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  • P8SC Okayama: June 27, 2013
June 27, 2013, 08:51:38 PM +0100 - Okayama (Full) - UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 914/6 GT (#71019) P&G 70s Gr4 U2L 1 1:41.007
81.099mph
1 37:49.177
79.418mph
22 1:41.735
80.519mph
Firestone  
Mogget
 WSL Racing Team
Chevrolet Corvette C3 L88 (60s) (#68003) P&G Group 3 O2L 11 +1.909
79.595mph
2 +48.519
77.756mph
22 1:43.675
79.012mph
Goodyear  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
DeTomaso Pantera (#72031) P&G 70s Gr4 O2L 9 +1.576
79.853mph
3 +54.327
77.562mph
22 1:43.816
78.905mph
Dunlop  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 275 GTB/C Speciale (#66015) P&G Group 3 O2L 4 +0.847
80.425mph
4 +54.929
77.541mph
22 1:43.514
79.135mph
Dunlop  
frex
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 914/6 GT (#70040) P&G 70s Gr4 U2L 12 +1.986
79.535mph
5 +54.972
77.540mph
22 1:43.748
78.956mph
Dunlop  
Jarda Zacek
 
Porsche 914/6 GT (#71019) P&G 70s Gr4 U2L 13 +2.387
79.227mph
6 +55.742
77.514mph
22 1:43.912
78.832mph
Firestone  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Ferrari 275 GTB/C Speciale (#66015) P&G Group 3 O2L 7 +1.397
79.993mph
7 +1:02.406
77.293mph
22 1:43.865
78.867mph
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 914/6 GT (#71059) P&G 70s Gr4 U2L 8 +1.481
79.927mph
8 +1:11.354
76.997mph
22 1:43.473
79.166mph
Firestone  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Ferrari 275 GTB/C Speciale (#66015) P&G Group 3 O2L 15 +2.749
78.950mph
9 +1:14.579
76.891mph
22 1:44.243
78.581mph
Dunlop  
massimogt italy
 
Porsche 914/6 GT (#70088) P&G 70s Gr4 U2L 17 +3.359
78.489mph
10 (+2) +1L
72.706mph
21 1:45.670
77.520mph
Dunlop  
Berger R - 74
 Supersonic Racing
DeTomaso Pantera (#72033) P&G 70s Gr4 O2L 2 +0.357
80.813mph
11 +3L 19 1:42.174
80.173mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Animal Ed
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche 914/6 GT (#71059) P&G 70s Gr4 U2L 3 +0.404
80.776mph
12 +6L 16 1:41.915
80.376mph
unknown
Firestone  
Truetom
 Legends Racing
DeTomaso Pantera (#72030) P&G 70s Gr4 O2L 14 +2.740
78.957mph
13 +9L 13 1:45.642
77.541mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Alessandro Tancioni
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Porsche 914/6 GT (#71018) P&G 70s Gr4 U2L 10 +1.786
79.690mph
14 +11L 11 1:43.165
79.403mph
unknown
Firestone  
johnw
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Chevrolet Corvette C3 L88 (60s) (#68045) P&G Group 3 O2L 6 +1.234
80.120mph
15 +12L 10 1:43.243
79.343mph
unknown
{unknown}  
Syd Drake
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Porsche 914/6 GT (#71059) P&G 70s Gr4 U2L 19 +5.018
77.261mph
16 +13L 9 1:45.340
77.763mph
unknown
Firestone  
SpecialKS
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Porsche 914/6 GT (#71005) P&G 70s Gr4 U2L 18 +4.501
77.639mph
17 +17L 5 1:46.524
76.899mph
suspension
Dunlop  
robiker
 
Porsche 914/6 GT (#71019) P&G 70s Gr4 U2L 16 +2.844
78.878mph
18 +19L 3 1:44.767
78.188mph
unknown
Firestone  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Chevrolet Corvette C3 L88 (60s) (#68045) P&G Group 3 O2L 20 +7.315
75.622mph
19 +21L 1 2:04.607
65.739mph
unknown
{unknown}  
NPP
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche 914/6 GT (#71059) P&G 70s Gr4 U2L 5 +1.067
80.251mph
+22L 0 ---
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unknown
Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Having watched the first lap I have to conclude that although there are impacts involving massimogt italy I can find no collisions that I can solely blame this driver for creating and certainly none that caused any drivers to lose places. I also observed that the driver himself was hit several times. No drivers have filed incident reports concerning lap 1 and therefore I see no reason to punish massimogt italy.


