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June 19, 2008, 08:55:25 PM +0100 - Le Mans (Sarthe (2006+)) - UKGTL Season 5 Season 5 Classic Endurance
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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sooty1977
 Prodigy Racing
DeTomaso Pantera (#205797) GTC-TC-76 1 4:26.102
114.912mph
1 1:17:38.190
111.596mph
17 4:28.292
113.974mph
Avon  
stnasky
 Team RVS
Chevrolet Corvette 1969 (#85) GTC-TC-76 4 +6.109
112.334mph
2 +23.242
111.042mph
17 4:27.712
114.221mph
Avon  
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed
BMW CSL Schnitzer (#870) GTC-TC-76 3 +4.628
112.948mph
3 +2:21.413
108.308mph
17 4:29.511
113.459mph
Dunlop  
Steve Holmes
 Legends Racing
Porsche 906 (#200872) GTC-TC-76 9 +8.902
111.193mph
4 +2:58.393
107.479mph
17 4:36.359
110.648mph
Michelin  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 6 +7.599
111.722mph
5 +3:26.429
106.860mph
17 4:35.136
111.139mph
Avon  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford GT40 (#840) GTC-65 13 +11.827
110.022mph
6 +3:42.797
106.502mph
17 4:39.208
109.518mph
Dunlop  
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
Porsche 906 (#205705) GTC-TC-76 10 +10.248
110.651mph
7 +3:52.632
106.288mph
17 4:38.405
109.834mph
Michelin  
mr_oily
 Prodigy Racing
DeTomaso Pantera (#205797) GTC-TC-76 5 +6.938
111.993mph
8 +6:00.318
103.583mph
17 4:33.667
111.736mph
Avon  
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#200870) GTC-TC-76 14 +13.246
109.464mph
9 +1L
104.965mph
16 4:36.284
110.678mph
Avon  
Phil Gilliland
 Team Pseudo Racing
DeTomaso Pantera (#84) GTC-TC-76 7 +8.599
111.315mph
10 +33.946
104.207mph
16 4:37.718
110.106mph
Avon  
TinMan
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche 906 (#201441) GTC-TC-76 11 +10.481
110.558mph
11 +39.629
104.081mph
16 4:38.605
109.756mph
Michelin  
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford GT40 (#840) GTC-65 19 +17.430
107.848mph
12 +52.334
103.800mph
16 4:42.322
108.310mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Prodigy Racing
DeTomaso Pantera (#205797) GTC-TC-76 17 +15.592
108.552mph
13 +1:44.512
102.664mph
16 4:43.058
108.029mph
Avon  
Chris The Rookie
 
Porsche 906 (#201441) GTC-TC-76 20 +19.903
106.916mph
14 +2:05.169
102.220mph
16 4:46.752
106.637mph
Michelin  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 906 (#30) GTC-TC-76 23 +23.776
105.487mph
15 +2:15.489
102.000mph
16 4:48.031
106.164mph
Michelin  
Adam Parle
 Legends Racing
Chevrolet Corvette 1969 (#85) GTC-TC-76 12 +10.735
110.456mph
16 +2:44.375
101.390mph
16 4:34.494
111.399mph
Avon  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Porsche 906 (#205503) GTC-TC-76 21 +23.076
105.743mph
17 +3:03.157
100.997mph
16 4:46.951
106.563mph
Michelin  
will16v
 Prodigy Racing
DeTomaso Pantera (#205797) GTC-TC-76 15 +13.297
109.444mph
18 +6:11.279
97.221mph
16 4:36.182
110.718mph
Avon  
Tibernius
 Prodigy Racing
Porsche 906 (#205705) GTC-TC-76 24 +29.117
103.579mph
19 +2L
91.478mph
15 4:53.514
104.180mph
Michelin  
Sandor M
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Porsche 906 (#205503) GTC-TC-76 22 +23.349
105.643mph
20 +3L 14 4:50.409
105.294mph
suspension
Michelin  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
DeTomaso Pantera (#121213) GTC-TC-76 2 +4.419
113.035mph
21 +6L 11 4:33.445
111.827mph
suspension
Avon  
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 25 +29.486
103.450mph
22 +9L 8 4:41.400
108.665mph
unknown
Avon  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#205323) GTC-TC-76 23 +10L 7 4:56.396
103.167mph
suspension
Avon  
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche 906 (#201441) GTC-TC-76 8 +8.766
111.248mph
24 +14L 3 5:13.029
97.686mph
suspension
Michelin  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 RSR 2.8 (#852) GTC-TC-76 16 +13.611
109.321mph
25 3 4:47.829
106.238mph
unknown
Goodyear  
Mr.BMW
 Prodigy Racing
BMW CSL Schnitzer (#205795) GTC-TC-76 18 +15.600
108.549mph
26 +16L 1 5:28.168
93.179mph
unknown
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 44s

