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January 21, 2007, 09:00:39 PM +0000 - Monza (GP 2000-present) - UKGTR Season 4 Endurance Masters
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 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
CeeJay
 GTN Drivers Club
Ferrari 575 GTC (#4019) GT1 1 1:41.147
127.891mph
1 1:16:56.155
120.498mph
43 1:42.075
126.728mph
Michelin +9.0kg
JonM_uk
 Team Shark
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#980001) GT1 2 +0.650
127.074mph
2 +38.879
119.492mph
43 1:42.538
126.156mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Martin Steinmetz
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 575 GTC (#960012) GT1 5 +1.462
126.068mph
3 +1:12.815
118.627mph
43 1:43.041
125.540mph
Michelin +9.0kg
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#980001) GT1 3 +0.688
127.027mph
4 +1:20.950
118.421mph
43 1:43.020
125.565mph
Michelin +10.0kg
FlyBri
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#970012) GT1 6 +1.477
126.050mph
5 +1:40.840
117.922mph
43 1:43.296
125.230mph
Michelin +17.0kg
Radius
 RS Motorsport
Saleen S7-R (#4005) GT1 7 +2.144
125.236mph
6 +1L
115.811mph
42 1:43.524
124.954mph
Pirelli +7.0kg
Paul Richards
 28CD Motorsports
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#950012) GT1 8 +2.477
124.834mph
7 +1.083
115.784mph
42 1:45.079
123.105mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Madd-RIP
 Team RVS
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#740029) GT1 10 +2.829
124.411mph
8 +2L
114.077mph
41 1:45.048
123.141mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Jure
 Racin24-7
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#960037) GT1 9 +2.662
124.611mph
9 +1:02.960
112.553mph
41 1:45.331
122.810mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
BMW M3 GTR (#920001) NGT 17 +9.227
117.199mph
10 +3L
110.555mph
40 1:50.488
117.078mph
Michelin +72.0kg
popabawa
 Legends Racing
BMW M3 GTR (#970008) NGT 22 +9.902
116.487mph
11 +31.663
109.812mph
40 1:51.525
115.990mph
Michelin +72.0kg
LEUVEN
 Team Shark
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#960001) NGT 14 +8.923
117.523mph
12 +32.993
109.781mph
40 1:50.163
117.424mph
Michelin +50.0kg
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#4050) NGT 11 +8.606
117.862mph
13 +47.404
109.446mph
40 1:51.221
116.307mph
Michelin +50.0kg
PaulW
 Legends Racing
Porsche 996 GT2 Bi-turbo (#910008) NGT 21 +9.459
116.953mph
14 +4L
108.620mph
39 1:52.177
115.316mph
Dunlop +50.0kg
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#990008) NGT 24 +11.331
115.007mph
15 +2.777
108.556mph
39 1:52.032
115.465mph
Pirelli +50.0kg
Nevski
 
Ferrari 360 GTC (#4065) NGT 23 +9.902
116.487mph
16 +4.279
108.520mph
39 1:52.060
115.436mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
Enzo
 Racin24-7
Ferrari 360 GTC (#880037) NGT 12 +8.848
117.603mph
17 (+2) +27L 16 1:51.189
116.340mph
unknown
Pirelli +30.0kg
james
 Racin24-7
Ferrari 575 GTC (#980037) GT1 4 +1.251
126.328mph
Excluded +2L 41 1:43.316
125.206mph
fuel
Michelin +9.0kg
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#4088) NGT 13 +8.904
117.543mph
Excluded +3L
110.065mph
40 1:50.759
116.792mph
Dunlop +50.0kg
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed
BMW M3 GTR (#4143) NGT 16 +8.964
117.479mph
Excluded -0.170
110.069mph
40 1:50.259
117.321mph
Michelin +72.0kg
Bernie Lomax
 
Ferrari 360 GTC (#4062) NGT 19 +9.302
117.120mph
Excluded +16.156
109.688mph
40 1:51.661
115.848mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
Truetom
 Legends Racing
BMW M3 GTR (#970008) NGT 20 +9.336
117.084mph
Excluded +2.810
109.999mph
40 1:51.057
116.478mph
Michelin +72.0kg
purdie
 Racin24-7
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#890037) NGT 18 +9.297
117.125mph
Excluded +4L
108.651mph
39 1:51.351
116.171mph
Michelin +50.0kg
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#710029) NGT 15 +8.924
117.522mph
Excluded +6L
103.267mph
37 1:51.633
115.877mph
Michelin +50.0kg

Moderator's Report

There was some corner cutting in this race. I would like to point out GTR2 is not sensitive at detecting corner cutting, but UKGTR cutting rules applied to this race, so they should be followed. Therefore I unfortunately will have to exclude some drivers and penalise others.

