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  • L4 Turagua: November 22, 2007
November 22, 2007, 08:52:56 PM +0000 - Turagua - UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Lotus Cortina (#200108) TC-65 D2 1 1:15.097
68.146mph
1 38:04.569
67.202mph
30 1:15.370
67.899mph
Dunlop  
Mike Hammer
 
Lotus Cortina (#955) TC-65 D2 2 +0.452
67.738mph
2 +7.160
66.992mph
30 1:14.935
68.293mph
Dunlop  
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed
Lotus Cortina (#202553) TC-65 D2 10 +1.944
66.427mph
3 +50.231
65.756mph
30 1:16.240
67.125mph
Dunlop  
baracus250gt
 Ghostspeed
Lotus Cortina (#202553) TC-65 D2 13 +2.148
66.251mph
4 +56.441
65.582mph
30 1:16.272
67.096mph
Dunlop  
Adam Parle
 Legends Racing
Lotus Cortina (#200804) TC-65 D2 6 +1.820
66.534mph
5 +1:01.646
65.436mph
30 1:16.735
66.692mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Lotus Cortina (#200108) TC-65 D2 15 +2.625
65.845mph
6 +1:02.002
65.426mph
30 1:16.690
66.731mph
Dunlop  
Steve Holmes
 Legends Racing
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#200801) TC-65 D2 7 +1.833
66.522mph
7 +1:04.822
65.348mph
30 1:16.982
66.478mph
Dunlop  
stnasky
 
Lotus Cortina (#961) TC-65 D2 5 +1.649
66.682mph
8 (+2) +1:05.147
65.339mph
30 1:15.996
67.340mph
Dunlop  
Phil Gilliland
 
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#597) TC-65 D2 3 +1.531
66.785mph
9 +1:05.727
65.322mph
30 1:16.771
66.660mph
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus Cortina (#961) TC-65 D2 9 +1.884
66.478mph
10 +1:16.606
65.022mph
30 1:16.719
66.705mph
Dunlop  
will16v
 Prodigy Racing
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#118124) TC-65 D2 16 +2.873
65.635mph
11 +1L
64.578mph
29 1:17.575
65.969mph
Dunlop  
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#205277) TC-65 D2 4 +1.606
66.719mph
12 +1.239
64.543mph
29 1:17.214
66.278mph
Dunlop  
Lee.
 
Lotus Cortina (#121206) TC-65 D2 12 +2.137
66.261mph
13 +17.842
64.081mph
29 1:17.619
65.932mph
Dunlop  
ossie
 
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#126310) TC-65 D2 8 +1.872
66.489mph
14 +56.052
63.040mph
29 1:18.071
65.550mph
Dunlop  
madmac
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Lotus Cortina (#961) TC-65 D2 19 +3.466
65.140mph
15 +56.502
63.028mph
29 1:18.978
64.797mph
Dunlop  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Lotus Cortina (#955) TC-65 D2 20 +3.843
64.829mph
16 +1:00.573
62.920mph
29 1:18.992
64.786mph
Dunlop  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#205501) TC-65 D2 21 +4.122
64.600mph
17 +1:06.275
62.768mph
29 1:18.398
65.277mph
Dunlop  
Sandor M
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#205501) TC-65 D2 18 +3.439
65.162mph
18 +2L
62.458mph
28 1:18.788
64.954mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Prodigy Racing
Lotus Cortina (#904) TC-65 D2 22 +4.832
64.026mph
19 +44.684
61.265mph
28 1:20.113
63.879mph
Dunlop  
Davor Mirkovic
 
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#597) TC-65 D2 17 +3.426
65.173mph
20 +55.184
60.991mph
28 1:19.579
64.308mph
Dunlop  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#595) TC-65 D2 23 +5.410
63.567mph
21 +56.663
60.953mph
28 1:18.825
64.923mph
Dunlop  
Tibernius
 Prodigy Racing
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#590) TC-65 D2 24 +6.130
63.003mph
22 +3L
60.420mph
27 1:19.369
64.478mph
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Lotus Cortina (#200804) TC-65 D2 11 +2.063
66.324mph
23 +6L 24 1:17.220
66.273mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Mr.BMW
 
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#595) TC-65 D2 14 +2.515
65.938mph
+30L 0 ---
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unknown
Dunlop  

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Server replay time: 473s

Psuedo goed off very wide onte the grass. Because he was so wide he had a very high rejoinspeed. He rejoins under a very big angle and at the moment of contact, his nose isn't pointing towards the direction of the track, but more at the apex of the corner. Not much Madmac could have done, as it was his line.
There were no places lost, but apperently Madmac had a broken steering (eventhough he could maintain his speed). That reduces the penaty to 1 place lost for Psuedo.

  • psuedopenalty — Bad rejoin — 1 place lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 2052s

Baracus and Mark McClean are heading towards the last corner. Mark tries to outbrake Baracus but locks up all wheels and hits Phil Gilliland at the rear, causing him to spin and lose alot of places.

Mark was battling with Baracus and Phil was at the wrong places at the wrong time when Mark locked up. Mark wasn't battling directly with Phil. But because the damage was big for Phil and it was avoidable, it gets 2 places lost penalty.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GT Legends
TC-65 D2
1:15.097
68.146mph
Jeffrey
Qualifying
Lotus CortinaNovember 22, 2007, 08:52:56 PM +0000
L4
GT Legends
TC-65 D2
1:14.935
68.293mph
Mike Hammer
Race
Lotus CortinaNovember 22, 2007, 08:52:56 PM +0000
L4
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« Reply #90 on: November 23, 2007, 09:55:40 AM +0000 »

The rules actually are quite clear already.

