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October 04, 2007, 08:53:58 PM +0100 - Snetterton (1964) - UKGTL Season 3 GT Classics Cup
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#200167) GTC-65 2 +0.198
98.941mph
1 41:15.387
96.961mph
25 1:37.606
98.361mph
Dunlop  
baracus250gt
 Ghostspeed
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 3 +0.443
98.692mph
2 +4.062
96.802mph
25 1:37.292
98.679mph
Dunlop  
BACKO
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 7 +2.128
97.011mph
3 +30.320
95.788mph
25 1:39.018
96.959mph
Dunlop  
Madd-RIP
 Team RVS
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 1 1:36.836
99.143mph
4 (+2) +46.633
95.168mph
25 1:37.583
98.384mph
Dunlop  
ossie
 
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 11 +2.768
96.388mph
5 +55.985
94.817mph
25 1:39.204
96.777mph
Dunlop  
Adam Parle
 Legends Racing
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 6 +1.385
97.745mph
6 +56.420
94.800mph
25 1:38.543
97.426mph
Dunlop  
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed
Shelby GT350 (#807) GTC-65 14 +3.404
95.777mph
7 (+2) +57.848
94.747mph
25 1:39.725
96.271mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#200167) GTC-65 8 +2.299
96.844mph
8 +1:26.537
93.686mph
25 1:39.484
96.504mph
Dunlop  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 9 +2.309
96.834mph
9 +1L
92.813mph
24 1:39.691
96.304mph
Dunlop  
picnic
 Team Shark
Austin-Healey 3000 (#200105) GTC-65 15 +3.829
95.372mph
10 +36.025
91.486mph
24 1:40.412
95.612mph
Dunlop  
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing
Mercedes 300SL (#455) GTC-65 17 +4.595
94.652mph
11 +52.541
90.890mph
24 1:42.045
94.082mph
Dunlop  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 4 +0.794
98.337mph
12 (+1) +6L 19 1:38.855
97.118mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Steve Holmes
 
Mercedes 300SL (#456) GTC-65 10 +2.332
96.812mph
13 +15L 10 1:40.336
95.685mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 13 +3.392
95.788mph
14 +16L 9 1:40.910
95.141mph
unknown
Dunlop  
KL Mallender
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 16 +4.130
95.088mph
15 9 1:41.982
94.141mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Aagramn
 Team Shark Junior
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#200376) GTC-65 12 +2.843
96.316mph
16 +18L 7 1:39.774
96.224mph
unknown
Dunlop  
stnasky
 
Shelby GT350 (#880) GTC-65 17 +20L 5 1:42.128
94.006mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 5 +1.355
97.775mph
18 +22L 3 1:39.536
96.454mph
DQ
Dunlop  

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Server replay time: 70s

Madd-Rip messes up his start, causing alot of mayhem when almost the whole grid has to swerve around him. Two corners later Madd tries to make up some ground but misses his braking point. He notices that he isn't going to make it and steers on the banking, to try and keep damage to a minimum. He drives into the side of Syd, but there isn't alot harm done there. However, Psuedo gets collected more and goes off, losing some places. Psuedo couldn't have done anything to prevent it as Madd came out of nowhere, many carlenghts behind.
Because the start could also been seen as an incident as it caused people to go off as well I give a 2 places lost for this. 1 place for both incidents.

  • Madd-RIPpenalty — Dangerous start and pushing Psuedo off. — 2 places lost


Server replay time: 98s

Pribeiro is off the racing line when he starts braking. Steve was on the racing line, far infront of Pribeiro and probably did not expect him coming. There was nobody close behind of Steve, so he steered in to claim the apex when Pribeiro comes in with too much speed and drifts Steve off the track. It was at the start of the race so Steve lost around 10 places, by what seemed to be a avoidable incident.
Avoidable and with big consequenses, which results in 2 places penalty.


Server replay time: 127s

Aagramn gets a bit sideways coming out of the Esses and Dan Minton, who has a reasonable view of things, fails to account for this and accelerates into the back of him, spinning him out and then getting taken out himself as Aagramn's out of control car spins back across the track.

I'm only giving out a single place penalty as this was poor judgement rather than outright dangerous or inconsiderate driving.

  • Dan Mintonpenalty — avoidable first lap contact — 1 place lost

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« on: September 27, 2007, 11:16:55 PM +0100 »

All members welcome.

Special Notes:
1) There are no start lights, instead there are "authentic" starting marshals who wave a green flag to mark the start of the race.
2) The pole sitter can't see any of these marshalls without using the "look left" feature.


