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  • A13 Silverstone: October 10, 2018
October 10, 2018, 08:00:00 PM +0100 - Silverstone (International) - UKAC Season 13 TCR Series
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Jeffrey
 
Honda Civic TCR TCR 1 1:06.378
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1 20:16.289
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18 1:06.629
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Hankook  
Fabri Fibra
 Magnesium Team
VW Golf TCR TCR 2 +0.169
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2 +5.858
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18 1:06.597
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Hankook  
nfsw55
 
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 4 +0.222
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3 +10.359
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18 1:06.811
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Hankook  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
SEAT León {unknown} 5 +0.458
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4 +13.456
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18 1:06.934
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Hankook  
KDiesel
 
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 8 +0.837
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5 +26.712
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18 1:07.041
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Hankook  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Mercedes A45 AMG TCR TCR 10 +1.123
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6 (+2) +27.170
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18 1:07.362
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Hankook  
Stefan aka Postal
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 11 +1.365
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7 +27.390
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18 1:07.678
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Hankook  
Baikal
 
Subaru WRX TCR TCR 7 +0.751
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8 +31.620
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18 1:07.407
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Hankook  
Bob
 WSL Racing Team
Honda Civic TCR TCR 15 +1.803
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9 +33.471
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18 1:08.079
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Hankook  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 9 +0.944
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10 +35.583
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18 1:07.374
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Hankook  
frex
 Kerb Crawlers
Opel Astra TCR TCR 14 +1.573
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11 (+2) +46.439
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18 1:07.727
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Hankook  
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
VW Golf TCR TCR 13 +1.526
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12 (+2) +53.977
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18 1:08.253
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Hankook  
kaifos
 HDR Racing
VW Golf TCR TCR 6 +0.487
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13 +54.107
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18 1:06.864
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Hankook  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Audi RS3 TCR TCR 12 +1.507
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14 +2L
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16 1:08.382
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Hankook  
Itamar Yativ
 CORE Racing
Subaru WRX TCR TCR 3 +0.179
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15 +16L
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2 1:07.441
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Hankook  
Sutol
 
Honda Civic TCR TCR DNS ---
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Hankook  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Mercedes A45 AMG TCR TCR ---
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Hankook  
Manteos
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Honda Civic TCR TCR ---
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Hankook  
L4de
 
Opel Astra TCR TCR ---
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Hankook  
picnic
 Team Shark
Subaru WRX TCR TCR ---
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Hankook  
SRW
 Prodigy Racing
Ford Focus TCR TCR ---
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Hankook  

Moderator's Report

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RACE 1, LAP 1, STOWE CORNER

Simon Gymer hits Kai from behind on the corner exit putting him into a spin off track in front of the following cars.Too aggressive on cold tyres trying to push through the car ahead. Simon continues on unscathed whilst Kai loses many places.

  • Simon Gymerpenalty — Rear end contact — 2 places lost


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RACE 1, LAP 1, STOWE CORNER

Spanner hits MJonzo in side rear quarter punting him off track into a spin. Too aggressive on cold tyres tying to push through the car ahead regardless. If he hadnt hit me first he was about to hit Kai's spinning car from Sharks contact ahead.


Server replay time: 0

RACE 1, LAP 1, VALE CORNER

Spanner gets hit mid apex by Frex's spinning car. Frex had tried a move up the inside but when he hit the brakes his car went into a spin and collected Spanner. Would have been harsh to give Frex a penalty for cold brake bias but he then performed a bad rejoin and T-Boned spanners recovering car pushing him off track a second time.

  • frexpenalty — Bad rejoin and contact — 2 places lost


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RACE 1, LAP 2, BECKETS CORNER

Syd Drake gets hit from behind by Kai whilst braking for Beckets corner. Syd may have braked a little earlier than the fast guys might but Kai should still have given more braking distance and hits Syd quite hard into a spin.