At Hairpin massimogt italy spins Mark Jonzo causing Mark to to be hit hard by another driver. massimogt italy drives on and fails to wait for Mark Jonzo to pass him.
We take a dim view of this behaviour. The penalty would have been tougher if the victim had filed an incident report.

  • massimogt italy (massimogt)penalty — Caused accident and failed to wait for victim to pass — 2 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


At Hairpin massimogt italy is passed by Robiker. At Revolver (the next corner) Robiker is hit and spun by massimogt italy causing Robiker to retire. No other drivers were involved. It is however noted that massimogt italy does wait for Robiker to pass at the cost of many places.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
P&G Group 3 O2L
1:41.854
80.425mph
Geoffers
Qualifying
Ferrari 275 GTB/C SpecialeJune 27, 2013, 08:51:38 PM +0100
P8SC
GTR2
P&G Group 3 O2L
1:43.243
79.343mph
johnw
Race
Chevrolet Corvette C3 L88 (60s)June 27, 2013, 08:51:38 PM +0100
P8SC
GTR2
P&G 70s Gr4 U2L
1:41.007
81.099mph
goldtop
Qualifying
Porsche 914/6 GTJune 27, 2013, 08:51:38 PM +0100
P8SC
GTR2
P&G 70s Gr4 U2L
1:41.735
80.519mph
goldtop
Race
Porsche 914/6 GTJune 27, 2013, 08:51:38 PM +0100
P8SC
GTR2
P&G 70s Gr4 O2L
1:41.364
80.813mph
Berger R - 74
Qualifying
DeTomaso PanteraJune 27, 2013, 08:51:38 PM +0100
P8SC
GTR2
P&G 70s Gr4 O2L
1:42.174
80.173mph
Berger R - 74
Race
DeTomaso PanteraJune 27, 2013, 08:51:38 PM +0100
P8SC
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« Reply #45 on: June 27, 2013, 10:00:39 PM +0100 »

I'm not going to mention the first couple of laps.

I will however mention the really top draw driving of MJ for a whole 18-19 laps. Inches apart, it was like we had an invisible forcefield keeping a thin buffer of air between us no matter if he was all over my tail, pulling alongside or even eeking out ahead... till the next straight Grin

The longer the race went, the harder it was to keep him back as I could see he was trying all different lines & speeds through each corner trying to make a pass stick. I might even whistling have resorted to slowing through quite a few corners so he wasn't getting a run on me as we came out of them angel & forcing the inside line on that triple right hander at the end of the lap saved me numerous times sweatdrop

But alas, on the final lap I fudged turn 2 & he was through, but no panic as I'll just get him going up the hill winkiss... but not if I accidentally catch a double gear shift :'( :'( :'(

Well done MJ, excellent patient & persistent driving display mate, exactly the driving standard/approach that this league has & always should aim for euro
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« Reply #46 on: June 27, 2013, 10:02:34 PM +0100 »

Must say I'm a bit worried about the disco fairy. It seems more than coincidence that we suffer in both PnG and in GTL. Server problem?

Makes you wonder, doesn't it. I've been 'visited' by the fairy a few times on a Thursday recently, but haven't had a disco for as long as I can remember on Wednesdays & Sundays at Nogrip (which uses the Gamers Crib server).


Personally, I think it's a dastardly Kerb Crawlers plan to win the championship...
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« Reply #47 on: June 27, 2013, 10:14:04 PM +0100 »

I managed to avoid most of the carnage on the first lap, although I was hit in the side by a Pantera. However, that didn't seem to affect the car, so I settled down to concentrate on keeping pace with Alessandro's Porsche. I was in P5 at the time, and I stayed in that position for a large percentage of the race. Then Alessandro suffered a disco on the long back straight, and I was up to P4. Then Animal Ed and Berger also suffered successive disconnections, and suddenly I was in P2 (although a long way behind Goldtop). My tyres were starting to wear down towards the end of the race, but I was very pleased to be able to keep Clive and one or two others around four seconds behind me, even in the latter stages of the race.

So, P2 is a great result, although this was partly because of the misfortunes of others. Still, I have had my fair share of disconnections in the past when in good position during races, so I will gladly take the points for the WSL Racing Team!

On a side note, why are the Corvettes of John and I shown as 70s Group 4 when they are actually Group 3 +2L? Only the Owens Corning 1971 cars are 70s Group 4.

Seems Editable?
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« Reply #48 on: June 27, 2013, 10:15:26 PM +0100 »

Results and Replay Posted

One of my fave tracks this, and I'm stuck up in Glasgow....