These 'incidents' represent the single hardest set of decisions we as moderators have ever had to make. As chief moderator I am personally very disappointed that so many drivers chose to ignore the cutting rules, which were only introduced as the result of requests from existing drivers.

  • Bernie Lomax — regular, blatant cutting of corners, eg. 727, 1219, 2539, 2965, 3526 — excluded
  • Dan Minton — regular, blatant cutting of corners, eg. 500, 502, 700, 726, 727, 840 — excluded
  • Enzo (enzo)caution — occaisional accidental corner cutting, eg. 358, 426, 1282, 1505 — 10.000 seconds added
  • james ([R24-7]james) — regular, blatant cutting of corners, eg. 814, 917, 1021, 1061 — excluded
  • LEUVENwarning — repeated cutting of corners, eg. 622, 1183, 1410, 1521, 1634, 1750 — 30.000 seconds added
  • mo — regular, blatant cutting of corners, eg. 833, 1282, 3180, 3960, 4292 — excluded
  • pribeiro (PRibeiro) — regular, blatant cutting of corners, eg. 387, 429, 588, 614 — excluded
  • purdie ([R24-7]perdy450) — regular, blatant cutting of corners, eg. 841, 1155, 1403, 1605, 1629, 1744 — excluded
  • Simon Gymercaution — occaisional accidental corner cutting, eg. 2525, 3201, 4051, 3424, 3465 — 10.000 seconds added
  • Truetom — regular, blatant cutting of corners, eg. 1290, 1332, 1445, 1490, 1627, 1826 — excluded


Server replay time: 1030s

PRibeiro is trying to go around Enzo into the first part of the Rettifilo. Enzo cuts the first part trying to defend but is unsuccessful and PR has the place as they brake for della Roggia.

PR then cuts the second part of the chicane.

I'm writing these up as cautions because any gain made would have offset against the other driver's cut.

  • Enzo (enzo)caution — accidental corner cut
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded
  • pribeiro (PRibeiro)caution — accidental corner cut
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 1061s

James cuts through the grass at the lefthander out of Variante Ascari. By doing this he can carry more speed out of the corner making a pass on Paul Richards fairly easily. James didn't give the position back.

Normally this would have been worth a 2 place penalty. It will be reduced to a caution because of his exclusion.


Server replay time: 1929s

Paul968 is following Enzo through Ascari, and takes advantage of the latter's mistake on the exit to get alongside into Parabolica.

They travel down the main straight side by side, Paul getting about 65% ahead and on the left by the time they reach the turn in point for the Rettifilo. Enzo cuts the first part of the chicane, with both left side tyres on the green concrete, which allows him to get back fully alongside Paul. who is thus compromised on the exit.

Enzo then wins the drag race to the della Roggia and regains the place.

  • Enzo (enzo)penalty — gaining advantage through corner cutting — 2 places lost


Server replay time: 2136s

Leuven gets a decent exit out of Ascari and draws almost level with PaulW, but as they continue towards Parabolica, PaulW's superior top speed moves him just clear of Leuven's nose.

At the 200 metre board, Paul, who is in the middle of the road with Leuven on the right, moves fairly sharply back to the left, right in front of Leuven, who has to duck quickly right to avoid running into the back of him under braking - there are less than two seconds between Paul's move and the braking point.

Having forced him to swerve back over the right, Paul then tries to squeeze Leuven, who is about half way alongside at the turn in point, out of a move, and instead finds himself knocked sideways and off the track.

Essentially it's a racing incident, but moving over right in front of another driver just moments before a braking zone is not a smart idea. If you don't think you can make the corner from an inside line, you have to brake earlier. Sometimes that means giving up the corner.

