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  • L4 Interlagos: December 06, 2007
December 06, 2007, 08:55:13 PM +0000 - Interlagos (1990-) - UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup
Driver
 Team		 Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed		 Ford Capri 3100 RS (#202551) GTC-TC-76 4 +1.128
88.974mph		 1 41:08.749
87.937mph		 23 1:45.670
89.324mph
Avon  
Jeffrey
 Team Shark		 Chevrolet Corvette 1969 (#200107) GTC-TC-76 3 +0.662
89.366mph		 2 +5.953
87.725mph		 23 1:46.417
88.697mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark		 Ford Capri 3100 RS (#200103) GTC-TC-76 5 +1.177
88.933mph		 3 +12.608
87.490mph		 23 1:46.119
88.946mph
Avon  
baracus250gt
 Ghostspeed		 Porsche 906 (#30) GTC-TC-76 1 1:44.958
89.930mph		 4 +17.777
87.308mph		 23 1:45.630
89.358mph
Michelin  
ossie
 		 Ford Capri 3100 RS (#126308) GTC-TC-76 7 +1.320
88.813mph		 5 +44.342
86.385mph		 23 1:46.682
88.477mph
Avon  
Madd-RIP
 Team RVS		 Ford Capri 3100 RS (#202953) GTC-TC-76 2 +0.167
89.787mph		 6 (+2) +53.730
86.064mph		 23 1:46.364
88.741mph
Avon  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing		 Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#83) GTC-TC-76 15 +2.914
87.501mph		 7 +1:03.857
85.720mph		 23 1:47.031
88.188mph
Goodyear  
Mike Hammer
 		 Porsche 906 (#30) GTC-TC-76 8 +1.720
88.480mph		 8 +1:13.828
85.383mph		 23 1:46.477
88.647mph
Michelin  
Mr.BMW
 Prodigy Racing		 Porsche 906 (#30) GTC-TC-76 11 +2.462
87.869mph		 9 +1:16.075
85.308mph		 23 1:47.936
87.449mph
Michelin  
Steve Holmes
 Legends Racing		 Ford Capri 3100 RS (#200870) GTC-TC-76 13 +2.655
87.711mph		 10 +1L
83.722mph		 22 1:48.059
87.349mph
Avon  
Lee.
 		 Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 22 +5.951
85.105mph		 11 +10.964
83.354mph		 22 1:49.815
85.952mph
Avon  
[POOdle]Keith
 		 Chevrolet Corvette 1969 (#205257) GTC-TC-76 18 +3.290
87.197mph		 12 +11.158
83.347mph		 22 1:49.787
85.974mph
Dunlop  
Tibernius
 Prodigy Racing		 Porsche 906 (#30) GTC-TC-76 23 +6.840
84.428mph		 13 +2L
76.767mph		 21 1:52.359
84.006mph
Michelin  
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing		 Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#853) GTC-TC-76 14 +2.779
87.610mph		 14 +3L
74.975mph		 20 1:52.655
83.786mph
Goodyear  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club		 Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 24 +9.880
82.193mph		 15 +8.999
74.708mph		 20 1:53.646
83.055mph
Avon  
mr_oily
 Prodigy Racing		 Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 20 +3.549
86.989mph		 16 +6L 17 1:48.413
87.064mph		 DQ
Avon  
[POOdle]andyq
 		 Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#83) GTC-TC-76 6 +1.204
88.910mph		 17 +11L 12 1:46.852
88.336mph		 suspension
Goodyear  
MortenS
 Team Shark Junior		 Porsche 906 (#200102) GTC-TC-76 16 +3.161
87.301mph		 18 12 1:48.840
86.722mph		 unknown
Michelin  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS		 Ford Capri 3100 RS (#202953) GTC-TC-76 9 +1.848
88.374mph		 19 +20L 3 1:49.255
86.393mph		 unknown
Avon  
madmac
 Gentlemen Drivers Club		 Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 21 +4.242
86.436mph		 20 3 1:53.771
82.964mph		 suspension
Avon  
Mark J
 Legends Racing		 Porsche 911 RSR 2.8 (#200873) GTC-TC-76 12 +2.510
87.830mph		 21 +21L 2 1:58.405
79.717mph		 unknown
Goodyear  
Bernie Lomax
 Legends Racing		 Ford Capri 3100 RS (#200870) GTC-TC-76 10 +2.413
87.909mph		 22 +22L 1 2:11.155
71.967mph		 suspension
Avon  
Wiltshire Tony
 Prodigy Racing		 Porsche 906 (#30) GTC-TC-76 19 +3.370
87.132mph		 +23L 0 ---
---		 suspension
Michelin  
Adam Parle
 Legends Racing		 Ford Capri 3100 RS (#200870) GTC-TC-76 17 +3.168
87.295mph		 DNS ---
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Avon  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 38s

