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  • A13 Silverstone: October 10, 2018
October 10, 2018, 08:00:00 PM +0100 - Silverstone (International) - UKAC TCR Series
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Jeffrey
 
Honda Civic TCR TCR 1 1:06.378
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1 20:16.289
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18 1:06.629
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Hankook  
Fabri Fibra
 Magnesium Team
VW Golf TCR TCR 2 +0.169
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2 +5.858
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18 1:06.597
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Hankook  
nfsw55
 
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 4 +0.222
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3 +10.359
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18 1:06.811
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Hankook  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
SEAT León {unknown} 5 +0.458
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4 +13.456
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18 1:06.934
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Hankook  
KDiesel
 
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 8 +0.837
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5 +26.712
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18 1:07.041
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Hankook  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Mercedes A45 AMG TCR TCR 10 +1.123
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6 (+2) +27.170
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18 1:07.362
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Hankook  
Stefan aka Postal
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 11 +1.365
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7 +27.390
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18 1:07.678
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Hankook  
Baikal
 
Subaru WRX TCR TCR 7 +0.751
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8 +31.620
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18 1:07.407
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Hankook  
Bob
 WSL Racing Team
Honda Civic TCR TCR 15 +1.803
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9 +33.471
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18 1:08.079
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Hankook  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 9 +0.944
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10 +35.583
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18 1:07.374
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Hankook  
frex
 Kerb Crawlers
Opel Astra TCR TCR 14 +1.573
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11 (+2) +46.439
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18 1:07.727
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Hankook  
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
VW Golf TCR TCR 13 +1.526
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12 (+2) +53.977
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18 1:08.253
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Hankook  
kaifos
 HDR Racing
VW Golf TCR TCR 6 +0.487
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13 +54.107
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18 1:06.864
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Hankook  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Audi RS3 TCR TCR 12 +1.507
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14 +2L
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16 1:08.382
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Hankook  
Itamar Yativ
 CORE Racing
Subaru WRX TCR TCR 3 +0.179
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15 +16L
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2 1:07.441
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Hankook  
Sutol
 
Honda Civic TCR TCR DNS ---
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Hankook  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Mercedes A45 AMG TCR TCR ---
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Hankook  
Manteos
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Honda Civic TCR TCR ---
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Hankook  
L4de
 
Opel Astra TCR TCR ---
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Hankook  
picnic
 Team Shark
Subaru WRX TCR TCR ---
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Hankook  
SRW
 Prodigy Racing
Ford Focus TCR TCR ---
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Hankook  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 0

RACE 1, LAP 1, STOWE CORNER

Simon Gymer hits Kai from behind on the corner exit putting him into a spin off track in front of the following cars.Too aggressive on cold tyres trying to push through the car ahead. Simon continues on unscathed whilst Kai loses many places.

  • Simon Gymerpenalty — Rear end contact — 2 places lost


Server replay time: 0

RACE 1, LAP 1, STOWE CORNER

Spanner hits MJonzo in side rear quarter punting him off track into a spin. Too aggressive on cold tyres tying to push through the car ahead regardless. If he hadnt hit me first he was about to hit Kai's spinning car from Sharks contact ahead.


Server replay time: 0

RACE 1, LAP 1, VALE CORNER

Spanner gets hit mid apex by Frex's spinning car. Frex had tried a move up the inside but when he hit the brakes his car went into a spin and collected Spanner. Would have been harsh to give Frex a penalty for cold brake bias but he then performed a bad rejoin and T-Boned spanners recovering car pushing him off track a second time.

  • frexpenalty — Bad rejoin and contact — 2 places lost


Server replay time: 0

RACE 1, LAP 2, BECKETS CORNER

Syd Drake gets hit from behind by Kai whilst braking for Beckets corner. Syd may have braked a little earlier than the fast guys might but Kai should still have given more braking distance and hits Syd quite hard into a spin.

  • kaifos (Kai Syvertsen)penalty — Rear end contact — 2 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Assetto Corsa
{unknown}
1:06.836
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FullMetalGasket
Qualifying
SEAT LeónOctober 10, 2018, 08:00:00 PM +0100
A13
Assetto Corsa
TCR
1:06.378
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Jeffrey
Qualifying
Honda Civic TCROctober 10, 2018, 08:00:00 PM +0100
A13
Assetto Corsa
TCR
1:06.597
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Fabri Fibra
Race
VW Golf TCROctober 10, 2018, 08:00:00 PM +0100
A13
October 10, 2018, 09:00:00 PM +0100 - Silverstone (International) - UKAC TCR Series
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
kaifos
 HDR Racing
VW Golf TCR TCR 13 1 20:37.303
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18 1:06.984
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Hankook  
KDiesel
 
