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January 30, 2007, 09:00:55 PM +0000 - Monza (GP 2000-present) - UKGTR Season 4 Sprint GT
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#950001) GT1 1 1:40.757
128.386mph
1 39:13.912
120.899mph
22 1:41.755
127.126mph
Michelin +17.0kg
CeeJay
 GTN Drivers Club
Ferrari 575 GTC (#4019) GT1 2 +0.209
128.120mph
2 +0.373
120.880mph
22 1:41.533
127.404mph
Michelin +9.0kg
baracus250gt
 Racin24-7
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#990037) GT1 4 +1.306
126.743mph
3 +19.060
119.928mph
22 1:42.303
126.445mph
Michelin +17.0kg
Joss
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#3036) GT1 3 +0.593
127.634mph
4 +19.776
119.892mph
22 1:42.656
126.011mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark Junior
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#950003) GT1 5 +1.408
126.616mph
5 +36.498
119.053mph
22 1:42.776
125.864mph
Michelin +17.0kg
FlyBri
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#970012) GT1 7 +1.483
126.523mph
6 +42.872
118.737mph
22 1:43.389
125.117mph
Michelin +17.0kg
stnasky
 
Dodge Viper GTS-R (#4032) GT1 9 +1.756
126.186mph
7 +44.098
118.676mph
22 1:43.382
125.126mph
Pirelli -15.0kg
LEUVEN
 Team Shark
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#980001) GT1 6 +1.436
126.582mph
8 +46.420
118.561mph
22 1:42.807
125.826mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Radius
 RS Motorsport
Saleen S7-R (#4005) GT1 8 +1.746
126.199mph
9 +51.924
118.290mph
22 1:43.475
125.013mph
Pirelli +7.0kg
james
 Racin24-7
Ferrari 575 GTC (#980037) GT1 17 +2.358
125.450mph
10 +1:00.083
117.890mph
22 1:43.275
125.255mph
Michelin +9.0kg
Pedro[PL]
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#970012) GT1 15 +2.147
125.707mph
11 +1:09.312
117.441mph
22 1:43.927
124.470mph
Michelin +17.0kg
Carl Hart
 Racin24-7
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#960037) GT1 14 +2.138
125.718mph
12 +1:16.912
117.074mph
22 1:44.334
123.984mph
Michelin +10.0kg
jan duijs
 
Saleen S7-R (#4004) GT1 18 +2.566
125.197mph
13 +1:25.805
116.647mph
22 1:44.765
123.474mph
Pirelli +7.0kg
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#870008) GT1 16 +2.297
125.524mph
14 +1:26.317
116.623mph
22 1:43.755
124.676mph
Michelin +17.0kg
Jure
 Racin24-7
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#960037) GT1 19 +3.554
124.011mph
15 +1L
115.036mph
21 1:45.559
122.545mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Paul Richards
 28CD Motorsports
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#950012) GT1 13 +2.035
125.844mph
16 +8.899
114.604mph
21 1:44.304
124.020mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Jimmie
 Racin24-7
Ferrari 575 GTC (#980037) GT1 12 +1.906
126.002mph
17 +40.693
113.087mph
21 1:44.389
123.919mph
Michelin +9.0kg
linco24
 
Dodge Viper GTS-R (#4032) GT1 22 +5.179
122.109mph
18 +2L
108.679mph
20 1:46.233
121.768mph
Pirelli -15.0kg
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing
Saleen S7-R (#990014) GT1 20 +3.991
123.494mph
19 +32.185
107.230mph
20 1:45.575
122.527mph
Pirelli +7.0kg
BigG
 RS Motorsport
Lister Storm (#4014) GT1 21 +5.073
122.231mph
20 +12L 10 1:45.665
122.422mph
unknown
Dunlop -10.0kg
Jamera
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#970012) GT1 21 +14L 8 1:47.802
119.995mph
unknown
Michelin +17.0kg
purdie
 Racin24-7
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#960037) GT1 10 +1.757
126.185mph
22 8 1:44.234
124.103mph
suspension
Michelin +10.0kg
Enzo
 Racin24-7
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#990037) GT1 11 +1.842
126.081mph
+22L 0 ---
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unknown
Michelin +17.0kg
SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
GT1
1:41.533
127.404mph
CeeJay
Race
Ferrari 575 GTC
+9.0kg
January 30, 2007, 09:00:55 PM +0000
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« on: January 20, 2007, 09:37:48 PM +0000 »

Practice 1:20:15(10 mins)full time drivers only
Practice 2:20:25(10 mins)reserves may join too
Qual 2:20:35(20 mins)
Race:21:00(22 laps; approximately 40 minutes)note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT or G2 from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.2 (see this thread) (G2 cars will not score points).
Weather: Dry
Track: Monza GP 2004
Race Start Time 14:00

Server: UKGTR GT Sprint
Password: here

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page.
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack (see link above).
(4) Drivers may only change cars twice in the season without penalty.
(5) The race will be based on distance, not time, to avoid a premature end.
(6) For this race only, the Use Of Track Surface rules are relaxed so that GTR2 will be the sole arbiter of whether a corner has been cut.
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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2007, 07:58:03 AM +0000 »

Important!

In the light of the large amount of corner cutting which has happened in the Endurance Masters and NGT Sprint races, for this race only, the Use Of Track Surface rules are relaxed so that GTR2 will be the sole arbiter of whether a corner has been cut.