I am becoming really concerned about the discoes. Some people never disco. I have not discoed from one
of our races for years, with connections in two locations, one BT Infinity with a 1 gig LAN, and one very poor Sky "broadband"
ove a mains ethernet. Wherever I am only time I disco is when someone joins practice (and you can count one one hand
how many times a year that happens.)

I created a test server at my home over infinity as a back up server, people have connected to it in the past and stayed
connected when they were unable to stay connected to our real server which was a worry. I am not confident that it
could handle 20 or more racers reliably, but it will struggle to be worse than what has been happening recently.

I am happy to pay lots of money for a good service, but I seriously doubting that it is a good service.
This forum seems to be run by the same outfit now, and I often can't connect to this as well.
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« Reply #49 on: June 27, 2013, 10:19:21 PM +0100 »

Must say I'm a bit worried about the disco fairy. It seems more than coincidence that we suffer in both PnG and in GTL. Server problem?

Makes you wonder, doesn't it. I've been 'visited' by the fairy a few times on a Thursday recently, but haven't had a disco for as long as I can remember on Wednesdays & Sundays at Nogrip (which uses the Gamers Crib server).


Personally, I think it's a dastardly Kerb Crawlers plan to win the championship...

Drat, we've been sprung again Muttley  Smiley

Can't remember having any discos at NG PnG/GTL races (for me anyway) but I do suffer more than my fare share here.
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« Reply #50 on: June 27, 2013, 10:22:53 PM +0100 »

I can't seem to edit my post. It keeps saying that I have already posted the message, but all I am trying to do is edit it!
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« Reply #51 on: June 27, 2013, 10:25:34 PM +0100 »

The corvettes, and some of the 914 tyres are screwed up, because I made a wrong guess from my hotel room in
Hamilton.... I will sort it next week.
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« Reply #52 on: June 27, 2013, 10:35:23 PM +0100 »

You can clearly edit my post, but I can't. Very strange...

EDIT: It seems to be working now.
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« Reply #53 on: June 27, 2013, 11:21:11 PM +0100 »

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From then on it was a case of managing the gap and keeping concentration with Ed close enough to take advantage if I made a mistake. I had some trouble with wear on my front left Ed, so had to be very careful for a couple of laps, but then unfortunately you discoed and soon after that Mr. Berger which left me with an easy win.
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So we were both playing games with each other  Grin as I was also trying to keep you in the range but also to preserve tires as much as I can because I knew that last 4 or 5 laps will be critical. Unfortunatly I didn`t make it to that point ...

@ mogget  - vettes nr 11 and 12 are 70`s gr4 as they are from `71 but older ones are gr3+2l ... 530bhp against 470 for older ones except #44 which also have 530 ...
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« Reply #54 on: June 28, 2013, 09:39:53 AM +0100 »

Congrats to the podium, and commiserations to those that had problems. For me though that was an excellent race - spent pretty much all of it bottled up behind Clive's Pantera.. ..and enjoyed every minute!

Every lap was the same - I'd wave goodbye as Clive disappeared down the straights, only to catch back up and be held to his pace through the twisty bits. Got my nose ahead on more than one occasion, but never enough to make it stick. When Geoffers caught us I was happy to let him by to see if he could have a go at Clive instead, but after he had a slight off it was down to me again to take up the challenge.

Clive was just too consistent though and his defensive driving was impeccable - until the very last lap when he had a half-spin and a chink in the armour appeared.. Except this was at the end of the back-straight when Clive had pulled out his usual gap on me and I was not quite close enough to take advantage. Didn't stop me having a go at the next corner though but Clive parked himself on the apex and I lost momentum. Which in turn allowed Geoffers to close right up again and pinch P4 from me by 0.03 sec at the line. In fact I think 4 of us were covered by about a second at the end..