  • PaulWadvice — don't move over in front of something right before a braking zone

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« on: January 16, 2007, 10:50:52 AM +0000 »

250km of Monza

Practice 1:20:00(15 mins)full time drivers only
Practice 2:20:15(15 mins)reserves may join too
Qual 2:20:30(25 mins)
Race:20:55(43 laps)note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT, G2 or NGT from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.2 (see this thread) (G2 cars will not score points).
Weather: to be decided just before the race based on real-world weather according to the Endurance rules.
Track: Monza GP 2004
Race Start Time 14:00
Pit Stops: All drivers must make a minimum of one pit stop. This must involve entering the pit lane at the speed limit, and coming to a complete standstill in the designated pit box. Tyres do not have to be changed and no fuel has to be added. You cannot take your mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Endurance Masters
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(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page.
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack (see link above).
(4) Drivers should remember that they get only two free changes of car in each series.
(5) The race will be based on distance, not time, to avoid a premature end. In the event of a wet (not changeable) race, the distance will be shortened to 40 laps.
(6) No decision has yet been made on the entry of Academy drivers in G2 cars.
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2007, 12:33:48 PM +0000 »

Can you say "F550"  Wink

I know Dave will kick me...slap me around and kick me again, but can we remove the 550 for this event?
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2007, 01:04:07 PM +0000 »

I know Dave will kick me...slap me around and kick me again, but can we remove the 550 for this event?

No, but we can agree to official pronounce anyone who uses it and hasn't stuck with it for the rest of the season to be a big girl's blouse. Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2007, 01:33:53 PM +0000 »


No, but we can agree to official pronounce anyone who uses it and hasn't stuck with it for the rest of the season to be a big girl's blouse. Cheesy

Thank God for that part, as I have the F550 in the sprints Grin. Will stick with the Lambo for the Enduro, it's very slow and just makes it fuelwise, but it's home....euh....never mind. Grin
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2007, 01:39:46 PM +0000 »

No, but we can agree to official pronounce anyone who uses it and hasn't stuck with it for the rest of the season to be a big girl's blouse. Cheesy

lol

I'll be in the Saleen then. Should be interesting.
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2007, 08:25:43 PM +0000 »

Right, the Vertigo has had petrol doused over it, had a match thrown it's way and is currently merrily burning away outside Legends HQ as we speak. We'll phone the insurance tomorrow, Jonzo wants to toast some marshmallows on it first Cheesy

Stubbornness made me stick with it for a couple of races longer than I should have but two blown engines in a row is just no fun at all and therefore defeats the purpose of tuning up really!

Hopefully I won't be as far off the pace this week Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2007, 10:50:15 PM +0000 »

Hopefully I won't be as far off the pace this week Smiley

Not sure the F550 is allowed in NGT Pops.  Wink Wink Tongue angel
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2007, 08:49:46 AM +0000 »

Not sure the F550 is allowed in NGT Pops.  Wink Wink Tongue angel

Now now... steady on old bean. I'll have to resort to shaking my fist angrily at you when you lap me if you carry on like that!
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2007, 09:53:17 AM +0000 »

You can accidentaly touch him with your right foot, errr, front side of your car.  Grin

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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2007, 10:05:26 AM +0000 »

Ill have to resort to shaking my fist angrily at you when you lap me if you carry on like that!

Just like in real life (people shaking their fists at BMW drivers)  Smiley angel
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2007, 10:52:29 PM +0000 »

Not sure the F550 is allowed in NGT Pops.  Wink Wink Tongue angel

Now now... steady on old bean. I'll have to resort to shaking my fist angrily at you when you lap me if you carry on like that!
Haha, got a great mental image now, Dastardely + Muttley style!

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Someone should make a Wacky Races mod for GTR Smiley

They did. Try racing on some of the public servers in the lobby and you'll see what I mean.
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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2007, 01:46:25 PM +0000 »

right. is there a veteran out there with a good lambo setup for monza? tarzan dazed and confused, please help  angel
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2007, 02:38:24 PM +0000 »

Can we not limit the 550's performance as will leave other cars for dead?

Also, who all plans to jump ship to the 550 for this race out of interest?
If a few do it surely we all should to be as equal as possible although i would like to stick to lambo now i have chosen that as my car of choice.

Not sure what times can be achieved with the lambo but tested for a few laps last night and managed a 1.43.0. Think I could knock a few more tenths if i manage to nail the second chicane which I still cant master bouncing over the kerbs like other cars. Still no 550 beater.
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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2007, 02:40:46 PM +0000 »

Watch and see how many 550's engines blow, either that or the rev's will need to be turned way down.
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