Blunder thinks it's a rolling start and completely fails to move at the start for over 5 seconds, causing chaos as other cars have to brake and swerve to avoid him.

Server replay time: 45s

As the start goes, Mike Hammer spins across the track right into the path of Jebstone Boppman. Jebstone has nowhere to go and crashes into Mike.

This is a dangerous place to spin, at the front at the start of a race, and should be avoided.

  • Mike Hammer — penalty — Self spin with contact — 2 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded

Server replay time: 49s

Just as the field is leaving start Mike Hammer spins. He's then waiting at one side of the track. Then as Tibernius is approaching him, he just rams into Mikes parked car.

  • Tibernius — penalty — Lack of care approaching an incident — 3 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded

Server replay time: 205s

Morten is looking at the inside of MJ, locks a wheel and makes slight contact before backing off. Mike Hammer runs into the back of him as a result. Mike then gets tagged himself by Mr BMW.

Mike is a quick driver but spun under his own steam during the start and then failed to take account of being at the back of the pack when estimating safety margins.

  • Mike Hammer — caution — contact with Morten
  • MortenS (Morten) — caution — contact with Marc Jonzo
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded
  • Mr.BMW (Jebstone Boppman) — caution — contact with Mike Hammer
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded

Server replay time: 1520s

Madd-RIP has just passed PRibeiro and is closing fast on Ruskus. As they approach the 3rd to last turn, Madd-RIP brakes late and touches Ruskus' rear, forcing Ruskus off the track. Madd-RIP spins, and PRibeiro passes both for the lead.

This should be avoided as Madd is closing this fast he would have had plenty of opportunities to pass later. However I choose to see this as simply missing his braking zone.

  • Madd-RIP — penalty — Rear-ending — 2 places lost

Server replay time: 2100s

Tibernius spins in turn 1, in the middle of the ideal racing line. He then spins the car around ending up outside the racing line, but still on the track. Then he's slowly driving down into the racing line just infront of Baracus.

Try to get up to speed and check mirrors before getting back into the traffic. If' you'd just kept your car in the outside throught this turn, the rest of the traffic would have time to adapt to your speed.

  • Tibernius — penalty — Bad Rejoin — 2 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded

Server replay time: 2213s

After passing Tibernius, Madd-RIP misses braking and gois off the track. He then rejoins behind Tibernius, as they are closing the last turn. In the final turn Tibernius slows down, as he thinks Madd is passing him on the outside, which he is not. Madd is trying the use Tibernius' draft. So when tibernius is slowing Madd has nowhere to go but straight into Tibernius' rear end.

Never do unexpected things like this when a car is as close as this. I can't believe you didn't see him in your mirrors, but if you don't, don't do anything untill you're sure where the drivers around you are. You could also flash your lights to let him know to pass you.

  • Tibernius — penalty — Dangerous behavior — 2 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded

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« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2007, 11:21:27 AM +0000 »
This track is pretty technical, with lots of nasty corners. 911 for me i think...
need some practice for this one as never raced here before?
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« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2007, 11:34:35 AM +0000 »
Quote from: will16v on November 30, 2007, 11:21:27 AM +0000
This track is pretty technical, with lots of nasty corners. 911 for me i think...
need some practice for this one as never raced here before?

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« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2007, 09:27:12 PM +0000 »
First, any moderators/admins feel free to delete any off-topic posts by me, I tend to wander off and I'd forgotten which section of the forum I was in.

