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August 21, 2008, 08:57:25 PM +0100 - Oulton Park (Island) - UKGTL Season 6 Season 6 GT Classics Cup
Driver
 Team		 Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Steve Holmes
 Legends Racing		 Ford Mustang (#892) TC-65 D2 3 +0.055
80.829mph		 1 38:10.386
79.442mph		 23 1:38.292
80.485mph
Dunlop  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS		 Lotus Cortina (#955) TC-65 D2 1 1:37.818
80.875mph		 2 +1.161
79.402mph		 23 1:37.948
80.767mph
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers		 Ford Falcon (#872) TC-65 D2 2 +0.032
80.848mph		 3 +4.553
79.285mph		 23 1:38.329
80.454mph
Dunlop  
GardO
 		 Ford Mustang (#896) TC-65 D2 8 +1.071
79.999mph		 4 +16.520
78.873mph		 23 1:38.972
79.932mph
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Legends Racing		 Ford Falcon (#200803) TC-65 D2 9 +1.112
79.966mph		 5 +18.522
78.805mph		 23 1:38.714
80.141mph
Dunlop  
baracus250gt
 Ghostspeed		 Ford Mustang (#896) TC-65 D2 4 +0.064
80.822mph		 6 +20.417
78.740mph		 23 1:38.302
80.477mph
Dunlop  
mr_oily
 Prodigy Racing		 Lotus Cortina (#205702) TC-65 D2 6 +0.304
80.624mph		 7 +28.542
78.464mph		 23 1:38.233
80.533mph
Dunlop  
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed		 Lotus Cortina (#924) TC-65 D2 11 +1.240
79.862mph		 8 +28.933
78.451mph		 23 1:39.455
79.544mph
Dunlop  
stnasky
 Team RVS		 Ford Mustang (#890) TC-65 D2 5 +0.296
80.631mph		 9 +29.655
78.427mph		 23 1:38.708
80.146mph
Dunlop  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers		 Ford Falcon (#825) TC-65 D2 10 +1.140
79.943mph		 10 +1:10.569
77.068mph		 23 1:39.203
79.746mph
Dunlop  
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing		 Lotus Cortina (#201421) TC-65 D2 16 +2.033
79.228mph		 11 +1:19.036
76.792mph		 23 1:40.280
78.889mph
Dunlop  
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers		 Lotus Cortina (#913) TC-65 D2 12 +1.577
79.592mph		 12 +1:19.226
76.786mph		 23 1:39.724
79.329mph
Dunlop  
evert blommert
 Dutch Turtles		 Lotus Cortina (#961) TC-65 D2 18 +2.468
78.884mph		 13 (+2) +1:35.460
76.264mph		 23 1:40.780
78.498mph
Dunlop  
spanner
 Prodigy Racing		 Lotus Cortina (#205702) TC-65 D2 14 +1.705
79.489mph		 14 +1:55.243
75.636mph		 23 1:40.282
78.888mph
Dunlop  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing		 Lotus Cortina (#201421) TC-65 D2 21 +3.749
77.890mph		 15 +1L
75.551mph		 22 1:41.325
78.076mph
Dunlop  
API
 		 Lotus Cortina (#924) TC-65 D2 24 +5.106
76.863mph		 16 +21.970
74.837mph		 22 1:42.137
77.455mph
Dunlop  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club		 Ford Falcon (#872) TC-65 D2 23 +4.752
77.128mph		 17 +26.482
74.693mph		 22 1:42.807
76.950mph
Dunlop  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing		 Ford Falcon (#825) TC-65 D2 20 +3.574
78.024mph		 18 22 1:39.732
79.323mph		 suspension
Dunlop  
Spadowski
 		 Ford Mustang (#890) TC-65 D2 26 +6.395
75.912mph		 19 +2L
71.479mph		 21 1:42.242
77.375mph
Dunlop  
jimmer
 		 Ford Falcon (#872) TC-65 D2 25 +5.914
76.264mph		 20 +24.818
70.724mph		 21 1:44.890
75.422mph
Dunlop  
Sandor M
 Gentlemen Drivers Club		 Ford Falcon (#872) TC-65 D2 15 +1.849
79.374mph		 21 +4L 19 1:40.972
78.349mph		 suspension
Dunlop  
Tibernius
 Prodigy Racing		 Ford Mustang (#809) TC-65 D2 19 +3.009
78.461mph		 22 +10L 13 1:43.244
76.624mph		 unknown
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Prodigy Racing		 Ford Mustang (#892) TC-65 D2 17 +2.071
79.198mph		 23 +13L 10 1:41.084
78.262mph		 unknown
Dunlop  
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing		 Lotus Cortina (#205266) TC-65 D2 13 +1.608
79.567mph		 24 +15L 8 1:41.293
78.100mph		 unknown
Dunlop  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers		 Ford Mustang (#809) TC-65 D2 22 +4.277
77.487mph		 25 +18L 5 1:43.106
76.727mph		 suspension
Dunlop  
phspok
 		 Ford Falcon (#872) TC-65 D2 7 +0.887
80.148mph		 +23L 0 ---
---		 unknown
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 206s

