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« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2021, 09:15:37 PM +0100 » |
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Seems to work fine. One thing I did notice, pitstops will be pretty much impossible, as the stolls are in the building.
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FullMetalGasket
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« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2021, 10:57:31 PM +0100 » |
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Seems to work fine. One thing I did notice, pitstops will be pretty much impossible, as the stolls are in the building.
Yeah that's still beyond me I'm afraid, but we shouldn't need a scheduled stop - stopping outside the pit and escaping in probably won't give a big penalty. I'm fine with people doing that if reversing doesn't work for them.
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IbnSolmyr
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« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2021, 07:41:22 PM +0100 » |
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I'm afraid I won't be able to race tonight guys, due to a rising migraine since this afternoon. Or, if I do, it'll be driving to populate the server more than racing. Physical activity, sounds and lights aren't for softening the pain.
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Juge
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« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2021, 09:41:49 PM +0100 » |
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What the rejoin was that? From off-track to the middle of the track on fastest bend of the track and straight in front of the leader I think I have better us for my time than be training for the races that I get crashed out everytime I am going for the win. That was my championship over by the backmarker that could not re-join the track safely. Admin note: Please refrain from using strong swear words
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« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2021, 09:49:04 PM +0100 » |
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The only thing that did not hit me tonight was the cow looking over the fence, Wiped out first corner racing incident I suppose but then had to sit in pits for two minutes. This doesn't seem fair. Felt like quitting but carried on and finished race albeit three laps down.
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IbnSolmyr
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« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2021, 10:12:43 PM +0100 » |
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What the fucking rejoin was that? From off-track to the middle of the track on fastest bend of the track and straight in front of the leader I think I have better us for my time than be training for the races that I get crashed out everytime I am going for the win. That was my championship over by the backmarker that could not re-join the track safely. I'm 1000 times sorry for you Jukka. I got badly taken out directly into the rail by Jari who lost the control of his car in the inside. My car crashed into that wall at a high speed. I then was rejoigning the track quite slowly but the car didn't want to turn left, if you watch the replay you'll see that I was really turning my wheel trying to get the car doing about what I wanted her to do, but no way. Then I even tried to lower my turning radius to find some efficiency, I was looking for that turning-left ability when I felt the crash. The worst in the story is that it was a question of a few centimeters only.. If I had been wise enough, I'd have quit the race right after my car hit the barrier, but I believed I might have a chance that she wasn't that heavily damaged unfortunately. Man, I'm truely feeling sorry and I present all my apologies to you. I get your angry of course, though I can't do anything now to save that damn sh**ty moment.
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Fabri Fibra
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« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2021, 10:30:13 PM +0100 » |
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It was just an unfortunate episode, guys. I understand the disappointment and nervousness, but ....
keep calm and carry on!
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IbnSolmyr
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« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2021, 10:53:06 PM +0100 » |
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It was just an unfortunate episode, guys. I understand the disappointment and nervousness, but ....
keep calm and carry on!
The point is that once back on the very outside of the track, I couldn't make anything to make that car staying on the safe side.. But I do understand the big disappointment/angry from Jukka, he didn't deserve such a bad luck of course.
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FullMetalGasket
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« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2021, 07:43:43 AM +0100 » |
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That was my championship over by the backmarker that could not re-join the track safely.
While I understand your frustration it's worth reminding you that we are using UKGPLs' scoring system for this series - everyone will automatically drop their 2 worst scores at the end of the season. While any bad result is unwanted, if you were to finish the rest of the season finishing only 1st and 2nd then last night wouldn't affect you in any way
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Mark J
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« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2021, 02:08:26 PM +0100 » |
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first race of the series i could attend due to other race clashes. Was running 5th until whilst 6/10ths up on my best lap, i shaved a tyre stack a little too closely in the final chicane, ripped my front wing off and gave me suspension damage that left my wheel at near 90degs. Limped the short distance to the pits but no stall for repairs so dnf'd. Cant say i enjoyed the ffb/handling of the car. Felt very un-f1 like to me. The car was yawing like a crazy thing in the turns.
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« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2021, 02:39:06 PM +0100 » |
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Similar tale to MJ here, I hit the tyre bales in last chicane but fortunately I got away with just losing my front end and no suspension damage so was able to continue. That last section was really bad in the fezza and I had to do some pretty drastic setup changes to stop my backend swaying all over the place. I even checked some old footage to see if that's how these cars behaved back in the day, they didn't Must admit I'm not looking forward to Fonteny and I'm not motivated to spend hours learning a fantasy track so will just take it as it comes. Rest of the season looks cool though so I'll stick with it.
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FullMetalGasket
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« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2021, 03:10:57 PM +0100 » |
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You need to remember these are modelled on GPL cars which had a nasty torque converter style drive train - that was always trying to throw the cars sideways on coast - drive the Kunos one if you want realism and you'll soon be complaining that they were too precise and snappy You might need to lower the rear ride height relative to the front if the rear end is constantly trying to swap, the Ferrari handles like a dream as far as I'm concerned so it should just be setup. You'll really be missing out if you skip Fonteny, it's a masterpiece in pretty much every way. In VR it's mind blowing
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« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2021, 03:42:22 PM +0100 » |
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BRM was awfull here, no brakes, no speed, no nothing. Sorry Maxime for T2, I try to escape to right and so did you , I couldn't steer properly due suspension damage...
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Juge
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« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2021, 06:14:34 PM +0100 » |
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Maxime, first thing you need to do when you are planning to rejoin track is to make sure there is no-one coming hot in close proximity. If you had done that you would know to hit brakes immediately when you noticed your car is not turning and kept it safely in side of the track. As you said you crawled so you would have easily made the car stop before going in the middle of the track. So it was not bad luck but bad and irresponsible driving.
Fabri, you are the second guy that took pretty sure win from me when you accelerated on round 1 start even when you didn´t know where others are. In real life that would be like starting the race even when you got blind at start but start anyways... pretty sure you would have lost your superlicense if you had done that in real life. So coming from you it is not really convincing to say it was just unfortunate episode. It was bad and irresponsible driving on both cases.
Tim, if I would have been able to finish the race wins would have been 3-1 (3-2 if I would had not been taken out on first round too. Pretty sure I could have won that because I could catch leaders that had almost 20s gap) between me and Lorenzo, now it is 4-0 and 5 races left so I would have to win them all to win the championship. And past 5 races I have been knock out from lead 2 times so there is no chance to win them all. My list of second places does not help me at all with this scoring system.
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FullMetalGasket
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« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2021, 07:07:26 PM +0100 » |
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Why not? If you win the next 5 then you have 5 wins and 3 seconds. Remove Lorenzo's current worst 2 and he'll be on 3 wins and 5 seconds (or worse). Lets say you win 4 more, Lorenzo has the best chance of winning any remainder of course but we could still get a surprise, probably at Fonteny as it's such a big fast dangerous course so anything may happen and anyone could win! To win the season you don't even need all wins, you just need to beat Lorenzo - and if bad luck is flying around then sooner or later it'll hit him too (in fact it already has, I won at Sandown as a backmarker span into him). These accidents have certainly put a knock in your points so far but they certainly haven't removed your chance of winning the season - technically speaking even I can still win it, providing you take a few 2nd spots away from Lorenzo and I (somehow) win everything still to come. Of course that can't happen for me because of my car choice - but then I knew that going in and just wanted to see where I could finish in the boat
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