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Pit In Issued a corner or two before the pit entry to warn any following drivers that the car is about to pit.
Becuase cars in GTR have no indicators, the use of a pit in message is encouraged.
Pit Out Issued as the driver passes the speed limit point on the way out of the pits.
This is not an excuse to rejoin regardless of oncoming traffic!
Using a pit out message is permitted but is not encouraged.

As an addition to my post above....I would strongly suggest all new drivers read the rules and guidelines. The link is on the blue menu bar towards the top of the screen and is marked 'Rules'

It may be worth while some established drivers re-aquaint themselves with them too.. Tongue laugh

So pit out is not compulsory, I thought it was. Apologies to SBG, I should have remembered that the pit-out message isn't required.
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« Reply #91 on: November 23, 2007, 10:29:18 AM +0000 »

Hmm, sounds like there was some unwanted action last night, must admit I didn't see anything other than Phil (Gilliland) and Mark (McLean) coming together at the last corner that gifted me a semi-respectable finish but was really bad luck for them both after they'd had been racing well (and quicker than me).

I messed up my setup, changed the diff at the end of qually and only ran an out lap with it.  The change left me with too much understeer so my exits from the slow corners were dire.  Only the mini's speed through the esses at the start allowed me to stay ahead of some faster cars for a while.  Then I got squirrely under braking for the last corner and lost the back end.  Finishing 7th was pretty good result with my ever-decreasing pace in the race, and the battle from 3rd to 9th/10th was pretty intense and great fun for almost the entire race. 

Mightily impressive pace at the front from Ruskus and Mike Hammer - when you two didn't pull away much from Phil and I for the first few laps I thought it might be close, but no chance!
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« Reply #92 on: November 23, 2007, 10:53:03 AM +0000 »

S Holmes: From where I was it looked like you had your headlights on for a while. Do these rules also count for GTL?  Huh

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When racing in the day during good weather the following drivers may run with headlights on:
the race leader in a single class race
GT and G2 class drivers in a mixed class race
Other drivers are requested to run without headlights turned on.

I honestly don't know about the headlights, i have to have every setting on it's lowest for GTL to run, which makes headlights difficult to see.
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« Reply #93 on: November 23, 2007, 10:58:21 AM +0000 »

You can use your headlights (flash) when lapping to indicate when you're going to pass.  In a race where the cars performance is so similar (such as last night) it's not a bad idea.

Similarly, you'll often get a flash as people go by as a "thanks" for cooperating.
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« Reply #94 on: November 23, 2007, 11:00:36 AM +0000 »

I shouldn't have, I certainly didn't turn them on intentionally, and I didn't notice any cone of light in front.  I didn't even use them once as I approached backmarkers or anything like that.  I suppose its possible I hit the button by mistake (I did spin and things always get a bit hairy then!) - anyone else see my headlights?!!
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« Reply #95 on: November 23, 2007, 11:03:01 AM +0000 »

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S Holmes: From where I was it looked like you had your headlights on for a while. Do these rules also count for GTL?  

Yes. The rules and guidelines relate in exactly the same measure for ALL SimRacing.org events, Gtr2, GTL, Race 07 etc etc.
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« Reply #96 on: November 23, 2007, 11:05:44 AM +0000 »

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Yes. The rules and guidelines relate in exactly the same measure for ALL SimRacing.org events, Gtr2, GTL, Race 07 etc etc.

Thanks, I thought they did I just wasn't sure since it kept mentioning GTR.
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« Reply #97 on: November 23, 2007, 11:08:27 AM +0000 »

I shouldn't have, I certainly didn't turn them on intentionally, and I didn't notice any cone of light in front.  I didn't even use them once as I approached backmarkers or anything like that.  I suppose its possible I hit the button by mistake (I did spin and things always get a bit hairy then!) - anyone else see my headlights?!!

I'm not 100% sure, but I thought I saw the headlights, and I did get a slight drop in FPS when your car was visible.
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« Reply #98 on: November 23, 2007, 11:10:19 AM +0000 »

...I did get a slight drop in FPS when your car was visible.

Maybe your system was just in awe of the beauty of the Legends Mini, I know I got distracted by it for a good few laps too Wink.
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« Reply #99 on: November 23, 2007, 11:11:18 AM +0000 »

The lights will show up on the replay...if in doubt
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« Reply #100 on: November 23, 2007, 11:18:04 AM +0000 »

...I did get a slight drop in FPS when your car was visible.

Maybe your system was just in awe of the beauty of the Legends Mini, I know I got distracted by it for a good few laps too Wink.

Hold on a minute...Legends MINI? Sorry Holmes that wasn't you, it was a Cortina. I wonder who it was then?
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« Reply #101 on: November 23, 2007, 11:18:24 AM +0000 »

If my lights *were* on then they need upgrading it was darn dark out there, took a while to adjust to the low light!  Pass the halogen bulbs please.   Cheesy
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« Reply #102 on: November 23, 2007, 11:22:30 AM +0000 »

Since when are you a Legend racer Steve?
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« Reply #103 on: November 23, 2007, 11:24:09 AM +0000 »

He's been a Legend for a few weeks now but the avatar production team needed poking with a pointy stick several times before they came up with the goods Wink
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« Reply #104 on: November 23, 2007, 11:25:19 AM +0000 »

Hold on a minute...Legends MINI? Sorry Holmes that wasn't you, it was a Cortina. I wonder who it was then?

If it was Legends Cortina it was prolly me.  I flashed someone on the infield to indicate that I wanted to pass (I was lapping them so I'm quite within my rights to do that), but again, the lights were definately off for the rest of the race.

I'd check the replay though if I were you.




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