Simon Gymer
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« on: September 01, 2007, 12:18:51 AM +0100 » |
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All members welcome. Practice: 20:15 (10 mins) Qualifying: 20:25 (25 mins) Race: 20:50 (39 laps = ~40 mins) Track: Crystal Palace v1.2 (download here) Cars allowed: Alfa Romeo, Lotus Cortina, Mini Cooper, Ford Mustang Time of Day Setting: 20:00 ( see note 5) Start: STANDINGServer: UKGTL Classics Cup Password: see aboveNotes:(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage. (2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules. (3) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page(4) The season will be run using the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.4 which will need to be installed prior to racing; please get it from the downloads page. (5) Frame rates - Please test out your frame rate in night conditions before hand. You will be required to run with lights on. Advice on increasing frame rates with headlights on is to reduce Headlight Effects in graphics options to Low and turn down the Shadows setting (in that order of preference for highest FPS increase). If you're frame rate is too low your car will be laggy and cause problems. Please ensure you have a good frame rate before joining.
GT Legends FPS increase tips: If you haven't already done so these .plr file tweaks will give you a big performance boost in GTL... (The ones highlighted in bold are the worst offenders)
Data Acquisition In Race="1" ---->change value to "0" Driver Animations="1" ---->change value to "0" Trackside Characters="1" ---->change value to "0" Disable All Character Anims="0" ---->change value to "1" LOD Multiplier Multiplier="1.00250" ---->change value to "0.99000" Arms Visible In Cockpit="1" ---->change value to "0" Windscreen dirt buildup="1" ---->change value to "0" Swaying Trees="1" ---->change value to "0"
More settings here... https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=791.msg48244#msg48244
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« Last Edit: September 02, 2007, 05:01:10 PM +0100 by Simon 'Shark' Gymer »
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madmac
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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2007, 11:19:49 AM +0100 » |
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Hi
Even with all of the tweaks suggested and running DX 7 my 64bit Athlon 3500 with 2gig ram and 256meg G-force PCI express card and a 10meg broadband cable connection will only give frame rates of 20-30. Off the line with 16 other cars offline it drops to 12. The start will be chaos! In DX 8 and DX 9 it is just unplayable. And that is with every graphic setting set at minimum and absolutely nothing running in the background.
My old Athlon 2.2 with a 512 saphire AGP card and 2gig ram wont run at anything above 6FPS.
Much as it would be nice to race at night I think a few people will just not have the equiptment for it and much of the outcome will be decided by the quality of a drivers computer and his fps rather than his driving skills.
Would we not be better off doing these night races during pre season and keeping the league races to daylight so that everybody can take part even if their computer spec is a bit lower? Just a suggestion.
Having said all that I will be there, racing for my new team, Gentleman Racers. Thanks for the invite Alex. Looking forward to racing with you.
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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2007, 11:55:14 AM +0100 » |
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What card do you have? For GTL this is probably the most important item.
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madmac
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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2007, 11:58:59 AM +0100 » |
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The standard card with the PC G-force 6150 Le. Not the best but can't afford to upgrade it at the moment. It is fine for everyting except lighting effects. In daylight runs 70fps at Crystal Palace.
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Wiltshire Tony
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2007, 02:38:49 PM +0100 » |
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Hi Guys, Can someone tell me, is it possible to setup a quick race at Crystal Palace for 39 laps? It seems to only allow me 20 laps at the moment. Also I cannot get a starting grid of 24 cars. Cheers Tony
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« Last Edit: September 01, 2007, 04:59:20 PM +0100 by Wiltshire Tony »
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Alex vV
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2007, 02:57:20 PM +0100 » |
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Hi
Even with all of the tweaks suggested and running DX 7 my 64bit Athlon 3500 with 2gig ram and 256meg G-force PCI express card and a 10meg broadband cable connection will only give frame rates of 20-30. Off the line with 16 other cars offline it drops to 12. The start will be chaos! In DX 8 and DX 9 it is just unplayable. And that is with every graphic setting set at minimum and absolutely nothing running in the background.
My old Athlon 2.2 with a 512 saphire AGP card and 2gig ram wont run at anything above 6FPS.
Much as it would be nice to race at night I think a few people will just not have the equiptment for it and much of the outcome will be decided by the quality of a drivers computer and his fps rather than his driving skills.
Would we not be better off doing these night races during pre season and keeping the league races to daylight so that everybody can take part even if their computer spec is a bit lower? Just a suggestion.
