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September 16, 2007, 09:02:55 PM +0100 - Monza (GP 2000-present) - UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Lister Storm (#860001) GT1 1 1:41.483
127.467mph
1 1:20:51.965
119.974mph
45 1:42.446
126.269mph
Michelin -25.0kg
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Dodge Viper GTS-R (#850001) GT1 2 +0.591
126.729mph
2 +29.832
119.241mph
45 1:43.226
125.315mph
Pirelli -25.0kg
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#820008) GT1 6 +1.052
126.159mph
3 +1:04.873
118.391mph
45 1:43.607
124.854mph
Michelin -8.0kg
Paul Richards
 Kerb Crawlers
Saleen S7-R (#970013) GT1 5 +0.949
126.286mph
4 +1:13.934
118.173mph
45 1:43.715
124.724mph
Pirelli +15.0kg
Joss
 Team Shark
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#980001) GT1 28 5 +1:17.418
118.090mph
45 1:43.259
125.275mph
Michelin +12.0kg
Reign Man
 Team Pseudo Racing
Maserati MC12 (#800052) GT1 10 +2.195
124.769mph
6 +1L
117.003mph
44 1:44.433
123.867mph
Pirelli -40.0kg
Jure
 Racin24-7
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#960037) GT1 8 +1.840
125.197mph
7 +16.197
116.615mph
44 1:44.731
123.514mph
Michelin -8.0kg
CeeJay
 GTN Drivers Club
Lister Storm (#4014) GT1 3 +0.689
126.608mph
8 +20.259
116.518mph
44 1:43.087
125.484mph
Michelin +10.0kg
EdamSpeed
 Kerb Crawlers
Saleen S7-R (#970013) GT1 11 +2.817
124.024mph
9 +2L
114.049mph
43 1:44.908
123.306mph
Pirelli +5.0kg
BACKO
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#490052) GT1 9 +1.932
125.086mph
10 +3L 42 1:43.959
124.431mph
fuel
Pirelli +5.0kg
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Morgan Aero 8 (#960013) GTC 18 +9.995
116.039mph
11 +4L
108.806mph
41 1:53.417
114.055mph
Michelin +30.0kg
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 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#930013) GTC 14 +9.251
116.818mph
12 +9.852
108.586mph
41 1:52.051
115.445mph
Michelin +20.0kg
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Nissan 350Z (#990001) GTC 25 +11.555
114.437mph
13 +23.951
108.274mph
41 1:53.534
113.937mph
Michelin -12.0kg
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Nissan 350Z (#4085) GTC 23 +11.189
114.809mph
14 +32.711
108.081mph
41 1:53.590
113.881mph
Michelin -22.0kg
picnic
 Team Shark
Morgan Aero 8 (#900001) GTC 24 +11.405
114.589mph
15 +35.522
108.019mph
41 1:53.198
114.275mph
Michelin +5.0kg
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#4059) GTC 21 +10.313
115.709mph
16 +1:23.064
106.983mph
41 1:52.724
114.756mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Mosler MT900R (#520029) GTC 22 +10.394
115.625mph
17 +5L
106.592mph
40 1:52.646
114.835mph
Dunlop -5.0kg
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 360 Modena (#890052) GTC 27 +11.911
114.078mph
18 +1:21.305
104.836mph
40 1:53.583
113.888mph
Pirelli +5.0kg
John
 Team Pseudo Racing
Morgan Aero 8 (#3107) GTC 20 +10.282
115.741mph
19 +7L 38 1:51.575
115.938mph
DQ
Michelin -15.0kg
pribeiro
 Sonic Racing Team
Ferrari 360 Modena (#4064) GTC 16 +9.759
116.285mph
20 +9L 36 1:52.406
115.081mph
engine
Pirelli +5.0kg
Madd-RIP
 Team RVS
Mosler MT900R (#520029) GTC 15 +9.459
116.599mph
21 +18L 27 1:52.430
115.056mph
engine
Dunlop -5.0kg
Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers"
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#930013) GTC 26 +11.838
114.151mph
22 +19L 26 1:54.576
112.901mph
unknown
Michelin +10.0kg
Zacari
 Team Shark Junior
Lister Storm (#860003) GT1 4 +0.884
126.366mph
23 +23L 22 1:43.138
125.422mph
engine
Michelin +0.0kg
Adam Parle
 Legends Racing
Morgan Aero 8 (#860008) GTC 17 +9.901
116.137mph
24 +27L 18 1:53.334
114.138mph
suspension
Michelin -15.0kg
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Maserati MC12 (#870013) GT1 7 +1.636
125.445mph
25 +31L 14 1:43.770
124.658mph
unknown
Pirelli -40.0kg
Pedro Silva
 Sonic Racing Team
Ferrari 575 GTC (#4011) GT1 12 +3.734
122.944mph
26 +32L 13 1:50.875
116.670mph
suspension
Pirelli +10.0kg
Darren Seal
 Legends Racing
Morgan Aero 8 (#860008) GTC 19 +10.129
115.899mph
27 13 1:52.495
114.990mph
suspension
Michelin -15.0kg
Gazza49er
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#490052) GT1 13 +4.120
122.494mph
28 +38L 7 1:47.120
120.759mph
accident
Pirelli +5.0kg