That means that drivers have more leeway than normal to use the green painted areas as well as the curbs.

The rules about giving back a place taken (or successfully defended) as the direct result of a cut (as determined by the game, for this event) remain in effect.

In addition, a driver who causes an incident after losing control because of heavy use of curbs or green tarmac areas may be held accountable for that incident in circumstances which would normally be classed as a racing incident.
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2007, 03:47:58 PM +0000 »

So is legal?
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2007, 04:05:25 PM +0000 »

If you cut too much at those corners you'll hit those yellow/black 'bumps', then you'll loose time anyway, is what I'm always thinking Huh
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2007, 04:14:10 PM +0000 »

Not sure I'm too pleased about this idea...I can understand that it's difficult to police this sort of thing, and I admit myself to taking too much kerb at the second chicane at times....but I've seen some atrocious cutting in online races, especially at ascari and the first chicane. I'm sure most people will drive fairly cleanly anyway, but it opens up the possibility for a couple of drivers to win purely because they cut better than others.
Locotus was penalised at Donington for cutting, now is everyone going to be rewarded for doing it?

If you cut too much at those corners you'll hit those yellow/black 'bumps', then you'll loose time anyway, is what I'm always thinking Huh
They don't slow me down very much. Suspension settings maybe?
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2007, 05:00:07 PM +0000 »

Locotus was penalised at Donington for cutting, now is everyone going to be rewarded for doing it?

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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2007, 06:50:11 PM +0000 »

So is legal?

For this race (GT Sprint and Endurance Academy) only. We will discuss what to do at Hockenheim later.

A cut like the one in the screen shot is clearly and unambiguously illegal under the existing SRou rules and has been since we tightened them up as the result of a GTL race at Imola last year.
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2007, 07:00:58 PM +0000 »

I don't like this Sad GTR2 is very relaxed with regards to corner cutting on this track. And I suck at cutting corners, always end up facing the opposite direction  Smiley
So now I'm at a disadvantage just because I can't cut corners  Undecided  As if I'm not slow enough as is  Tongue

Please reconsider this. Especially after the incident with locutus at Donington
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2007, 07:02:48 PM +0000 »

So is legal?

For this race (GT Sprint and Endurance Academy) only. We will discuss what to do at Hockenheim later.

A cut like the one in the screen shot is clearly and unambiguously illegal under the existing SRou rules and has been since we tightened them up as the result of a GTL race at Imola last year.

But,in your original post it said it was all up to GTR2 Huh   Huh

That cut right there won't give you a warning by GTR2 (unfortunately ) .

I don't get this new rule. I suggest sticking with the original rules and don't make any special exceptions at all
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2007, 07:40:13 PM +0000 »

I think Dave means that by the current rules on the website it would be illegal, but for this race only the rule will be relaxed.
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2007, 09:24:53 PM +0000 »

I don't get this new rule. I suggest sticking with the original rules and don't make any special exceptions at all

Unfortunately a whole load of drivers have been unwilling or unable to abide by the existing rules, and this has generated an enourmous volume of incidents which the moderators need to review. Rather than allow the situation to continue I made an executive decision to use GTR2's cut detection for the final two Monza races to avoid increasing this workload further.

Whilst there are places at Monza where you can gain time from this, you can't gain as much as you'd think, and if you're hopping the curbs (and especially the yellow and black blocks) regularly, sooner or later you are going to get a warning from the game... and/or plant the cars firmly into the barriers or the gravel (or both).

I didn't take this decision lightly and frankly I'm very disappointed that so many members have chosen to completely ignore the cutting rules, especially as some of those self same members were the ones lobbying for the rules to be brought in in the first place.
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2007, 10:40:04 PM +0000 »

I understand it must increase the administrative load when Monza is raced....is there no other option?  Embarrassed Just seems like joining the bad guys instead of showing them the right way etc

If there really is no other option, I guess we better all start practising kerb hopping for Sunday/Tuesday....
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2007, 11:09:51 PM +0000 »

I understand it must increase the administrative load when Monza is raced....is there no other option?  Embarrassed Just seems like joining the bad guys instead of showing them the right way etc

If there really is no other option, I guess we better all start practising kerb hopping for Sunday/Tuesday....

Exactly,I agree 110% with this.

And I honestly can't see the problem. If people break the rules they need to get a penalty. So,there might be more workload on the admins on Monza for instance,but fortunately not all tracks are like this.

I gave up racing in our Danish GTR2 league recently after finding out just how much people were corner cutting on Imola. I'm not going to race online on that track again ever.  Embarrassed

I'm not going to start kerb hopping just because of this. I'm going to drive like I always do and I'll have to accept the decision.

But I strongly advise against it. I'd prefer sticking to the rules
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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2007, 11:28:59 PM +0000 »

With all due respect, do you have any idea how much work is involved in checking every driver for cutting? 26 drivers for 80 minutes each - you do the maths and then say whether you think it reasonable for us to check!
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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2007, 11:36:53 PM +0000 »

Definately not. It sounds like a mammouth amount of work and I can see the reasoning behind it (as I said before).
I'm just trying to think of any other ways around it that wouldn't lead to huge work loads or corner cutting. Not having much luck....seems that this is the best solution.

Regardless, racing has been very good as late, so gd luck all on Sunday/Tuesday  Smiley
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