. A driver must have sufficient tokens for the chassis he drives in the race.  Any driver who does not have sufficient tokens will be disqualified from the result and his tokens will be set to zero.

Chassis costs;
Lotus 20 / Eagle 17 / Ferrari 15 / Brabham 10 / Cooper 5 / Honda 3 / BRM 0

To see your current tokens hover your mouse over your total points on the Works or Privateers championship standings pages. Ten tokens will be added when you cross the start line.

There are two 67 Championships, namely Works and Privateers. The driver split will be;

WORKS drivers
Arf Arf Arf    
Baab  
Beefpie    
Evil Clive    
Fulvio Policardi        
Tim FMG  
Hristo Itchov    
ivandjj    
John Roberts    
Rick Nauman    
Sam B    
Tom van O    
Jethro W    
Karliss (R)    
Will Tway (R)    
Goran Jonsson (R)  
Artigliette (R)    
   
   
   
   

PRIVATEERS drivers
Bernie      
Billy    
Blito    
Hannah    
Fabio L    
Mike T    
Mike (miner)    
Nigel Smith      
Ronnie P    
Ross N    
Skymole 2173    
Vosblod    
Paul (Badblood) (R)  
Steve Bird (R)  
Happy Al (R)  
PaulWBird (R)  
Martin (Maddog)  
Geoff Heard  
Dave Rainier (R)    
Allan Davis (R)  
   

67 Patch: The 1.3 Release of the 67mod can be used.

NOTE: Please ensure you join the correct server, due to the way we import if you start the race on the wrong server your result will not count.

REPLAYS
Privateers server replays will be posted in the usual place after the event. Works will now be posted at http://grandprix.xs4all.nl/ . When downloading please check the timetable for other races and DO NOT download while another race is being run.

Designed by Jules de Their and Henri Langlois Van Ophem, the original 15 km (9.3 mile) triangle-shaped course used public roads between the Belgian towns of Francorchamps, Malmedy and Stavelot. The Belgian Grand Prix was held at Spa-Francorchamps for the first time in 1924. Eighteen Formula One World Championship Grands Prix were run on the Spa-Francorchamps circuit's original configuration, which was boycotted by F1 in 1968, before the revised circuit banished it to the history books in the late 70s. Over the years, the Spa course has been modified several times. The biggest change saw the circuit being shortened from 14 km (8.7 miles) to 7 km (4.35 miles) in 1979. Since inception, the place has been famous for its unpredictable weather. Frequently drivers are confronted with one part of the course being clear and bright while another stretch is rainy and slippery. The circuit probably demonstrates the importance of driver skill more than any other in the world. This is largely due to the Eau Rouge and Blanchimont corners, both of which need to be taken as cleanly as possible to achieve a fast run onto the straights after them, which aids a driver in both a fast lap and in over-taking.
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2011, 12:21:01 PM +0100 »

GPG server set for 15 laps Long race.
T7_2 already is.
Ciao
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2011, 12:28:14 PM +0100 »

Many thanks Fulvio.
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2011, 05:08:14 PM +0100 »

Not going to make this so I relinquish my hopes of third in the championship.

I may be home to sneak over the line and pick up tokens for the final race.
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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2011, 10:20:29 PM +0100 »

Tragic race for me.  I had connection issues in qual but managed a half decent lap.  Took it easy from start and chickened out of several chances.  Unfortunately I then spun in a fast section and Sam hit me and we both retired upside down.  Don't think there was anything you could do Sam so sorry about ruining your race.  I must have been in the slippy part towards the edge...or on the grass...gutted.

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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2011, 10:33:24 PM +0100 »

After others misfortune, Arf spun at Le Combes and H lost some cylinders, but still running at the moment in 3rd, I got the lead on Clive. At six lap engine popped nonetheless I was babying it Sad
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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2011, 11:32:34 PM +0100 »

This was an enjoyable race for me despite the fact I don't really like Spa. I qualified third which was about right and although Bernie beat me off the line he went wide at Les Combes and I settled in behind Ronnie and Sky.

My race was a case of being quick enough for second, but just making little mistakes every time I got close, and dropping back again. With two to go I was closing on Sky when I went wide at Stavelot and let Bernie through. Sky then blew his engine restoring my podium spot, but I didn't have enough time to catch Bernie again. Still not a bad result after the disaster at Sandown.

Well done Sky on pole and Bernie for a canny run to second. Biggest grats to Ronnie though who took the title with a fine win.
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2011, 11:38:15 PM +0100 »

Tragic race for me.  I had connection issues in qual but managed a half decent lap.  Took it easy from start and chickened out of several chances.  Unfortunately I then spun in a fast section and Sam hit me and we both retired upside down.  Don't think there was anything you could do Sam so sorry about ruining your race.  I must have been in the slippy part towards the edge...or on the grass...gutted.