Second, does anyone (other than Ruskus Grin) have a lap time for Interlagos? I'm trying to predict how many times I'll be lapped!
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« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2007, 03:18:41 PM +0000 »
I've tried all of the cars at Interlagos, and I've decided which one I'm going to use.
Your reaction to this will probably be:  Roll Eyes lol nono but: I'm going to drive the Porsche 906. It's the only car I feel I can control at high speed.

Best lap time so far: 1:54.3
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« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2007, 03:22:37 PM +0000 »
Quote from: Tibernius on December 01, 2007, 03:18:41 PM +0000
I've tried all of the cars at Interlagos, and I've decided which one I'm going to use.
Your reaction to this will probably be:  Roll Eyes lol nono but: I'm going to drive the Porsche 906. It's the only car I feel I can control at high speed.

Best lap time so far: 1:54.3

The 906 is notorious for biting under braking. Best is still Capri or Vette.
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« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2007, 03:26:31 PM +0000 »
Quote from: Ruskus on December 01, 2007, 03:22:37 PM +0000
Quote from: Tibernius on December 01, 2007, 03:18:41 PM +0000
I've tried all of the cars at Interlagos, and I've decided which one I'm going to use.
Your reaction to this will probably be:  Roll Eyes lol nono but: I'm going to drive the Porsche 906. It's the only car I feel I can control at high speed.

Best lap time so far: 1:54.3

The 906 is notorious for biting under braking. Best is still Capri or Vette.

Tried the Capri, alright but I can't control it properly.
'69 Corvette: Can't control it at all.
911: Handles well but very unpredictable.

I noticed about the brakes, I had to shift the brake balance but it seems better now.
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« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2007, 03:41:47 PM +0000 »
The 906 is not bad to drive, I find it one of the easyest myself. But considering the Capri is faster, I've found that it easyer to drive better laps in this. But the 906 is not too slow either, so go with what you feel comportable driving Tibernius.
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« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2007, 03:44:38 PM +0000 »
Quote from: MortenS on December 01, 2007, 03:41:47 PM +0000
The 906 is not bad to drive, I find it one of the easyest myself. But considering the Capri is faster, I've found that it easyer to drive better laps in this. But the 906 is not too slow either, so go with what you feel comportable driving Tibernius.

That's why I'm going to drive one. I feel that if I drive any of the others I'll either be spinning to much or have no control over the car, and I don't want to end up crashing in to someone.

Does anyone have a setup for the 906?
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« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2007, 04:43:57 PM +0000 »
Can you set up a 906? I've never managed it!
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« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2007, 07:10:01 PM +0000 »
I have a decent setup for the 906, I'll upload it when i get home tonight.
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« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2007, 09:07:00 PM +0000 »
I want the BMW  Grin please, mighty dear almost god, add the Beemer  Grin
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« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2007, 05:55:54 AM +0000 »
Quote from: pribeiro on December 01, 2007, 09:07:00 PM +0000
I want the BMW  Grin please, mighty dear almost god, add the Beemer  Grin
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I would liketh the BMW as well Sad I will have to deal with this Porker
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« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2007, 03:11:32 PM +0000 »
A question for the moderators: What are the rules about cutting the pit entrance? You can gain a few hundredths by cutting it, but is it allowed?
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« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2007, 05:51:09 PM +0000 »
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A question for the moderators: What are the rules about cutting the pit entrance? You can gain a few hundredths by cutting it, but is it allowed?

It's not cutting, it's part of the track.

However, seeing how close you come to smacking the pit wall head on, if you collide with the pit wall you will be severely frowned upon for a) being such a numpty, b) driving in a knowingly dangerous manner. This is the fastest part of the track so you are risking causing a big pile-up if you hit the wall.
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« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2007, 12:00:28 PM +0000 »
Nobody has mentioned yet the question of fuel.  According to my 906 setup, I should only get 20 laps.  Roll Eyes  I guess with such a fast track we use more fuel and 40 mins approx is a looong way to go.  Shocked

Re the 906 tendency to lockup under heavy braking, I find it is a problem of changing down too early and locking up the transmission - wait for it.  oops

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