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« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2014, 11:26:32 AM +0000 » |
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The annoying restart requests were not quite as annoying as looking forward to the race then being taken out in the first lap carnage. Just my point of view, not blaming anyone but in certain situations maybe a restart would be justified.
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« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2014, 11:41:05 AM +0000 » |
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I didn't take anyone out on purpose, it was an accident, but please don't stop because of one mistake.
I have banned myself for being useless so you should all have a safer race next time without me.
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« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2014, 11:51:42 AM +0000 » |
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Even in F1 these things happen It's a learning lesson, an unfortunate event, but one that shouldn't stop anybody racing. I don't think immediate restarts are a great idea either. Do we all qualify again? have a random grid etc.? Not to mention it might make someone think "if I cause enough grief then it won't matter there is a restart".
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« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2014, 12:50:44 PM +0000 » |
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When you agree to a restart session it restarts that session, qualify results all remain as is and you just start the race again..
It was me who voted to restart, accident or not it wiped out loads of people so it seemed warrented to just quickly restart and try again.
I can see the point about people just thinking 'oh it doesnt matter, we will get a restart' but who out of all of us who race thinks like that? Id hope nobody does. Restart should be used on the rare occasion (and it is rare as we are all pretty clean) that somethin happens within the forst couple corners. After that no.
If it was me id issue race bans for the person who causes a big accident on the first corner.. Cause a crash on the first corner you miss the next race.
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« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2014, 12:52:37 PM +0000 » |
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Championship table updated. Please let me know if there's an error.
Sutol and Chris Thorpe are the same person. Obliged to you sir. Table updated to suit.
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« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2014, 01:01:18 PM +0000 » |
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If there were a big collision at the rear end of the field on the first corner, I don't think there would be a "re start" call, just my opinion. I really enjoyed the race Hope to enjoy next weeks as well, it's racing, things don't always go to plan, it would be very boring if it did.
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« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2014, 01:35:27 PM +0000 » |
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Don't ban yourself Sharky, your well enough known as an experienced clean racer. If you got on the grass there was no way in hell of stopping the car in time. Just an accident as you have said. If there is any incidents caused by reckless driving then surely we can just use the 'report an incident' part of the forum and then it can be reviewed independently by moderators on here as per any other series.
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« Reply #37 on: December 04, 2014, 01:44:36 PM +0000 » |
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Don't ban yourself Sharky, your well enough known as an experienced clean racer. If you got on the grass there was no way in hell of stopping the car in time. Just an accident as you have said. The good of the many outweighs the needs of the one.
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« Reply #38 on: December 04, 2014, 02:34:59 PM +0000 » |
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My opinion on L1 T1 situation. Watched reply. Sharky, you did a nice start and went to the right and you just came back a bit to late, braked a bit late and than you were almost forced to the grass by the white car in front. You just tapped the grass with the right wheels and that was enough to loose control. If that would not happen you would be fine. All could be avoided if you would not be so greedy and would take the safe approach and slot back of the white car. That said i think it was an honest mistake that doesn't deserve such "drama". In the end you hit only one car by trying your best to avoid others than i could react a bit different instead of stopping on the track that than created chain crash. Not organizing races and Sharky banning himself. Isn't that a bit to much? I'm sort of speak outsider to his forum, so i know it's not really my thing to judge or to tell what you should do, but i'm saying please consider it. Was a nice race for me anyway. Had quite some damage from T1 but i was trying to hold i think it was P3. Animated cough me and tried a move in Parabolica (last turn). A bit of a dive bomb and you lost front grip, and directly to my rear wheels. It happens. I tough i gave more room than i saw on reply later. Was afraid to go wide and to the gravel. When we rejoined i din't slow down because i wanted you to pass me but because i had damage on rear right suspension and car started to wobble. You slowed down because you didn't want to overtake me after what happened. That all most created a huge crash for you because when i touched the brakes the car snapped and i lost all control sniping to the left wall right in front of you. I was sure you'll collect me but you didn't. Enjoined being chased down by you, next time we'll reverse the roles Hopefully i'll pass you cleanly hehe
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« Reply #39 on: December 04, 2014, 02:54:33 PM +0000 » |
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Not organizing races and Sharky banning himself. Isn't that a bit to much?
Hear, hear. Stuff happens but racing must go on If Shark's skills are insufficient for racing here mine are too. He is twice the virtual racer I'll ever be.
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« Reply #40 on: December 04, 2014, 03:39:37 PM +0000 » |
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He is twice the virtual racer I'll ever be.
Hope you're not calling me fat!
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« Reply #41 on: December 04, 2014, 03:50:58 PM +0000 » |
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LOL - never dream of it. I was referring to you skillz
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« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2014, 05:44:54 PM +0000 » |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racing_flags#Red_flagIn the event of a bad start, the yellow and red flags may be displayed together, or a unique diagonally divided red and yellow flag can be displayed, to indicate a restart. Drivers will go back to their starting positions and line up for another start. This is rarely used where computer scoring is involved, and can create much confusion as the drivers attempt to get back in order. AC doesn't have flags, not sure if thats something coming for the future Did GT come back with a coffee
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« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2014, 06:45:28 PM +0000 » |
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And so another day Erik, congrats on another win Would you please pick a Ferrari for Imola (one that we can all drive this time please ). No bans here or self bans or restarts unless the server drops. This is supposed to be fun and drivers first priority should be to not spoil other drivers fun. We've had far too many incidents in these races and this needs to change.
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« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2014, 06:59:01 PM +0000 » |
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