Great stuff.
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« Reply #55 on: June 28, 2013, 09:46:22 AM +0100 »

Big fun last night with a nice grid, it has been lot of time since my last race with you.
I was 7Th on the grid, but I lost some places at start. Soon after I gained some spots cause other misfortune. Speaking of, I think isn't healthy wait for someone on the line at first lap with all the pack coming in a twisty section. The less that can occur is to be rear ended, I missed a car for a hair, but others couldn't.  Wink
Then I had a long battle with Jarda Porsche. I could stretch my leg on the straights, but he was all over me in the twisty bits until I had an half spin at four lap to go when I had Geoffer on my back recovering after his spin some laps before.
Next time, I hope.
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« Reply #56 on: June 28, 2013, 01:03:26 PM +0100 »

well first off, thanks for the kind words Legzy, it was a pleasure doing battle with someone you know you can trust will not try and have you off at any opportunity, and although some of your blocking lines were 'questionable'  Wink on the whole it was blinking great stuff, offence v defence! Really enjoyed it  Cool  I had to get out the throttle quite a few times to avoid contact! but was grinning like a determined maniac  Grin

Didnt have a great qually, but still got it in top 10, always my objective. Race start i got jumped by about 5 cars! as usual...i really need to practise more starts offline! But kept out of trouble and avoiding the spinners until lap 2 when i got turned around a full 360 degrees for the 2nd race running  Roll Eyes and saw a whole half grid steaming at me and splitting around me like the red arrows. Alas TT had nowhere to go and ripped off my front valance and headlights  Sad Not watched the replay yet but i think a certain Italian driver may have to get a penalty warning this time as several other cars were hit by the same car i believe. detective and i saw a lot of contact first few laps for the 2nd race in a row. Calm down all...remember its 40minutes long!
The incident dropped me to 15th or so and a long way off the top 10 gap wise so that was my race points spoilt but carried on regardless in a forlorn chase. I had a good battle with Syd for a few laps (though my panel work guys were not so happy with the rabbit punches sustained to the rear and sides!) and then when i finally cleared him, set off on a chase of Legzys Fezza.
This then turned into an epic 12-15 lap ding dong battle of power v agility as mentioned in the first line. The ferrari looked great and it left me everytime down the straights but i'd close under braking and harass him in the apex's, but he didnt make any noticeable errors and fought tough but fair  thumbup1  Then with a lap to go he made his one mistake in turn 2-3 and i pounced up the inside and was through  Smiley  I immediately expected a counter attack with the fezzas power so it was my turn to drive defensive but it never came and Legzy sportingly followed me home.
Think i finished 8th after that but it felt like top 3 for the effort!  Smiley

Big congrats to GT on his triumphant return, great pace in the 914 and well done podium  Cool
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« Reply #57 on: June 28, 2013, 01:41:22 PM +0100 »

Wish I could drive a Porsche.  ;-(

Or wish that Matt would just put them in a race of their own.

It was the obvious choice but in my pre-race warm up I just couldn’t break into the 43s.

At the start I gained a few as they were slow off the line and then half way around the lap there was a spinner in the middle of the track.  I went to the inside and was just regaining my line when a humongus blue job cut across in front of me.  Guess that was Mogget, from his previous comment.  I thought that it was John and backed off, which established Mogget’s initial lead over me which I couldn’t do much about due to the constant attentions of frex and Geoffers.

Was good fun though.  Having said to frex that I thought I had been too generous in our encounter at Knockhill I was determined to keep the curb crawler behind me.  LOL  Then I had Geoffers bottled up as well!    

The critical factor was that the Pantera had enough grunt from a clean corner exit for me to see in my mirror that the following car was not alongside.  So the next corner was mine!

Think that I lost about a stone during the race and as frex has said, it all got a bit close on the last lap.  My fronts were locking up and I went wide at a couple of corners prior to the last lap episode but never with anyone close enough to cause a problem.
Geoffer’s Ferrari didn’t corner much better than the Pantera and was of similar pace in a straight line.  Many thanks to both for a good clean fight.

Grats to Tudor and a hearty well done to Mogget on a great Tank Drive.

Next week looks like a frex benefit as Matt has lobbed the Renault in the mix.  Another car that I can’t drive.

Without John’s disconnection we could have held the guttersnipes to a draw.   Roll Eyes

EDIT:  One of each of the four cars in the first four home must rate a success in someone's book.
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« Reply #58 on: June 28, 2013, 02:52:57 PM +0100 »

Next week looks like a frex benefit as Matt has lobbed the Renault in the mix.

Next week is Healeys isn't it? I'm no good in those.

Week after has the Alpine, but also Capris, Escorts and 911 so i'll be spoilt for choice there..  tt1
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« Reply #59 on: June 28, 2013, 03:44:28 PM +0100 »

Next week looks like a frex benefit as Matt has lobbed the Renault in the mix.

Next week is Healeys isn't it? I'm no good in those.

Week after has the Alpine, but also Capris, Escorts and 911 so i'll be spoilt for choice there..  tt1

You're right.  I was looking at the next one in this series.   oops
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