Spanner passes Sandor at the hairpin but the Falcons power sees Sandor back infront by the braking zone for the chicane.
Sandor does move back over to the racing line a little too soon and almost imediately has to hit the brakes for the turn. This gave Spanner little or no time to react and the inevitable rear contact occured.
This incident would have been avoidable if Sandor had stayed on the line he had passed on and not moved back over to the racing line directly in front of Spanner.

Server replay time: 862s

Dan is lapping Jimmer (racepace) and catches him on the aproach to the hairpin. Dan goes to the right to make the pass but Jimmer seems to lose the rear end of his car slightly and this sends him to the right also.
Just an unfortunate event that ended with no harm done to either party.

Racing incident.

  • Racing incident

Server replay time: 897s

Sandor, in a falcon, was much faster down the s/f straight than Legzy but did not gain quite enough on him to attempt a pass before T1. Sandor seemed to realise this a little late and hit the brakes in an attempt to avoid contact, but he had left it a little late and clipped the rear quarter of Legzy's car.
No damage was done and Legzy kept his place.

Server replay time: 1047s

Not quite as simple this one.
Again Sandor is faster aproaching the chicane and brakes slightly later to get on the inside of Legzy. Whilst this move was possibly not the ideal place to try an outbraking manouver in a Falcon vs a 'Tina, Sandor does actually get around 1/3 overlap legitimately and therefore has every right to be where he was.
Legzy actually moves right, almost blocking Sandors move, a fair bit earlier than he has done on previous or following laps and turns onto the apex normally leaving no room whatsoever for Sandor and forcing him into the tyre wall.
**NOTE**
Passing and being passed appoaching corners, the critical moment is the turn in point, not the braking point. The earlier the overlap the better, of course, but if the intent is telegraphed with an early move and a reasonable overlap achieved before the lead car gets to the point where it has to turn in, that should be good enough in a gentlemanly racing environment.

  • Legzy — caution — Closing the door on a car with overlap
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded

Server replay time: 1344s

Racepace is being lapped by Ade (who gives him a nudge in the chicane). Rp accelerates away normally and starts to move to the right when he realises Ade is still there, so he straightens up and lifts slightly to allow the slower accelerating car through.
This move caught Syd a little by suprise and he tagged the rear of RP's car sending him onto the grass. Syd then moves wide and accelerates away but unfortunately gets a wheel on the grass which sends him into a spin. Both Geoffers and RP are close and have to slow substantially to avoid Syd's car.
Evert is aproaching up the hill under full acceleration but shows no sign (no lift/braking etc) of any awareness or caution to the incident ahead and runs full tilt into the back of RP.

Racepace, whilst trying to do the right thing by assisting a lapping car through, caused a few other problems with his actions. ONLY lift off when it is safe to do so....unfortunately, the lapping car will just have to wait :)

Upto then I would consider this a racing incident.
However Evert's lack of caution must be penalised...regardless of who may be the initial cause of an incident you CANNOT aproach an incident under full throttle causing additional mayhem.

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« Reply #60 on: August 21, 2008, 05:31:20 PM +0100 »
So it's all 4 wheels on the tarmac?
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« Reply #61 on: August 21, 2008, 05:35:00 PM +0100 »
EEEEESSSSHHHHHH

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KEEP TWO WHEELS ON THE TARMAC AT ALL TIMES.

the rest is up to you.
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« Reply #62 on: August 21, 2008, 05:40:28 PM +0100 »
Quote from: psuedo on August 21, 2008, 05:35:00 PM +0100
EEEEESSSSHHHHHH

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KEEP TWO WHEELS ON THE TARMAC AT ALL TIMES.

the rest is up to you.