Having said all that I will be there, racing for my new team, Gentleman Racers. Thanks for the invite Alex. Looking forward to racing with you.
Welcome aboard MadMac! You are our top driver so all our hopes are focused on you I am going to give it a try tonight. Night races are fun but I have heard similar stories.. fingers crossed!
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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2007, 11:42:05 PM +0100 » |
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I cant be there Hope you all have fun Cheers
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madmac
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2007, 10:19:01 AM +0100 » |
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Hi
Thanks Alex.
Star driver! Me? I just race to try and finish. Will do my best though. See you Thursday.
Peter
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2007, 03:24:41 PM +0100 » |
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Should be a fun race! Nice short track with some alternative lines through the bends so should encourage some daring passing (not as 'daring' as the BTCC i've just been watching tho I hope! - those driving standards are pretty poor I think!). - did a few laps last night. Got a 59.8 best but usually 1 min dead or 1:00.1 Still got to change the car setup a bit to settle it down but I got it drifting nicely in that really fast entry right hander that tightens!! Great fun
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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2007, 04:56:30 PM +0100 » |
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Hi
Even with all of the tweaks suggested and running DX 7 my 64bit Athlon 3500 with 2gig ram and 256meg G-force PCI express card and a 10meg broadband cable connection will only give frame rates of 20-30. Off the line with 16 other cars offline it drops to 12. The start will be chaos! In DX 8 and DX 9 it is just unplayable. And that is with every graphic setting set at minimum and absolutely nothing running in the background.
My old Athlon 2.2 with a 512 saphire AGP card and 2gig ram wont run at anything above 6FPS.
There's something wrong there, Peter, those are crazy frame rates. I have a 2.0GHz Athlon, Radeon 9600 Pro (absolutely ancient card ) and 1Gig of DDR333 RAM and I get 40-45 fps night time racing at Crystal Palace with DX7, most settings on low. At startline I get 30fps, drops to 20 when the 19 AI in front get moving and some effects are rendered. I may increase the headlight effects from low to medium (very weird when other cars aren't lit up) and see what effect that has. My system is so-low end its almost ridiculous, but it looks absolutely fine for racing at night - your system should completely murder mine, so something must be wrong, but I'm not sure where to start.... Tried the Cortina and the Mustang, running consistent 1:01.0s so far, Bara will be far ahead!!! We are all going to have to be so careful at the start not to knock our headlights out
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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2007, 05:12:02 PM +0100 » |
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We are all going to have to be so careful at the start not to knock our headlights out I tend to drive with my eyes wide shut anyway....so who needs headlights
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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2007, 05:56:32 PM +0100 » |
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You can easily drive this circuit without headlights. As I manage to prove every practise lap after I smash into something solid.
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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2007, 06:28:50 PM +0100 » |
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Hi
Even with all of the tweaks suggested and running DX 7 my 64bit Athlon 3500 with 2gig ram and 256meg G-force PCI express card and a 10meg broadband cable connection will only give frame rates of 20-30. Off the line with 16 other cars offline it drops to 12. The start will be chaos! In DX 8 and DX 9 it is just unplayable. And that is with every graphic setting set at minimum and absolutely nothing running in the background.
My old Athlon 2.2 with a 512 saphire AGP card and 2gig ram wont run at anything above 6FPS.
Much as it would be nice to race at night I think a few people will just not have the equiptment for it and much of the outcome will be decided by the quality of a drivers computer and his fps rather than his driving skills.
Would we not be better off doing these night races during pre season and keeping the league races to daylight so that everybody can take part even if their computer spec is a bit lower? Just a suggestion.
Having said all that I will be there, racing for my new team, Gentleman Racers. Thanks for the invite Alex. Looking forward to racing with you.
Make sure all your drivers are updated for the vid card, also sounds like there may be some processing problems there. Maybe try running it at DX9? I have an Athalon 64bit 3000 (2.0GhZ) with 1.5Gig RAM, and an NvIdia 7800 GT 256meg card. I am getting about 50 fps on this track at night with 24 cars on the track, haven't gotten a hint of slowdown yet. My graphics settings are at medium-high at DX9.
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2007, 09:08:05 PM +0100 » |
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I did some testing and I'll get a 30-40 fps with all options on but I must admit that last year I finally was able to buy a system which was (then) in the higher classes. I sympathise with MadMac because until recently I was _always_ finetuning my system to get some recent performance. MadMac, did you turn off all unnecessary track objects (Audience, Trees). Did you try running it in a lower resolution? And turn of the anti-aliasing stuff? Hope this helps..
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