Mark J
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« on: October 04, 2018, 09:41:53 AM +0100 » |
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Championship Standings[/center] Practise: 19:30 (45 mins) Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)Race: 20:30 2 x (20 minutes) Cars allowed: All TCR mod cars (Audi TT excluded) You will require the following Mod's installed on your PC: TCR Mod (Equalised)https://mega.nz/#!HzRWwaAA!nVPErhfkbjC_jzjzzURncwToxYi7UAbWqI5xvaTdJOMTrack: Silverstone (International)
Time of Day Setting: 14:00 Weather: mid clear Start: Standing Tyre wear: Normal Fuel consumption: normal
Laptimes:- stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat
Server track settings: SESSION_START=100 RANDOMNESS=0 LAP_GAIN=0 SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a
Damage: 80%
Password: see above
PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.
Notes: (1)PLP App - Not used in this event. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting. (2)Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules especially the rules about in-game chat messages. (3) Door rubbing is acceptable, blatant punting is not ! Expect to receive a penalty if caught or reported. (4) Please follow the SROUK guidelines for using kerbs etc. Please keep 2 wheels on the track surface (kerbs do not count as track surface) Excessive cutting of corners will seen as cheating and the results may be altered to reflect this. 5) DO NOT leave the server at end of race 1, as the grid will hopefully re-organise into reverse grid for race 2.
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« Last Edit: October 06, 2018, 05:31:11 PM +0100 by Mark J »
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Sutol
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2018, 05:22:23 PM +0100 » |
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Not sure I can make it
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Still learning so be patient
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Baikal
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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2018, 12:18:26 AM +0100 » |
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Love this track, this car, and her sound. If not 20 min format i'd prefer GP config and 35 minutes races
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Mark J
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2018, 09:52:29 AM +0100 » |
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I’m not such a fan of this layout, it’s silverstone without all the best corners! But nice and wide for close racing at least.
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Syd Drake
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2018, 09:22:44 PM +0100 » |
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So any advice setup wise how I can dial out some of the understeer in the fast corners like abbeys and stowe? Compared to default setup, I've lowered the wing to 0, and set tire pressures to 19 on front and 20 on rears. Not really done much setup changes in any sim before, outside of gear ratios, which you can not change here.
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Mark J
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2018, 09:29:38 PM +0100 » |
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Stiffening the rear is the right way forward for fwd race cars. So rear springs and rear anti roll bar. Several sources recommend more rear toe out too. I softened the front a tad too but it does make the car a bit sloppier through fast direction changes.
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Jeffrey
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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2018, 09:36:52 PM +0100 » |
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I experimented with the setup. With default I did a low 1:07 and with my Vallelunga setup a 1:06.9 Then I tried the car on hardest and softest settings on everything and...I went faster. I did my fastest lap with a nonsense setup with everything set at the stiffest and max toe out front and back . Everything on softest was pretty much just as fast. Will need to see what softest front and stiffest rear does
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Mark J
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2018, 08:37:25 AM +0100 » |
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But to be fair Jeff, you have your own unique alien way of driving. Not watched one of your laps for a while but in the past when i did, you had an alien way of cornering where the car almost flicks into a corner (maybe rear brake bias?) but been a while as i say, maybe you drive more like a human these days Plus we cant deny, altering the setup of these does improve a lap time if you get it right.
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Jeffrey
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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2018, 09:02:53 AM +0100 » |
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But to be fair Jeff, you have your own unique alien way of driving. Not watched one of your laps for a while but in the past when i did, you had an alien way of cornering where the car almost flicks into a corner (maybe rear brake bias?) but been a while as i say, maybe you drive more like a human these days Plus we cant deny, altering the setup of these does improve a lap time if you get it right. What I meant was more towards, I went to both extremes and they were equally fast, so I have no idea what works not .
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Mark J
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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2018, 06:38:47 PM +0100 » |
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Provisional driver list for tomorrows race:-
1) MJ - Alfa #36 2) Postal - Alfa #38 3) Baikal - Subaru #111 4) nfsw - Alfa #4 5) Jeff - #77 Honda Type R 6) Picnic - Subaru #32 7) SRW - Ford Focus #17 8_) Fabri - Golf (leopard) 9) Spanner - Golf (yellow) - plain yellow?! 10) Shark - Adam Morgan Mercedes 33 11) FMG - SEAT Leon #7 James_west 12) Matteo - Honda Type R #32 13) Frex - Opel #44 14) Bob - Honda Civic #26 mugen 15) Phspok - Moffat Mercedes #16 16) Sutol - Honda Civic 07_castrol 17) J. Lakkonnen - Opel Astra #22 18) Kimi Dieseli - Alfa #61 19) Kai Syvertsen - Golf LeForce 20) Syd Drake - Audi RS3 # 49 21( Itamar Yativ - Subaru wrx #29
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2018, 06:44:36 PM +0100 » |
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Apart from trying what Jeffrey said, brake bias can help but be careful, it can also unbalance the car or too much rear bias can increase braking distance.
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Syd Drake
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2018, 08:01:19 PM +0100 » |
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Stiffening the rear is the right way forward for fwd race cars. So rear springs and rear anti roll bar. Several sources recommend more rear toe out too. I softened the front a tad too but it does make the car a bit sloppier through fast direction changes.
I found rear anti roll bar settings in suspension. But where are springs settings? Or did you mean wheel height from the same settings screen as anti rollbar? As far as brake bias goes, I tried going down to 65 but the rear gets too unstable under braking, so I'm keeping it at 70 (75 until tires warm up).
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FullMetalGasket
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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2018, 08:59:29 PM +0100 » |
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Pretty sure springs are referred to as spring rate in AC for most cars - it's normally the screen before bump stops
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Mark J
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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2018, 09:10:06 PM +0100 » |
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I did send you my setup on the practise server and tell you it was there but you ignored both Syd Springs are on same page as anti roll bar ! Might be called ‘wheel rate’
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Syd Drake
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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2018, 09:53:55 PM +0100 » |
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Sorry, didn't see any messages on the server I think they might be turned off when I'm in the car. Yeah, there is wheel rate on that suspension screen.
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