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« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2018, 09:54:47 PM +0100 » |
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Wow, sorry Spanner - I've just looked at the race 1 replay and see I knocked you off track during my spin near the end of lap 1. And to rub salt into the wound I then collected you again as I rejoined..! I'm so sorry, I thought I had spun all on my own, and was alone and dead last - didn't realise you were nearby. So sorry
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« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2018, 09:55:25 PM +0100 » |
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I'm for 100% damage. Even if it punishes the victim, it punishes the perpetrator too. I don't see a problem with retirements due to damage. After surviving the melee at the start of the first race and getting to 9th, I got spun out by a much faster driver because he couldn't wait even one turn to pass me. Then a lap or two later, got spun again, I think by the same driver. I almost wish I was too damaged to continue, not much fun driving way behind everyone else from that point on.
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« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2018, 09:56:52 PM +0100 » |
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« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2018, 10:22:49 PM +0100 » |
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Might have joined as I like this series, but the event was not showing up in the org.uk list only the Aussie rules one.
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« Reply #34 on: October 10, 2018, 10:29:28 PM +0100 » |
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Might have joined as I like this series, but the event was not showing up in the org.uk list only the Aussie rules one.
Yeah I get that a lot, but it usually shows up for me if I refresh the server list.
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« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2018, 10:35:11 PM +0100 » |
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Race 1 was pretty clean for me, I dropped a lot of spaces in the first lap or 2 avoiding other people - but as a result in gained several by avoiding other people As a result I got 4th, not sure I was fast enough here to have earned it otherwise. In race 2 I got bumped around a fair bit at the start, but from what I can see in the replay nothing unfair or questionable was behind it. Apologies to Alexi for the spin, in the race I was convinced you had tried blocking me when entering the s/f straight because you suddenly moved across, so I didn't wait as it did not appear to be my fault. I see from the replay that you had been on the slippy stuff on the outside and presumably didn't see me inside as you didn't really try to change your line, sorry but it happened so fast I couldn't do anything. This contact allowed Jeffrey to catch me and a few laps later we ended up having some epic side by side fights for a lap or two. Sadly this ended when I caught a curb and we bumped. It was great fun while it lasted, as were the battles with Fabri and the Alfa I finished behind.
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« Reply #36 on: October 10, 2018, 10:53:27 PM +0100 » |
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Shame the great racing is being tarnished by the incidents again I am just downloading Jeffs replay and will watch tomorrow eve, but please report incidents via the incident report that comes up below the results. First lap contacts are getting penalties unless circumstances out of a drivers control or blame cant be apportioned, and I am going to keep that policy for future rounds. Race 1 for me was ruined on the first lap yet again whoevers following should be looking beyond the back of my car. If two cars spin in front of me i'm going to ease off the throttle and don't expect to be punted off By the time I rejoined I was 10 seconds down on the two guys i'd expected to be fighting the whole race. Then saw several other cars have contact and regained a few places. Gradually closed on Bob but when I caught him my front tyres turned to mush and I just couldn't close any tighter with ever increasing understeer. Finished 10th. Race 2, was on pole, managed to survive nearly the whole first lap unscathed, but then ridiculously got a bizarre cold braking reaction at the tight left that threw me stage right off the track (I had switched brake bias further back from race 1 but forgot!) so still lost a load of places But then had a great race with many cars including Frex, Spanner and Alexey, whilst watching other cars duelling ahead, right to the flag. Was great fun and particularly enjoyed fighting Spanners Golf and getting past after many laps finished 8th.
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« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2018, 10:56:17 PM +0100 » |
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First race good, no problems racing with MJ, second race shunted off track race ruined, on reversed grids some sort of care should be exercised when one of the slowest drivers finds himself second on the grid. This sort of action tarnishes Wed night racing for me.
So sorry Bob for incedent. But before you post , please, see replay first It is not my fault ... So, don't give up and race! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQtb0PHhVFE&feature=youtu.beSorry guys - i was too slow in last turns esses , was very angry for contacts and track offs from my rear, but now a bit easy Thanks for the races and see you all in next round!
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« Reply #38 on: October 10, 2018, 11:26:26 PM +0100 » |
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Race 2 was bit a bordel. The start was fun, with a good battle with Jef and FMG. Sorry for small contact at first lap, FMG. Then (maybe lap 12) my race went totaly to putains because Alexey pushed me out on braking before chicane. Man, if you are not able to brake side by side it is a problem. We can increase the damage as much as 500% but if you don't know the basics of being for stay on track, the contacts will always happen. I always thought that I would not report any incidents but in this case I will do it. Embarrassing! Sorry for that Fabri, but to be honest , i was mistaken in weight transfer braking moment car behavier, trying to be so wide with you in track as possible for turn. But you have a same problem too, ( but less) You moved into me too , having big free space in right side. But my brake problem is bigger PS. In race time i was non sense about my moving fauls ( may be you too?) and so, not so embarrassing for that here. Otherwise i always returns a position when my faults is in fact for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD1WlaXYXyY&feature=youtu.be
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« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2018, 11:47:45 PM +0100 » |
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In race 2 I got bumped around a fair bit at the start, but from what I can see in the replay nothing unfair or questionable was behind it. Apologies to Alexi for the spin, in the race I was convinced you had tried blocking me when entering the s/f straight because you suddenly moved across, so I didn't wait as it did not appear to be my fault. I see from the replay that you had been on the slippy stuff on the outside and presumably didn't see me inside as you didn't really try to change your line, sorry but it happened so fast I couldn't do anything.
Same for me, FMG. Replays usually brings a things more clear
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« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2018, 06:28:54 AM +0100 » |
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[So sorry Bob for incedent. But before you post , please, see replay first It is not my fault ... So, don't give up and race! ] Just a little bit of patience needed on the first lap was really what I was trying to say, not trying to get in the way, could have been overtaken without problems further on the lap. Some calming down is needed at the race starts. Found myself in a position not used to and was trying to be careful on first few corners.
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« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2018, 06:49:20 AM +0100 » |
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Alexey, the replay is so clear, you caused the accident. About the Jeffrey argument, if is better have high damages % or punishments, I think is more about know how stay on track with others cars close. I don't like punishment way. Most of contacts are did for stupid things, easy to avoid if players know how stay on a track.
Alexey is moving for another step: when people do stuff on track and want have reason. This step is the more dangerous because it is hard be clear if you never understand by your mistakes and want have reason.
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« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2018, 06:50:57 AM +0100 » |
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The accident between me and Alexey is really stupid and if we are not able to battle in a easy braking side by side in straight, racing have no sense. Race 2 will be every time a Russian roulette. Alexey, how many contacts did you cause in that race? I remember also a accident against PorcoRosso at Monza with the 962, in braking too. You are recidivest.
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« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2018, 07:31:33 AM +0100 » |
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Fabri, i say again- my mistake is bigger than you in that case. And yes- it's a measurement mistake. Remembering 962 races and may be earlies is bad idea. If i will remember all others pilots faults in peletone ( not top as you) - i will kill myself better.
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« Reply #44 on: October 11, 2018, 07:38:10 AM +0100 » |
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Fabri, i say again- my mistake is bigger than you in that case. And yes- it's a measurement mistake. Remembering 962 races and may be earlies is bad idea. If i will remember all others pilots faults in peletone ( not top as you) - i will kill myself better. So for you, your mistake is bigger than mine. My mistake was stay on track when you are driving? Lol
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