Dan Minton spins the rears up as he goes for second gear and loses control of the car, collecting a bunch of unfortunate drivers in the process.


Server replay time: 566s

Wiltshire Tony runs into the back of Alex at Indianapolis. He does a voluntary drive through at the end of the lap, therefore the 2 place penalty is reduced to 0 places.

  • Wiltshire Tonypenalty — rear ending Alex vV — 0 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded

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GTC-TC-76
4:26.102
114.912mph
sooty1977
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« Reply #75 on: June 20, 2008, 09:30:40 AM +0100 »

i think the biggest problem last night at the start was so many people giving the big V8's too much welly and then spearing left and right into other competitors. I was guilty myself to some extent, of lighting up the tyres in the 911 and then having to go at an exagerated angle to avoid the two cars in front coming together so i cant point the finger too much.  Embarrassed
But it was definitely the heavy right foot off the line that caused last nights carnage from certain cars ahead. I felt like a Nascar driver driving through spinning cars, tyre smoke and debris !

Shame GTL forces starts into such a hurry that we dont get a chance to put up a 'take it easy guys' notice etc just to calm the adrenalin flowing through every ones veins.
Im still for standing starts no matter how often some chaos may occur.
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« Reply #76 on: June 20, 2008, 09:33:03 AM +0100 »

Just looked at the replay.
I caused some issues for the last 6 or so drivers, my fault sorry.
There was also another incident at the front of the pack.
Not my place to comment!
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This things happen to everybody, Martin, no need to sweat about it.  Smiley  What I'd like to know is why was your car invisible for me Huh I was like I hit a wall of glass. Also you don't show on my replay.  Sad

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« Reply #77 on: June 20, 2008, 09:37:25 AM +0100 »

Wierd!? the replay plays Ok!
Just figured out, I had been driving the 906 at 60% power setting and had changed it last minute to get better drive/laptime but of course, I forgot about the potential change to my start strategy! Ah well, lesson learned the hard way! Sad
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« Reply #78 on: June 20, 2008, 09:41:39 AM +0100 »

Since a 'Legends 906' seems to be popping up accused of running into Phil, let's make it clear I was an innocent bystander in all that mess (as far as I am aware, replay pending), made a great, clean start was outdragging several people and looking for a top 5 position and then 'waaaah' a Pantera side on directly in front of me appears in the smoke, nowhere to go.   Angry

So my race was compromised from the word go, had bodywork damage losing me a little top speed and slightly wonky suspension making braking tricky, unpredictable single wheel lockups.  But it was only losing me 2-3 seconds a lap so I didn't even bother repairing it in the pitstop, needed 1m50 and just didn't seem worth it.  Think it was probably the right decision too.

Did make a few minor mistakes but this often led to some good close racing with a host of people.  Apologies to PR near the end, fighting for 3rd, after I retook I stayed on the inside but being offline had to brake a little harder and my car simply wouldn't take braking on the limit and I spun.  I was very relieved when you carried on your way after bumping into me, looks like no major damage caused.