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Server replay time: 1804s

Mo's MC12 is catching Backo's 550 as they head out of Ascari and towards the Parabolica. Backo moves to the right to defend the corner, but then moves left again as they reach the braking zone. Everything looks normal under braking until right at the end of the braking zone, where Mo locks a wheel as he starts to turn in and runs into the back of Backo, spinning both cars. EdamSpeed runs into Backo, unable to avoid him, Darren also getting caught up.

Mo retires immediately; Backo pits for repairs.

Mo's braking point appears to be very slightly later than the lap before, but this is not a classic rear ender. Instead, it appears that having been unsighted going into the corner, he brakes to the point of lockup, and then releases the brakes to try and free the locked wheel and make the corner just at the moment when he's right behind Backo, who is still braking, and probably slightly slower than normal because of the relatively late move back to the left.

Normally this would be a two place penalty, but in light of Backo's fairly late move back over to the left, the fact that the contact occurred at the point where a driver would normally be transitioning from braking to balanced throttle, we're issuing cautions to both drivers.

  • BACKOcaution — don't move across in front of another car in a braking zone
  • mocaution — rear ending Backo

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« Reply #45 on: September 16, 2007, 10:42:21 PM +0100 »

had my late race ruined by a stop and go for one ferkin cut corner - how is that right? I was in a good battle with John and Picnic on track and that totally buggered my last third of race  Angry, no previous warnings as i hadnt cut any corners all race until that one occasion whilst in fierce battle with Johns morgan, then it just said 'severe warning, stop and go'  cursing

Really sorry to pops and darren early on when i had big spins at T1 Embarrassed    i got such a ridiculous toe off of Adams morgan that the bloody car just wouldnt stop when i hit the brakes, despite frantic pumping of the pedal Shocked
it happened again a few laps later, after drafting picnics morgan...i saw pops turning in up ahead and literally threw my car off the track to avoid him, but still span across his bows... without contact thankfully  Tongue

I dont get on with this track even though i enjoy racing on it. There always seems to be an incident or two that ruins my race overall.
Think i finished 16th overall, no idea where in class, but it wasnt great despite seeming to be faster on track than many of the GTC cars that finished ahead of me Sad

Congrats to the podium boys  Cool

ps..what happened to the success ballast? I was still showing as +30kg in the timing screen  Huh
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« Reply #46 on: September 16, 2007, 10:49:34 PM +0100 »

Bad break PR, think you had it wrapped up. You prolly didn't need to refuel so would have jumped me in pits.

Still, I can be dafter than you. I think I chucked it away with a pit lane speeding s/g. Had a 11 second lead when I came to pit so, with plenty of time to spare, decided to hit limiter well before lane but just forgot all about braking and was tootling happily through pits at 70mph till I realised Roll Eyes. Absolute Moron. Couldn't really drive much better and enjoyed that a lot, especially little cameo with Daves nissan.