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 7 2 +1.144
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18 1:07.426
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Hankook  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Mercedes A45 AMG TCR TCR 8 3 +1.535
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18 1:07.222
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Hankook  
Jeffrey
 
Honda Civic TCR TCR 3 4 +1.958
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18 1:06.771
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Hankook  
nfsw55
 
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 5 5 +4.391
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18 1:07.125
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Hankook  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
SEAT León {unknown} 6 6 +4.663
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18 1:06.712
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Hankook  
Baikal
 
Subaru WRX TCR TCR 10 7 (+1) +9.687
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18 1:07.398
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Hankook  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 1 8 +9.961
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18 1:07.568
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Hankook  
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
VW Golf TCR TCR 12 9 +11.386
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18 1:07.406
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Hankook  
Fabri Fibra
 Magnesium Team
VW Golf TCR TCR 4 10 +11.868
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18 1:07.015
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Hankook  
frex
 Kerb Crawlers
Opel Astra TCR TCR 11 11 +14.192
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18 1:07.644
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Hankook  
Bob
 WSL Racing Team
Honda Civic TCR TCR 2 12 +18.055
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18 1:07.709
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Hankook  
Stefan aka Postal
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 9 13 +19.344
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18 1:07.744
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Hankook  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Audi RS3 TCR TCR 14 14 +30.697
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18 1:07.985
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Hankook  
SRW
 Prodigy Racing
Ford Focus TCR TCR 15 +1L
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17 1:09.510
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Hankook  
Manteos
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Honda Civic TCR TCR DNS ---
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Hankook  
L4de
 
Opel Astra TCR TCR ---
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Hankook  
Sutol
 
Honda Civic TCR TCR ---
---
Hankook  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Mercedes A45 AMG TCR TCR ---
---
Hankook  
picnic
 Team Shark
Subaru WRX TCR TCR ---
---
Hankook  
Itamar Yativ
 CORE Racing
Subaru WRX TCR TCR 15 ---
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Hankook  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 0

RACE 2, LAP 2, ABBEY CORNER

Alexey and Bob clash at Abbey. In the reverse grid Bob finds himself surrounded by the front guys, he moves over to the kerbline mid corner, where he is hit from behind by Alexey (Baikal) and spun out. However Bob suddenly appeared in front of Baikal leaving him no time to react as already committed to the corner.

  • Baikal (Alexey Luzin)advice — Racing Incident, no further action
  • Bobadvice — Racing Incident, no further action


Server replay time: 0

RACE 2, LAP 4, VALE CORNER

Stefan and Kimi are both heading down to Vale with Stefan on left and Kimi on right. Kimi has a third of his car alongside. They both brake for Vale left hander but Stefan moves over slightly right under braking and the two cars touch. Stefan is spun off and hits the barrier. But watching from Kimis dash, he doesnt move whereas Stefan moved across. Stefan should have kept the inside line for the left hand turn ideally. Racing incident - no action.


Server replay time: 0

RACE 2, LAP 7?, VALE CORNER

Baikal and Fabri are heading down to Vale left hand turn. Fabri has the ideal racing line on the right with Baikal on the left. Baikal gradually converges into Fabri and they brush side by side (door rubbing!) but Fabris car gets punted sideways right, probably due to the dodgy collision detection or Baikals high ping on the night. The contact should have been nothing in the real world. However Alex could have given more room and kept the inside line for the left hander.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Assetto Corsa
{unknown}
1:06.712
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FullMetalGasket
Race
SEAT LeónOctober 10, 2018, 09:00:00 PM +0100
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« on: October 04, 2018, 09:41:53 AM +0100 »



Championship Standings[/center]

Practise: 19:30 (45 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30  2 x (20 minutes)

Cars allowed:
All TCR mod cars (Audi TT excluded)

You will require the following Mod's installed on your PC:

TCR Mod (Equalised)
https://mega.nz/#!HzRWwaAA!nVPErhfkbjC_jzjzzURncwToxYi7UAbWqI5xvaTdJOM

Track: Silverstone (International)



Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Weather: mid clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: normal

Laptimes:-
stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 80%

Password: see above

PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.