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No worries Bob, it happens. I should have reacted more quickly to be honest but I really had no idea where your car was going as it was spinning so violently. I took my chance and darted to the middle of the track. Turned out to be a foolhardy decision from me  Roll Eyes.

That race was a missed opportunity. I made 3 places on the opening lap and with H retiring, a possible win was for the taking but sadly it was not to be. I had a similar accident in S17 at Spa. I think the circuit just doesn't like me  Wink. Congrats to Clive for a fine win. To finish first, first you must finish, as they say.
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2011, 12:02:41 AM +0100 »

That race was a missed opportunity. I made 3 places on the opening lap and with H retiring, a possible win was for the taking but sadly it was not to be.

Who said I retired?  Grin

Now that I see this division doesn't have the 50% race distance rule though, maybe I should have...  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2011, 01:53:41 AM +0100 »

That race was a missed opportunity. I made 3 places on the opening lap and with H retiring, a possible win was for the taking but sadly it was not to be.

Who said I retired?  Grin

Now that I see this division doesn't have the 50% race distance rule though, maybe I should have...  Roll Eyes

but you do have to pay for the car in tokens so i believe that in some ways negates the 50% rules
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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2011, 02:48:06 AM +0100 »

Yeah, but I mean I could've retired right after Fulvio did and spare myself doing 8-9 laps on half the cylinders, lol. On the other hand, it was an interesting experience and gave me a more detailed view of Spa corners, which might come in handy.  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2011, 08:22:22 AM +0100 »

Well, as I said, all good things come to a (quick) end, or so they say..Took advantage of the thin grid and of Hristo's self inflicted Honda to snatch pole, survived a long first gear and a wobble at T2 to keep the lead, at the beginning of the second lap the engine started spluttering and I realised half of my horsepower had ran away in the bushes, and that was it. Watching the (short) replay I was actually wringing the neck of the thing and more often than not hitting the red bar while shifting, so I suppose it serves me well, although I always feel theres more than an element of randomness in these early engine pops. So, who said pro mode was cool around here again Roll Eyes?!

Pity I didnt stay on with the half cylindered Ferrari though, I could have had a 'smokey' scrap with H othewise  Grin Grin!

Grats to Clive for a wisewazawin and to H for the championship, see you at the next one  Smiley.

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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2011, 11:29:38 AM +0100 »

I personally think, the Ukgpl drivers association, shouldv'e gotten together, to boycot this race.  It's too dangerous!  To me, Spa consists of minutes of boredom, interspersed with moments of terror!  And they often relate to, moments of error, which often lead to car lightening experiments, which only lead to disappointment. 

Without a decent 180mph draft, I started from a reluctant, mid-grid.  Then, for the second race in a row, 1st lap, I left a left side wheel a few inches beyond it's traction.  It was 'mestup'.  The car snapped around, and splattered off into the side of a house, which some fool had carelessly left there!  To my surprise, most of the following pack stopped by, to offer their condolences - arriving in their one's and two's.  It is said that imitation, is the sincerest form of flattery, so I was flattered, as well as splattered!  Angry

I reassembled, with race already ruined, and clocked in some laps, in a sort of high speed trundle.

One moment of terror, was heading down towards l'Eau Rouge, while lapping Hannah, who'd kindly backed off, to let me by.  I chose to squeeze left, then chose to brush both walls, while entering the corner, without slowing to extract the debris.  But aside from a few such scares, nothing happened rather rapidly. Right up until I ended it all, by throwing myself at the armco, approaching la Source, with just a couple of laps to go.

It seems more entertainment was had, towards the front, with a good scrap for second.  While at the head of the class, it's another superb win from Ray, our worthy champion.  But, as predicted, for some of us on this day, havoc reaped it's revenge !
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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2011, 12:41:01 PM +0100 »

More frustration for me on a very mixed weekend. After Friday's PSC disaster I was very (too..) cautious off the grid and 2 or 3 cars got past. Then there was a terrifying few seconds as we passed Baab and Samb doing their synchronised death dance.

I was then very surprised that the pit boards told me I was 3rd and then 2nd as I hadn't seen any incidents to account for the others who'd been just a bit in front of me. However it was all too much excitement for me, and I made a stupid mistake to spin at Les Combes and that let Fulvio or Clive through with the other right behind me. I overcooked it through Malmedy and ended up on top of the hedge on the left. This was nearly game over, and it took me 30/40 seconds to get the car back on the tarmac, by which time everyone else had disappeared.

After that I was just trying to chase down Clive, the only remaining runner (with full power). I kept quoting James May from Top Gear from the episode where they try to take old supercars to a lap dance club - "Come on Hammond (Clive), do the decent thing, and run out of petrol"**  Grin

However, not only didn't he do this, he was mostly matching my pace, so that was it really. Most impressive thing of the night was how many laps Hristo's car could p**s oil and smoke  into the atmosphere without exploding. I knew he was just waiting for Fulvio to retire and therefore secure the championship - congrats for that!