GT1 boys were far better this time, despite the fact I was a right numpty a couple of times. Sorry Edam and PaulR.

Congrats to Ruskus and Paul on fine wins Smiley.  
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« Reply #47 on: September 16, 2007, 10:50:41 PM +0100 »

ps..what happened to the success ballast? I was still showing as +30kg in the timing screen  Huh

The +30kg is just the car ballast, driver ballast is shown on the sector screen not the timing screen.
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« Reply #48 on: September 16, 2007, 10:55:16 PM +0100 »

Well, I guess 4th is OK for the first trip out in a new car but I didn't drive very well and managed to ferk up my pit-stop, re-fuelling when I didn't need to. I had "number of pit-stops" set to zero so I guess it defaults to filling the tank to the brim  Hit with a wet fish I was being so careful to change the tyres correctly (bit of a a novelty after a season in the Vertigo) that I didn't notice the fuel. Idiot. I think I would have pipped Dave for the final podium place Undecided

Great driving by the GT1's, apologies to Jeff for our little misunderstanding, I was sticking to the racing line but you'd already committed, I should have noticed Embarrassed
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« Reply #49 on: September 16, 2007, 11:00:31 PM +0100 »

I never made the race again Simon.  

The exact same thing happened at Estoril for upper endurance. During qualifying my timing screen goes mental. It does not record peoples times, laps completed and put the grid in the wrong order too.

I can't remember you at Estoril but that night everything went berserk too. It was showing a GTC car driven by Dan Minton second on my screen against GT1 cars! It turned out Zacari was second in qualification but his name did not even appear on my screen. Zacari was somehow Dan on my screen as I could see how the events of qualification took place. Dan was first for ages on my screen only for CJ to pip him late on in session. Yet it turned out Zacari was first for ages, then CJ pipped him.

There was a full field but according to my game 21 at Estoril. I did have a full field tonight.

Every practice session is fine, practice for hours on practice server is fine, come real qualification things go mental and no reason for it.

I've taken part in numerous races since Estoril upper endurance no problems, but tonight it's all gone wrong again.

I can't for the life of me understand what the hell is going on.

It's highly frustrating as nothing stands out to be wrong. I sort my plans out to make time for racing, turn up and it all goes wrong and wastes my night.

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« Reply #50 on: September 16, 2007, 11:02:29 PM +0100 »

I´m sorry to hear that Ginsters  Shocked
Just for curiosity. I started race with:
77 Lt / 31 Laps / 0.55 mnts.
when i went to my pit stop i add:
51 Lt / 20 Laps / 0.35 mnts.

This time the full tank only could do ~72 minutes, so i decided to start with less
fuel than usual  Smiley
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« Reply #51 on: September 16, 2007, 11:05:56 PM +0100 »

Good race. Enjoyed that although not too much excitement for me down in my usual spot Sad

I am so glad I didn't take the vertigo  Shocked...I was 5 laps down in the 360....wouldn't like to guess how many it would have been in that Roll Eyes.

Started ok...did a pb in qually which was just enough to put me in front of Freq in a GT1 Wink kept him behind for nearly a full second at the start but managed to sneak past RB with a Hamilton the first chicane Smiley. Held my own between 1 and 2 seconds down on a few cars infront for 5 or 6 laps till I did my usual early error and dropped back to about 12 seconds. That was about as close as I got to anyone for the rest of the race...just seemed to be going backwards 2 secs down on my 'normal' lap times Huh

Appologies to the person (sorry didn't catch who it was) I baulked in the parabolica. I saw you approaching rapidly and tried to stay left to let you through but lost my back end and slid straight accross you. Hope it didn't cost you much.

Excellent overtaking from all the GT1's (and most of the GTC's Cheesy) when lapping...couldn't find fault anywhere. clap

grats to winners and podiums....see you all tomorrow in the Viper CC.
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« Reply #52 on: September 16, 2007, 11:06:35 PM +0100 »

Very 'eventful' race for me that one!