Just double checking since SBG's quote from the rules seems to say it's 4 wheels on the tarmac.
That and I get confused easily. wacko
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« Reply #63 on: August 21, 2008, 05:49:38 PM +0100 »
Confusion is only a state of mind.... blink stupid
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« Reply #64 on: August 21, 2008, 06:49:11 PM +0100 »
Quote from: ginsters sponsored on August 21, 2008, 05:27:33 PM +0100
Quote from rules - "Drivers are strongly discouraged from the deliberate placing of one or more wheels on areas of grass, gravel and sand." Therefore I would consider deliberately putting two wheel on the grass, through the left bit of chicane as naughty and to be discouraged. Especially as you can gain much time by doing it.

I'm more worried about crashing there than any cutting to be honest Smiley

I agree and at the risk of being an arse, I won't be backward in coming forward if I feel I have lost out as a result!?  Wink
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« Reply #65 on: August 21, 2008, 07:34:16 PM +0100 »
Am loving the consistent approach from the mods Grin

So i'm completely confused.

I've been finding that if you touch the kerb on the right it always seems to launch you so i found two wheels on the tarmac, straddling the LH curb was the safest way through. But i guess we will see after when the reports come in Grin
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« Reply #66 on: August 21, 2008, 07:51:04 PM +0100 »
Hey, what do you want...it's a bit of a grey area.....and SBG is white, I'm Black...mix us together and Presto.....everything is black and white....mixed. laugh
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« Reply #67 on: August 21, 2008, 08:33:12 PM +0100 »
Was going to be pretty much at the back of the grid and when folks started having problems at the end of practice and I myself got a CTD decided to call it a night as I'm knackered anyway. Hope everyone has a good race.
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« Reply #68 on: August 21, 2008, 08:40:22 PM +0100 »
Quote from: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on August 21, 2008, 08:33:12 PM +0100
Was going to be pretty much at the back of the grid and when folks started having problems at the end of practice and I myself got a CTD decided to call it a night as I'm knackered anyway. Hope everyone has a good race.

Got CTD-ed twice during practice (could be my system) then booted but when logging on again was put on a spot which the car started floating through the ground..
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« Reply #69 on: August 21, 2008, 08:53:27 PM +0100 »
This is how the pits look like from my perspective:

 

Hopefully, I'll be able to make the start. This a third race in a row that I've had problems.  Sad
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« Reply #70 on: August 21, 2008, 09:20:47 PM +0100 »
Sighhh

Noticed at end of qual that I was seeing only my times, had me 7th, and I could
see other cars, but when I went to the grid it CTD.
Dang.
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« Reply #71 on: August 21, 2008, 09:39:18 PM +0100 »
Ran out of fuel on the last bend of the last lap while running tenth. Damn.
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« Reply #72 on: August 21, 2008, 09:40:51 PM +0100 »
Well that was fun.... Sad

I got the CTD in praccy and rejoined somewhere in a swamp Roll Eyes...I got a garage spot and all was well come qually and race though.

Had a slight coming together with Geofers I think it was after he had spun the falcon...wow, they are big when you aproach them at 100mph side on accross the track laugh...couldn't avoid it so that sent me from 12th to 23rd.

Got going again and had a couple of mini battles....(hope your cars not damaged spanner Wink laugh) and some good racing for a couple of laps...but I was fighting obvious suspension damage from earlier and when trying to correct a spin I pulled my wheel off its mounting so hit the esc.

Start seemed pretty good again chaps thumbup2 We do need to keep it up....and extend it around the first couple of laps too.

Just a word to the new lads in case they missed it when reading our rules etc...Please dont use chat during the qualifying session....save it till after the race as it is very very distracting to folk.

Well don winner and podium.
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« Reply #73 on: August 21, 2008, 09:41:54 PM +0100 »
Got taken out twice in the first 3 laps of the race by different people. Second hit damaged my car making it hard to drive. (Steering wheel a few degrees left to go in a straight line.) Then my kids started raising hell.

So for my first race, that totally sucked. Angry

Hope I did a good job getting out the way of the faster cars.

Really really annoyed with how that all went. Angry
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« Reply #74 on: August 21, 2008, 09:48:44 PM +0100 »
Out of interest, what time do you think the praccy server will be back up for Watkins Glen please admins?
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