FullMetalGasket
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« on: November 19, 2022, 09:25:28 AM +0000 » |
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Round 3 of the Group C Fun Trophy For this round we are off to not-so-sunny Scotland and Kunos' Highlands circuit. It's big, it's fast, and it's sort of on public roads. But it's also really quite fun in these. Rules are very simple - you must use each car only once. Up to you where you run it, but you can only do so once! As per the last time it would be very helpful if people let me know a day or 2 before the event what they intend to run so I can ensure the server has enough of the relevant cars. We will have a x2 fuel and tire multiplier for this series, so we can at least pretend we're having proper endurance events. Password: see aboveTimings:Practice: 19:30 (45 mins) Qualifying: 20:15 (15 mins) Race: 20:30 (50 minutes +1 lap) Cars allowed: Mazda 787B, Sauber/Mercedes C9, Porsche 962 Short tail, Porsche 962 Long tail (All Kunos stock - some DLC required) Track:Highlands (Kunos Stock) Live Timing: stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstatTime of Day Setting: 15:00 Weather: Mid Clear Start: StandingTyre wear: x2Fuel consumption: x2Pit-stops : no mandatory stopsServer track settings: SESSION_START=98 RANDOMNESS=2 LAP_GAIN=0.007% SESSION_TRANSFER=80 Damage: 70% Cars used so far:
Max: C9, 787B FMG: 962 LH, 962KH Fabri: 962 KH, 787B Spanner: 962 KH, 962LH Mark J: 787B, 962KH Syd : 787B, C9 Goldtop: C9, 962KH Stefan: 787B, 962KH Maxime: C9, 962KH
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spanner
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2022, 10:14:45 AM +0000 » |
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Ah ok.... not this then... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highlands_Motorsport_Park. Was trying to search to see what it could be
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FullMetalGasket
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2022, 11:35:13 AM +0000 » |
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Sadly no - I didn't know about that circuit, will have to see if anyone has made it! I remember a load of NZ tracks being made several years ago....
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2022, 09:31:10 PM +0000 » |
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Hmm so am i really going ot be over 10sec off the pace?? MAybe i should consider the Merc as well!
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2022, 08:10:32 PM +0000 » |
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Long tail for me.
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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2022, 09:16:27 PM +0000 » |
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If I can join, it will be in Mazda until pitstop please, then it will be on foot.
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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2022, 10:37:38 PM +0000 » |
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Maxime - the pit strategys' have never got lost or confused in all the years I've had the game unless I forget to save my alterations (Normally when I'm talking to people in chat). Just take your race setup out for a few laps to get your tire pressures and to let the game calculate fuel burn (easy tip - always set your pitstop pressures in the menu to what the tires you take out are running, that way you can work out your pressures after a lap or 2 and put them into your pitstop screen - when you escape back to pits it'll still show your edited pressures providing you don't load anything saving you from guessing ) Calculate your fuel (the normal fuel screen will be ok for this in stock cars + tracks) and set the pressures you want and then smash the hell out of the save button for your setup It WILL remember whatever you tell it too - but it's easy to save a setup and then do or alter your pit strategy while forgetting to save again after. A bit like how I often forget to top my fuel back up after qualifying when I get distracted
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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2022, 08:21:11 AM +0000 » |
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Porsche long tail for me please.
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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2022, 01:27:25 PM +0000 » |
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tbh I've never felt the fuel usage vary; What stracker tells me the laps of fuel i have and it doesn't really vary from leaving the pits to finishing!
Which is why i default to assuming it was two full tanks to get through the race, not accounting for how different this track is! I'd even decided to run higher boost! Was only last night I suddenly realised this is going to be an efficiency run as driving normally wasn't going to get to the end.
I'm not sure people realise this having seen the laptimes posted on the server!