By the end car was pulling to the left, couldn't ride the kerbs with any throttle or brake hard at all, really felt like the end of an enduro, nursing a woulded car home.   Smiley

Great series of racing all round, well done to our leaders.  Grin
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« Reply #79 on: June 20, 2008, 09:50:44 AM +0100 »

Well i've always hoped one day i'd be setting new records but I hadn't planned on it being for number of stop/ go's in one race.   :'( Five pit stops in total and a fair amount of general scrappyness meant eighth place was the story of my first Le Mans outing. That said, the Panterrifying kept me amused in what was a very quiet race overall...thought everyone had gone home!

Grats to the podium and new Prodigy recruit Sooty, finishing in a Pantera around here is an achievement so to keep up those times throughout was really very impressive, same to Stnasky, I imagine you had your work cut out sticking with him in the Vette. Also Pribeiro, that was one hell of a drive buddy, no idea what you do with that beemer to make it so quick but it seems to work. I was having a shocker so when I saw you in my mirrors, just dived out of the way thinking you were lapping me, only to realise we were racing for position, albeit 9th'ish!

Jonzo, big apologies mate, that was me who clipped you. Just arrived at the chicane, saw a flash of agreen 906 off the road to the right so thought something was going on but i'd already left my braking later than I should have and just couldn't quite scrub that last few mph off before just shaving your bumper enough to synchronise pirrouette. Really sorry about that, definitely my bad. Pretty crap ya DSL gave out, can recommend BE Internet if that helps!

Really sorry you didn't get a better outing Jeb, replay should be interesting if not painful! Grats to the other Prodigy boys for sticking in there and bringing it home in one piece, not forgetting our other new addition Spanner who also pipped the rest of us to the post and Will who seems to have a combination of nitrous and Renault F1's launch control off the start these days!

As always cheers to you organiser types, doing a sterling job of keeping things interesting and can't wait for the next one to roll around!

We could run a couple of unofficial Thursday night blasts on the Prodigy server to keep those idle wheels busy - might be a nice opportunity to test some add-on cars in the off season if anyone's up for it?
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« Reply #80 on: June 20, 2008, 10:00:18 AM +0100 »

The standing start chat is important so can we continue in the UKGTL S6 discussion thread please. I'm really torn on this one. Shame to see such a messy one last night but the way all battled on regardless says a lot Smiley. Ta for that.

After avoiding mayhem in front, I was down in 12th and looking to thread my way past a few. Really had MJ in my sights, as most others had to much POWER, but denied a good battle when he and a few others fell off in front. Then spent most of the first half passing/re passing the bright green tomato's of Will and Oily who were having a "little" trouble harnessing that power. Great fun with them, good driving to avoid me gents, and some stand out moments down Mulsanne with them, Steves 906 and TT Cwapri. Luvverly nostalgic stuff. Second half of race and through pits had a nice fight with Spanner. Again, great stuff to avoid my early braking and twas funny as I pulled away down Mulsanne only to seeing you flying up as the GT40 ran outta gears. All in all a cracking finish to S5 for me.

Think the fact that we effectively only had two laps for quali really added something and it makes me think that shorter quali sessions, say enough for 2/3 laps, would really add something whilst letting those short of time compete in the enduros. Didn't get close to a pb but it sure sharpened the mind knowing I only had two chances Smiley

Congrats to Sooty for the win last night, Ruskus for winning championship (and combined titles) and Ghostspeed for Enduro team title Smiley Special mention to Team Prodigy for their first podium finish. Roll on S6.


 
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« Reply #81 on: June 20, 2008, 10:05:01 AM +0100 »

We could run a couple of unofficial Thursday night blasts on the Prodigy server to keep those idle wheels busy - might be a nice opportunity to test some add-on cars in the off season if anyone's up for it?

Don't forget Fun race at Cadwell next week Smiley Pseudo and I will need a wee break after that, but should be back to do some skin/track testing ourselves within a few weeks I guess. Will let you all know asap and if you want to organise something in small gap, cheers Smiley 
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« Reply #82 on: June 20, 2008, 10:24:12 AM +0100 »

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Really had MJ in my sights, as most others had to much POWER, but denied a good battle when he and a few others fell off in front. 