  • kaifos (Kai Syvertsen)penalty — Rear end contact — 2 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Assetto Corsa
{unknown}
1:06.836
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FullMetalGasket
Qualifying
SEAT LeónOctober 10, 2018, 08:00:00 PM +0100
A13
Assetto Corsa
TCR
1:06.378
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Jeffrey
Qualifying
Honda Civic TCROctober 10, 2018, 08:00:00 PM +0100
A13
Assetto Corsa
TCR
1:06.597
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Fabri Fibra
Race
VW Golf TCROctober 10, 2018, 08:00:00 PM +0100
A13
October 10, 2018, 09:00:00 PM +0100 - Silverstone (International) - UKAC Season 13 TCR Series
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
kaifos
 HDR Racing
VW Golf TCR TCR 13 1 20:37.303
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18 1:06.984
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Hankook  
KDiesel
 
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 7 2 +1.144
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18 1:07.426
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Hankook  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Mercedes A45 AMG TCR TCR 8 3 +1.535
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18 1:07.222
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Hankook  
Jeffrey
 
Honda Civic TCR TCR 3 4 +1.958
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18 1:06.771
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Hankook  
nfsw55
 
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 5 5 +4.391
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18 1:07.125
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Hankook  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
SEAT León {unknown} 6 6 +4.663
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18 1:06.712
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Hankook  
Baikal
 
Subaru WRX TCR TCR 10 7 (+1) +9.687
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18 1:07.398
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Hankook  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 1 8 +9.961
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18 1:07.568
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Hankook  
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
VW Golf TCR TCR 12 9 +11.386
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18 1:07.406
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Hankook  
Fabri Fibra
 Magnesium Team
VW Golf TCR TCR 4 10 +11.868
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18 1:07.015
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Hankook  
frex
 Kerb Crawlers
Opel Astra TCR TCR 11 11 +14.192
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18 1:07.644
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Hankook  
Bob
 WSL Racing Team
Honda Civic TCR TCR 2 12 +18.055
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18 1:07.709
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Hankook  
Stefan aka Postal
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo Giulietta TCR TCR 9 13 +19.344
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18 1:07.744
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Hankook  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Audi RS3 TCR TCR 14 14 +30.697
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18 1:07.985
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Hankook  
SRW
 Prodigy Racing
Ford Focus TCR TCR 15 +1L
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17 1:09.510
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Hankook  
Manteos
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Honda Civic TCR TCR DNS ---
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Hankook  
L4de
 
Opel Astra TCR TCR ---
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Hankook  
Sutol
 
Honda Civic TCR TCR ---
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Hankook  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Mercedes A45 AMG TCR TCR ---
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Hankook  
picnic
 Team Shark
Subaru WRX TCR TCR ---
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Hankook  
Itamar Yativ
 CORE Racing
Subaru WRX TCR TCR 15 ---
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Hankook  

Moderator's Report

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RACE 2, LAP 2, ABBEY CORNER

Alexey and Bob clash at Abbey. In the reverse grid Bob finds himself surrounded by the front guys, he moves over to the kerbline mid corner, where he is hit from behind by Alexey (Baikal) and spun out. However Bob suddenly appeared in front of Baikal leaving him no time to react as already committed to the corner.

  • Baikal (Alexey Luzin)advice — Racing Incident, no further action
  • Bobadvice — Racing Incident, no further action


Server replay time: 0

RACE 2, LAP 4, VALE CORNER

Stefan and Kimi are both heading down to Vale with Stefan on left and Kimi on right. Kimi has a third of his car alongside. They both brake for Vale left hander but Stefan moves over slightly right under braking and the two cars touch. Stefan is spun off and hits the barrier. But watching from Kimis dash, he doesnt move whereas Stefan moved across. Stefan should have kept the inside line for the left hand turn ideally. Racing incident - no action.