Was going reasonably well for a while (except I was getting a lot of 'blue flag' warnings despite no one behind me), and I'd made a few places up to 8th. Mo and Backo had a coming together somehow at the Parabolica, and Backo looked to be spinning to the infield, so I went to the right, and met him coming up Sad The result was a big puncture and body damage.  Really sorry Backo, I tried to avoid you, but couldn't see which way you were going.

Then, with me stuck in the middle of the track, it happened again with Darren, who couldn't see me to avoid the collision. *smack* again.. Darren's Morgan is destroyed (sorry mate) and I end up limping to the pits, sure my race was over.

Got the car repaired and back under way. Buggered up my strategy too, so had to make 2 stops. Got back on pace - Jure and Claus were too fast for me, so couldn't make up any places. Had little moment while passing Ginsters. I think that was partially my fault as I was slow (because I gave you room on the apex, and my tyres were off).

At some point I also made a very dumb move on Mark Jonzo. I'm really sorry mate - I was trying to be 'clever' - taking a wide line into Lesmo 1 and overtake you on the inside, only I badly miscalculated my speed versus yours and I biffed you. Very very sorry Sad Glad you didn't spin!

Reasonably happy with my finishing slot, although would have been higher if not for getting caught up in other people's accidents. I really need to learn to slow down more for spinners!
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« Reply #53 on: September 16, 2007, 11:07:34 PM +0100 »

Quick question Pops - why did you change your tyres? There were only 15-20 minutes or so left, so fresh tyres would have needed to give you at least 2 seconds a lap (not very likely at Monza).
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« Reply #54 on: September 16, 2007, 11:10:26 PM +0100 »

Quick question Pops - why did you change your tyres? There were only 15-20 minutes or so left, so fresh tyres would have needed to give you at least 2 seconds a lap (not very likely at Monza).

They were pretty shot and I'm hopeless on worn tyres Cheesy

I decided to play it safe and bring it home for some points as we were struggling as a team.
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« Reply #55 on: September 16, 2007, 11:14:03 PM +0100 »

Results above, replay here and you will find the provisional standings here
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« Reply #56 on: September 16, 2007, 11:21:45 PM +0100 »

Sorry for the delayed start, there was an issue with GTR2 Manager. Thanks to Dave for sorting out and getting the show on the road.

Think I need to do some setup work, I was getting eaten up on the long straights. A couple of times I got a good tow from Pop's 350z only to pull out and drop back Sad Still made for some excitement until I made some errors and was no longer receiving the benefit from the hole in the air Pops was leaving.

Ran fairly consistently but made a silly error overssteering out of Lesmo 2 and the brush with the Armco signaled a crawl back to the pits with a front right puncture. Can't have been much damage as the pitsop, including fuel and tyres was 31 secs.

Man test was to see if the PC ran ok after the strange crash in the display drivers at Valencia and that seemed successful. Roll on next Sunday Smiley
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« Reply #57 on: September 16, 2007, 11:38:08 PM +0100 »

Qualified 6th. Overtook Paul Richards and after a fearsome battle CJ and Zacari managed to get me in front of them.  Wink  Shark and Rusky were too fast for me, but I'm happy with my undeserved 3rd place.  Cool  Seems like a birthday present. Thanks guys!  Grin

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« Reply #58 on: September 16, 2007, 11:41:43 PM +0100 »


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« Reply #59 on: September 16, 2007, 11:59:02 PM +0100 »

My engine went bang Sad which was a shame, I tend to go well here!

Quali was fine in 4th with the ballast.  In the race I got some damage from CJ when he spun in T1 trying to pass Shark, then had a brief battle with Shark which was great Cool  I lost touch in traffic though including one off and I got a big wiggle on a couple of laps later pushing too hard and went down to 5th; 4th once CJ pitted.  Was chasing down TT quite happily knowing I wouldn't be pitting until about 30 mins left, unfortunately the engine waved a large white flag over the s/f line at half-distance Embarrassed

Grats on both podiums, and to Joss for battling through to 5th from the back! thumbup1
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