Mercedes for me.. better suited than the mazda for this
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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2022, 02:13:21 PM +0000 » |
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Maxime - the pit strategys' have never got lost or confused in all the years I've had the game unless I forget to save my alterations (Normally when I'm talking to people in chat). Just take your race setup out for a few laps to get your tire pressures and to let the game calculate fuel burn (easy tip - always set your pitstop pressures in the menu to what the tires you take out are running, that way you can work out your pressures after a lap or 2 and put them into your pitstop screen - when you escape back to pits it'll still show your edited pressures providing you don't load anything saving you from guessing ) Calculate your fuel (the normal fuel screen will be ok for this in stock cars + tracks) and set the pressures you want and then smash the hell out of the save button for your setup It WILL remember whatever you tell it too - but it's easy to save a setup and then do or alter your pit strategy while forgetting to save again after. A bit like how I often forget to top my fuel back up after qualifying when I get distracted I'm aware that softwares don't have their time of the month, that's why I said "It's pretty much like if I was an aero technician who checks his well done work 3x but 3rd one is doing something critically wrong... and the plane crashes". My point was that the UI is far from being user friendly. I'm used to name my setup files like this : L(etter)_N(umber) with Letters being T for test (wip), B for Basic (safe bet), Q for qualif, R for race and with Numbers being the matching generation idea of the setup. So that when you keep loading some files to update and save them, then load another one to compare, etc.. it's pretty easy to make the deadly mistake eventually.. The alternative would be to just fiddle with an actual unique setup file, but that way I miss extensive and adaptive potential, not keeping track of the changes and also needing to spend some time to update at last minute while racing countdown is ongoing.. which sometimes is pretty stressful. (Happened to me several times to manage to click on the 'drive' button while starting lights were there yet !) So yes for me it's pretty complicated to handle, at least not fire&forget.. Then maybe I'm rather brain damaged yet.
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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2022, 03:25:39 PM +0000 » |
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ha, our ages are showing i only realised after the last race at Grobnik that i had completely forgot to adjust the turbo during all of the sessions so ran the whole lot at default (which i think is 70 or 80%) I was wondering how the hell Tim had used 210?L of fuel v my 180L useage. What a plonker. ..and still finished 2nd Re Pitstops, i dont know how to adjust the pitstop options on the fly in AC but i always tend to practise using my planned race setup so i try and remember to set my pitstop settings for fuel and tyre pressures in that and save it before the race starts. I vaguely remember there is a hotkey or pop out for the pits but forgot how a long time ago after using iR for last couple of years for most of my racing. 962Long tail for me ta.
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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2022, 04:00:16 PM +0000 » |
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You all keep talking about "boost". What is that and where can I increase it? I've only been changing tire pressures in the first two races, seems I was missing out on some power compare to the rest of you.
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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2022, 05:24:56 PM +0000 » |
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ha, our ages are showing i only realised after the last race at Grobnik that i had completely forgot to adjust the turbo during all of the sessions so ran the whole lot at default (which i think is 70 or 80%) I was wondering how the hell Tim had used 210?L of fuel v my 180L useage. What a plonker. ..and still finished 2nd Re Pitstops, i dont know how to adjust the pitstop options on the fly in AC but i always tend to practise using my planned race setup so i try and remember to set my pitstop settings for fuel and tyre pressures in that and save it before the race starts. I vaguely remember there is a hotkey or pop out for the pits but forgot how a long time ago after using iR for last couple of years for most of my racing. 962Long tail for me ta. Actually as you were in the 962, boost setup wasn't a thing : it's as it is. You all keep talking about "boost". What is that and where can I increase it? I've only been changing tire pressures in the first two races, seems I was missing out on some power compare to the rest of you. You can map some buttons in the game settings so that when a boost engined car allows for it you can adjust the boost pressure on the fly, mostly to lower it as generally for pit exit, manoeuvers, low grip, etc.. or put it to max possible for a FL at the price of an engine failure start and more risky driving. The Mercedes engine here can litterally be killed in 1 lap but deliver a substantial perf increase.
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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2022, 05:37:54 PM +0000 » |
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ha, our ages are showing i only realised after the last race at Grobnik that i had completely forgot to adjust the turbo during all of the sessions so ran the whole lot at default (which i think is 70 or 80%) I was wondering how the hell Tim had used 210?L of fuel v my 180L useage. What a plonker. ..and still finished 2nd Re Pitstops, i dont know how to adjust the pitstop options on the fly in AC but i always tend to practise using my planned race setup so i try and remember to set my pitstop settings for fuel and tyre pressures in that and save it before the race starts. I vaguely remember there is a hotkey or pop out for the pits but forgot how a long time ago after using iR for last couple of years for most of my racing. 962Long tail for me ta. Actually as you were in the 962, boost setup wasn't a thing : it's as it is. Actually it's only the short tail that has fixed boost - the long tail has adjustable that defaults to 80% (I think). Any higher and it goes like the clappers but will eventually explode The Mazda obviously doesn't have a boost option.. Due to driving the race in fuel saving mode I actually only used 190-195Ltrs at Grobnik - the 210 number is what I would need if I ran the entire thing at my normal pace. Had I remembered to lengthen my gears I could have saved some more while potentially going as quick or slightly quicker all race I've mentioned it a squillion times before - but you all need the ACRL fuel app if you want to see what's really going on fuel-wise....
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