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RACE 2, LAP 7?, VALE CORNER

Baikal and Fabri are heading down to Vale left hand turn. Fabri has the ideal racing line on the right with Baikal on the left. Baikal gradually converges into Fabri and they brush side by side (door rubbing!) but Fabris car gets punted sideways right, probably due to the dodgy collision detection or Baikals high ping on the night. The contact should have been nothing in the real world. However Alex could have given more room and kept the inside line for the left hander.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Assetto Corsa
{unknown}
1:06.712
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FullMetalGasket
Race
SEAT LeónOctober 10, 2018, 09:00:00 PM +0100
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« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2018, 09:54:47 PM +0100 »

Wow, sorry Spanner - I've just looked at the race 1 replay and see I knocked you off track during my spin near the end of lap 1. And to rub salt into the wound I then collected you again as I rejoined..! I'm so sorry, I thought I had spun all on my own, and was alone and dead last - didn't realise you were nearby. So sorry  oops
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« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2018, 09:55:25 PM +0100 »

I'm for 100% damage. Even if it punishes the victim, it punishes the perpetrator too. I don't see a problem with retirements due to damage.
After surviving the melee at the start of the first race and getting to 9th, I got spun out by a much faster driver because he couldn't wait even one turn to pass me. Then a lap or two later, got spun again, I think by the same driver. I almost wish I was too damaged to continue, not much fun driving way behind everyone else from that point on.
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« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2018, 09:56:52 PM +0100 »

MY REPLAY
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« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2018, 10:22:49 PM +0100 »

Might have joined as I like this series, but the event was not showing up in the org.uk list
only the Aussie rules one.
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« Reply #34 on: October 10, 2018, 10:29:28 PM +0100 »

Might have joined as I like this series, but the event was not showing up in the org.uk list
only the Aussie rules one.

Yeah I get that a lot, but it usually shows up for me if I refresh the server list.
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« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2018, 10:35:11 PM +0100 »

Race 1 was pretty clean for me, I dropped a lot of spaces in the first lap or 2 avoiding other people - but as a result in gained several by avoiding other people  Wink
As a result I got 4th, not sure I was fast enough here to have earned it otherwise.

In race 2 I got bumped around a fair bit at the start, but from what I can see in the replay nothing unfair or questionable was behind it.
Apologies to Alexi for the spin, in the race I was convinced you had tried blocking me when entering the s/f straight because you suddenly moved across, so I didn't wait as it did not appear to be my fault.  I see from the replay that you had been on the slippy stuff on the outside and presumably didn't see me inside as you didn't really try to change your line, sorry but it happened so fast I couldn't do anything.

This contact allowed Jeffrey to catch me and a few laps later we ended up having some epic side by side fights for a lap or two. Sadly this ended when I caught a curb and we bumped.
It was great fun while it lasted, as were the battles with Fabri and the Alfa I finished behind.
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« Reply #36 on: October 10, 2018, 10:53:27 PM +0100 »

Shame the great racing is being tarnished by the incidents again  Sad  I am just downloading Jeffs replay and will watch tomorrow eve, but please report incidents via the incident report that comes up below the results. First lap contacts are getting penalties unless circumstances out of a drivers control or blame cant be apportioned, and I am going to keep that policy for future rounds. devil

Race 1 for me was ruined on the first lap yet again  Roll Eyes whoevers following should be looking beyond the back of my car. If two cars spin in front of me i'm going to ease off the throttle and don't expect to be punted off  gun_bandana  By the time I rejoined I was 10 seconds down on the two guys i'd expected to be fighting the whole race. Then saw several other cars have contact and regained a few places. Gradually closed on Bob but when I caught him my front tyres turned to mush and I just couldn't close any tighter with ever increasing understeer. Finished 10th.

Race 2, was on pole, managed to survive nearly the whole first lap unscathed, but then ridiculously got a bizarre cold braking reaction at the tight left that threw me stage right off the track  clown (I had switched brake bias further back from race 1 but forgot!) so still lost a load of places Hit with a wet fish But then had a great race with many cars including Frex, Spanner and Alexey, whilst watching other cars duelling ahead, right to the flag. Was great fun and particularly enjoyed fighting Spanners Golf and getting past after many laps    finished 8th.
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« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2018, 10:56:17 PM +0100 »