Practice: 20:15 (10 mins)
Qualifying: 20:25 (25 mins)
Race: 20:50 (25 laps = ~40 mins)

Track: Snetterton 1964 v1.3 (download here)
Cars allowed: Ferrari 275, Austin Healey, Mercedes 300SL, Shelby GT350
Time of Day Setting: 6:00
Start: STANDING

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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2007, 11:20:11 PM +0100 »

I have not decided on the car list yet. If it's possible if anyone has a spare night either tonight or Saturday could they try the following GTC-65 cars at this track and post relative lap times...
1) Austin Healey 3000
2) Chevlrolet Corvette
3) Ferrari 275 GTB
4) Jag E-Type
5) Lotus Elan
6) Mercedes 300SL
7) Shelby Daytona Coupe
8) Shelby GT350
9) TVR Griffith 400

Thanks in advance to anyone that has the time to try these cars.
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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2007, 06:26:44 PM +0100 »

Had a try of some, benchmarked to E-type.  Started with E-type, 12 laps to reacquaint with track, then 5 timed lap for each of the others.  I'm no expert in any, jack of all trades, so should be reasonably representative.

Shelby Daytona  -2.0
Corvette           -1.4
E-type             +0.0
Ferrari              +1.6
Healey              +1.8

Merc would be close to Healey, since this is a real power circuit, and Healey run out of steam.
TVR should be pretty close to Shelby
GT350, around Ferrari maybe, lot more grunt and Ferrari lacks torque.
Elan needs benchmarking, anyone's guess.

But I'm outta time, gotta go cook, may get a chance tomorrow morning if no-one else does.
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2007, 07:24:39 PM +0100 »

Thanks Steve, that's really helpful.
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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2007, 07:29:11 PM +0100 »

No problem Simon.

In fact, grabbed time to lap Elan and got -0.8 compared to E-type.  Not enough twisties for the tin foil wonder to gain time on the V8s!
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2007, 12:14:23 PM +0100 »

What if you took out the fast cars, Daytona, Griffith, maybe Elan, Corvette and maybe even E-type too?

That would leave a race between
Healey
Ferrari
Mercedes
Shelby GT350

This way the differences in cars wouldn't be so big. I'd say there is no way to compensate when driving the slower cars, if you're driving against Daytona and Griffith. Only way to beat the faster cars is if they spin *multiple* times.

Just a thought, feel free to reject it.

Personally I enjoy the Daytona a lot, and out of the slow ones the Ferrari is pretty nice too, bound to get sideways a lot towards the end of the race in both.
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2007, 12:24:37 PM +0100 »

Mike's suggestion would work, I got times for the other 2 'slow' cars:

GT350    +2.1
Merc      +2.4

so all within 0.8s.  I'd happily take the Merc for a change, it was really stable to drift too.

Of course the fast V8s would all match up well too, so it's up to the boss!
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2007, 01:00:15 PM +0100 »

Oh and three times

1.35.3 Daytona
1.37.3 Elan (+2)
1.39.9 Ferrari (+4,5)
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2007, 10:50:34 PM +0100 »

Thanks guys. Car list now confirmed in original race post. Ultimately I think the E-Type would be quite a lot quicker than the other 4 cars so it's not really fair to use it.
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2007, 10:54:32 PM +0100 »

Ooh Jolly, the GT350 Grin
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2007, 10:59:16 PM +0100 »

Ooh Jolly, the GT350 Grin

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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2007, 11:00:45 AM +0100 »

Ooh Jolly, the GT350 Grin

Quite! What a fantastic beast it is.

If only I'd not taken the Mustang for Oulton, too similar, need more variety, and I've never driven the Merc in more than a 5-lapper before.  This is probably one of the few tracks where it can be moderately competitive.  Besides, it was the only one I couldn't get below 1:40, so that presents a nice challenge!

I think the standard (non-lightweight) fastback E-type might be fair, I'm usually a few 10ths quicker in the Ferrari than that, but there isn't any way to exclude the lightweights is there?
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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2007, 01:52:23 PM +0100 »

I think the standard (non-lightweight) fastback E-type might be fair, I'm usually a few 10ths quicker in the Ferrari than that, but there isn't any way to exclude the lightweights is there?

Nope, the car filtering doesn't go that far unfortunately.
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« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2007, 04:58:13 PM +0100 »

Anybody else got some times? This track is not listed on either gtlrank or nogrip. I've only driven Ferrari and my best so far is a 1.39.4.
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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2007, 07:19:39 AM +0100 »

Family visit means I can't make this one. Have fun and see you in The Netherlands next week.

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