Oiy!, i never fell off, i was giving a helping hand by some rascal from behind !! Roll Eyes...ooer.
Blimey Oilly you must have appeared from nowhere as never even saw your car  Shocked i did wonder how the heck spanner had managed to tap my rear with his spinning car as it appeared too far away from me when i scooted through at the chicane. I presumed he had bounced back off the barrier into my rear quarter.

Flipping lead-foot V8 drivers  Grin

In hindsight the 911 was massively outgunned here but i was hoping there would be a good mix of cars to fight against but alas everyone went the trophy hunter route of Pantera or 906. whistling
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« Reply #83 on: June 20, 2008, 10:39:29 AM +0100 »

Blimey Oilly you must have appeared from nowhere as never even saw your car 

Yeah i'm really sorry dude, couldn't believe it after hearing how much you loved the place! That seemed to happen throughout race...I was gaining shedloads under braking, more than with the top end advantage but ran out of talent quite quickly and started snatching wheels all over the show...hence my beautiful array of stop/ go's for being in places I shouldn't have been!
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« Reply #84 on: June 20, 2008, 10:43:06 AM +0100 »


In hindsight the 911 was massively outgunned here but i was hoping there would be a good mix of cars to fight against but alas everyone went the trophy hunter route of Pantera or 906. whistling

Hey!  Call the 906 a trohpy hunter car, you should have driven the thing, maybe it was my damaged aero, but I had no speed on the straight at all, without a draft - although more than Ginsters GT40!

Terrible luck with your connection though, time to rip out all the wiring and start afresh MJ, get that broadband sorted.   Wink
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« Reply #85 on: June 20, 2008, 10:44:26 AM +0100 »

no worries mate, my poxy ISP let me down again for 2nd race in a row anyway  :'(
Whats the BE internet you mentioned?  Im with Fast at the moment, supposed to be a premium ISP yet ive got dog slow speeds, though i think its my home phone wiring thats causing the problem. I've not had faster than 2016kbps since ive been at this new house, but this week its been a shocking 5-700kpbs so must surely be an outside influence?  Angry
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« Reply #86 on: June 20, 2008, 11:04:14 AM +0100 »

Yeah that is seriously annoying, unfortunately there is a possibility it could be outside of the ISP's control and actually a flaky line. Eventually has to go across BT's network but there's also the possibility it could be traffic shaping or some other margin preserving exercise from the ISP.

I think everyone's got their opinions on good ISP's but having worked at Zen (just won best broadband provider in Which report), I know all the gamer techies who I've worked with and who've moved on elsewhere (no longer get the complimentary staff connection), have always recommended BE (owned by O2) as being as good but with much higher download caps if you want to downloads lots of p0rnography wildlife documentaries.  euro

They're not the cheapest but I switched from Zen to them when I left the company and have been really impressed, both with the speed/ reliability for gaming but also the customer service side - i've always had plenty of warning (via text and email) when they've got maintenance. Might not be relevant to you if you mainly use it for gaming but there's also none of this fair usage malarkey so they don't bugger about with your connection no matter how much you download or when you download it.

Anyway might be an option if the grief continues!  https://www.bethere.co.uk/
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« Reply #87 on: June 20, 2008, 11:33:55 AM +0100 »

Oily, how do I test my ISP's speed?
I'm with Fast but after reading the previous post's I'd like to run a check to see what I'm actually getting for my buck.
Is there a gizmo available that I could have on my desktop showing me the current connection status?
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« Reply #88 on: June 20, 2008, 11:43:32 AM +0100 »

Oily, how do I test my ISP's speed?
I'm with Fast but after reading the previous post's I'd like to run a check to see what I'm actually getting for my buck.
Is there a gizmo available that I could have on my desktop showing me the current connection status?

I go there m8 Wink

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« Reply #89 on: June 20, 2008, 11:44:36 AM +0100 »

Oily, how do I test my ISP's speed?
I'm with Fast but after reading the previous post's I'd like to run a check to see what I'm actually getting for my buck.
Is there a gizmo available that I could have on my desktop showing me the current connection status?

Tony I use this :-

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/

Hope you find it useful.

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