First race good, no problems racing with MJ, second race shunted off track race ruined, on reversed grids some sort of care should be exercised when one of the slowest drivers finds himself second on the grid. This sort of action tarnishes Wed night racing for me.
So sorry Bob for incedent. But before you post , please, see replay first  Smiley It is not my fault ... Wink So, don't give up and race!  Smiley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQtb0PHhVFE&feature=youtu.be

Sorry guys - i was too slow in last turns esses , was very angry for contacts and track offs from my rear, but now a bit easy  Smiley
Thanks for the races and see you all in next round!  devil
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« Reply #38 on: October 10, 2018, 11:26:26 PM +0100 »

Race 2 was bit a bordel. The start was fun, with a good battle with Jef and FMG. Sorry for small contact at first lap, FMG. Then (maybe lap 12) my race went totaly to putains because Alexey pushed me out on braking before chicane. Man, if you are not able to brake side by side it is a problem. We can increase the damage as much as 500% but if you don't know the basics of being for stay on track, the contacts will always happen.

I always thought that I would not report any incidents but in this case I will do it. Embarrassing! Angry

Sorry for that Fabri, but to be honest , i was mistaken in weight transfer braking moment car behavier, trying to be so wide with you in track as possible for turn. But you have a same problem too, ( but less) You moved into me too , having big free space in right side. Wink
But my brake problem is bigger  Smiley
PS. In race time i was non sense about my moving fauls ( may be you too?)  and so, not so embarrassing for that here. Otherwise i always returns a position when my faults is in fact for me.   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD1WlaXYXyY&feature=youtu.be
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« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2018, 11:47:45 PM +0100 »



In race 2 I got bumped around a fair bit at the start, but from what I can see in the replay nothing unfair or questionable was behind it.
Apologies to Alexi for the spin, in the race I was convinced you had tried blocking me when entering the s/f straight because you suddenly moved across, so I didn't wait as it did not appear to be my fault.  I see from the replay that you had been on the slippy stuff on the outside and presumably didn't see me inside as you didn't really try to change your line, sorry but it happened so fast I couldn't do anything.

Same for me, FMG.  Replays usually brings a things more clear  Smiley 
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« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2018, 06:28:54 AM +0100 »

[So sorry Bob for incedent. But before you post , please, see replay first   It is not my fault ...  So, don't give up and race! ]           Just a little bit of patience needed on the first lap was really what I was trying to say, not trying to get in the way, could have been overtaken without problems further on the lap. Some calming down is needed at the race starts. Found myself in a position not used to and was trying to be careful on first few corners.
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« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2018, 06:49:20 AM +0100 »

Alexey, the replay is so clear, you caused the accident.
About the Jeffrey argument, if is better have high damages % or punishments, I think is more about know how stay on track with others cars close. I don't like punishment way.
Most of contacts are did for stupid things, easy to avoid if players know how stay on a track.

Alexey is moving for another step: when people do stuff on track and want have reason. This step is the more dangerous because it is hard be clear if you never understand by your mistakes and want have reason.
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« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2018, 06:50:57 AM +0100 »

The accident between me and Alexey is really stupid and if we are not able to battle in a easy braking side by side in straight, racing have no sense. Race 2 will be every time a Russian roulette.
Alexey, how many contacts did you cause in that race? I remember also a accident against PorcoRosso at Monza with the 962, in braking too. You are recidivest.
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« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2018, 07:31:33 AM +0100 »

Fabri, i say again- my mistake is bigger than you in that case. And yes- it's a measurement mistake.  Remembering 962 races and may be earlies is bad idea. If i will remember all others pilots faults in peletone ( not  top as you) - i will kill myself better.  Wink
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« Reply #44 on: October 11, 2018, 07:38:10 AM +0100 »

Fabri, i say again- my mistake is bigger than you in that case. And yes- it's a measurement mistake.  Remembering 962 races and may be earlies is bad idea. If i will remember all others pilots faults in peletone ( not  top as you) - i will kill myself better.  Wink
So for you, your mistake is bigger than mine. My mistake was stay on track when you are driving? Lol
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