I should have been faster than Clive, and indeed lap times back this up, but I need to improve my race-craft, and that's where Clive was stronger. I still feel that was defeat snatched from the jaws of victory though. As Jeremy Clarkson said in same episode referenced above, "I was expecting to finish the evening in a different sort of hedge"......

Apologies to those for whom the TG references will be meaningless...

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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2011, 01:00:06 PM +0100 »

I have to confess that Spa has never been one of my favourite circuits. I just cannot hook up a good lap around here.
Hristo posted a 3:15 in qually and although I never profess to be as fast as Hristo, I would normally have hoped to be able to get within a couple of seconds on a banzai lap, but not at Spa!!
Despite running a low fuel quali setup and taking the engine revs over the suicidal 11k mark in all gears, I barely managed to break the 3:20 laptime. Just where I lose 5 secs is a mystery to me, as I am flat out just about everywhere and pulling 198mph before Masta and exiting that treacherous bend at around 175-180mph??
So I started almost at the back of the small grid surrounded by Eagles, Brabhams and Lotus....this is not looking very promising  Undecided

i got a good start and jumped one car before Eau Rouge ( always a risky move!!) and survived to press on towards les Coombes with Samb's Brabham snapping at my heels. He was obviously quicker and was able to use my slipstream down towards Masta to pass. I was not going to contest that move on Lap1 with cold tyres and eased of to be sure of a clean line. Fulvio was behind in an Eagle and making his usual calm start but building up his speed.
Bab and Samb mamaged to finish their race early by mutual consent and I was up to 4th momentarily, but I lost momentum by going on the grass to avoid their melee and Fulvio swept through. I decided to press on as 4th place might net me some nice points if I could survive the next 14 laps. Fulvio was getting away but only slowly and I could not push any harder in the fuel heavy Honda without melting the rear tyres so I did my best to keep Fulvio in sight even if I could not challenge him.
Then we passed Arf parked just after Les Coombes ...3rd place??? and Fulvio was still just about in sight.  I had thought that Arf had trashed his car but was to realise later that he was still very much in the race.

Then Shock!! Horror!! the gap to Hristo who had been miles in front, was reducing rapidly and I saw the smoke before I saw the stricken Waza on the run up to Les Coombes....2nd!!! and Fulvio was just visible at certain points of the track.

About 11 laps still to go and some nice points on offer, if I could protect the Waza mobile and its tyres. The fuel level had reduced and I was able to push a little harder without heating the tyres quite so much and the gap to Fulvio stabilised But I was still very careful to keep the revs below 11K and the engine temp below 250F.

Then I see Fulvio running very slowly down towards Stavelot!! his engine had blown and I was now in 1st!!! and not even half distance!! Shocked. Arf had got himself going but was still a long way behind and I did not know if he had suffered any damage or if he was still able to run at his qually speed, because with about 9-10 laps left to go he could be closing at approx 4 secs a lap!! Hristo had obviously opted to trundle around in the hope of picking up some valuable points for 3rd place, so the race was now between Arf and myself...and there was a long way still to go.

The next few laps involved a lot of "prib watching" at certain points of the track to see where Arf was closing, and by how much per lap. After 2-3 laps it became clear that he was gaining, but at a rate that might not be quick enough to catch me before the flag. Except of course that once he got a sniff of slipstream the last few hundred metres of advantage that I had would vanish. So I was forced toup my pace slightly and still watch the tyre temps.
Lap after lap he gradually closed and with about 4 to go I passed the pits thinking " I've done enough he cannot catch me now, if I just maintain a steady pace!"...........then I promptly relaxed, forgot about the overheated tyres and screwed up Eau Rouge totally!! I was fired out over the crest and flung into the barbed wire fence, but miraculously suffered no damage. BUT! the gap was halved and now I was in serious trouble if I wanted to win this race.

I tied another knot on my fundoshi, lowered my white headband a little more over my eyes and launched the Wazamobile up towards Les Coombes!! If Arf wanted the win he was going to have to fight for it!!
The next lap was crucial, I had to prevent Arf getting his faster car anywhere near my slipstream, so I pushed hard but without stressing the engine trying to carry more speed through the bends after Stavelot up to La Source. I think luck was with me because Arf must have had an incident of his own as the gap suddenly grew by a few hundred metres and that was all I needed  Wink
My penultimate lap was the fastest of the race for me and I was able to back off and cruise the last lap to the flag and a totally unexpected win at a track I still don't like!!

Grats to Arf for keeping the pressure on and to Hristo for dragging his Honda around to a Championship winning 3rd place.

Looking forward to racing on a proper circuit next time......where are we going?



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Evil Waza, now a completely reformed character!

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