Notes:
(1)PLP App - Not used in this event. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.
(2)Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules especially the rules about in-game chat messages.
(3) Door rubbing is acceptable, blatant punting is not !  Expect to receive a penalty if caught or reported.
(4) Please follow the SROUK guidelines for using kerbs etc. Please keep 2 wheels on the track surface (kerbs do not count as track surface)
Excessive cutting of corners will seen as cheating and the results may be altered to reflect this.
5) DO NOT leave the server at end of race 1, as the grid will hopefully re-organise into reverse grid for race 2.
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2018, 05:22:23 PM +0100 »

Not sure I can make it Angry
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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2018, 12:18:26 AM +0100 »

Love this track, this car, and her sound.
If not 20 min format i'd prefer GP config and 35 minutes races  Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2018, 09:52:29 AM +0100 »

I’m not such a fan of this layout, it’s silverstone without all the best corners!  Tongue
But nice and wide for close racing at least.
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2018, 09:22:44 PM +0100 »

So any advice setup wise how I can dial out some of the understeer in the fast corners like abbeys and stowe? Compared to default setup, I've lowered the wing to 0, and set tire pressures to 19 on front and 20 on rears. Not really done much setup changes in any sim before, outside of gear ratios, which you can not change here.
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2018, 09:29:38 PM +0100 »

Stiffening the rear is the right way forward for fwd race cars. So rear springs and rear anti roll bar. Several sources recommend more rear toe out too.  I softened the front a tad too but it does make the car a bit sloppier through fast direction changes.
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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2018, 09:36:52 PM +0100 »

I experimented with the setup. With default I did a low 1:07 and with my Vallelunga setup a 1:06.9 Then I tried the car on hardest and softest settings on everything and...I went faster. I did my fastest lap with a nonsense setup with everything set at the stiffest and max toe out front and back  Roll Eyes. Everything on softest was pretty much just as fast.

Will need to see what softest front and stiffest rear does  Grin
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2018, 08:37:25 AM +0100 »

But to be fair Jeff, you have your own unique alien way of driving. Not watched one of your laps for a while but in the past when i did, you had an alien way of cornering where the car almost flicks into a corner (maybe rear brake bias?) but been a while as i say, maybe you drive more like a human these days  Grin

Plus we cant deny, altering the setup of these does improve a lap time if you get it right.
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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2018, 09:02:53 AM +0100 »

But to be fair Jeff, you have your own unique alien way of driving. Not watched one of your laps for a while but in the past when i did, you had an alien way of cornering where the car almost flicks into a corner (maybe rear brake bias?) but been a while as i say, maybe you drive more like a human these days  Grin

Plus we cant deny, altering the setup of these does improve a lap time if you get it right.

What I meant was more towards, I went to both extremes and they were equally fast, so I have no idea what works not  Tongue.
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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2018, 06:38:47 PM +0100 »

Provisional driver list for tomorrows race:-

1) MJ - Alfa #36
2) Postal - Alfa #38
3) Baikal - Subaru #111
4) nfsw - Alfa #4
5) Jeff - #77 Honda Type R
6) Picnic - Subaru #32
7) SRW - Ford Focus #17
8_) Fabri - Golf (leopard)
9) Spanner - Golf (yellow) - plain yellow?!
10) Shark - Adam Morgan Mercedes 33
11) FMG - SEAT Leon #7 James_west
12) Matteo - Honda Type R #32
13) Frex - Opel #44
14) Bob - Honda Civic #26 mugen
15) Phspok - Moffat Mercedes #16
16) Sutol - Honda Civic 07_castrol
17) J. Lakkonnen - Opel Astra #22
18) Kimi Dieseli - Alfa #61
19) Kai Syvertsen - Golf LeForce
20) Syd Drake - Audi RS3 # 49
21( Itamar Yativ - Subaru wrx #29
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2018, 06:44:36 PM +0100 »

Apart from trying what Jeffrey said, brake bias can help but be careful, it can also unbalance the car or too much rear bias can increase braking distance.
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2018, 08:01:19 PM +0100 »

Stiffening the rear is the right way forward for fwd race cars. So rear springs and rear anti roll bar. Several sources recommend more rear toe out too.  I softened the front a tad too but it does make the car a bit sloppier through fast direction changes.

I found rear anti roll bar settings in suspension. But where are springs settings? Or did you mean wheel height from the same settings screen as anti rollbar?
As far as brake bias goes, I tried going down to 65 but the rear gets too unstable under braking, so I'm keeping it at 70 (75 until tires warm up).
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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2018, 08:59:29 PM +0100 »

Pretty sure springs are referred to as spring rate in AC for most cars - it's normally the screen before bump stops
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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2018, 09:10:06 PM +0100 »

I did send you my setup on the practise server and tell you it was there but you ignored both Syd  Tongue

Springs are on same page as anti roll bar ! Might be called ‘wheel rate’  Undecided
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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2018, 09:53:55 PM +0100 »

Sorry, didn't see any messages on the server Smiley I think they might be turned off when I'm in the car. Yeah, there is wheel rate on that suspension screen.
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