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December 13, 2007, 08:52:35 PM +0000 - Road Atlanta (Full 2007+) - UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Mike Hammer
 
Alfa Romeo GTA (#956) TC-65 D2 1 1:31.791
87.611mph
1 39:20.504
85.171mph
25 1:32.255
87.170mph
Dunlop  
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Shelby GT350 (#880) GTC-65 3 +1.085
86.587mph
2 +2.129
85.094mph
25 1:32.646
86.802mph
Dunlop  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Alfa Romeo GTA (#202954) TC-65 D2 2 +0.717
86.932mph
3 +23.363
84.336mph
25 1:33.471
86.036mph
Dunlop  
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed
Shelby GT350 (#807) GTC-65 7 +2.541
85.251mph
4 +51.433
83.355mph
25 1:34.534
85.068mph
Dunlop  
[POOdle]Keith
 
Shelby GT350 (#880) GTC-65 6 +2.329
85.443mph
5 +56.374
83.184mph
25 1:34.649
84.965mph
Dunlop  
Steve Holmes
 Legends Racing
Shelby GT350 (#200859) GTC-65 9 +2.673
85.131mph
6 +1:03.381
82.944mph
25 1:34.951
84.695mph
Dunlop  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Shelby GT350 (#880) GTC-65 11 +2.855
84.968mph
7 (+1) +1:07.409
82.806mph
25 1:34.585
85.023mph
Dunlop  
Lee.
 
Alfa Romeo GTA (#922) TC-65 D2 14 +3.717
84.201mph
8 +1:28.100
82.107mph
25 1:35.055
84.602mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Shelby GT350 (#807) GTC-65 15 +3.824
84.107mph
9 +1:40.236
81.702mph
25 1:35.248
84.431mph
Dunlop  
[POOdle]andyq
 
Alfa Romeo GTA (#958) TC-65 D2 8 +2.582
85.214mph
10 +1L
81.722mph
24 1:35.268
84.413mph
Dunlop  
Mr.BMW
 Prodigy Racing
Alfa Romeo GTA (#907) TC-65 D2 12 +3.015
84.824mph
11 +7.491
81.463mph
24 1:35.425
84.274mph
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Shelby GT350 (#200859) GTC-65 17 +4.288
83.701mph
12 +17.742
81.112mph
24 1:35.895
83.861mph
Dunlop  
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing
Alfa Romeo GTA (#922) TC-65 D2 13 +3.087
84.760mph
13 +29.890
80.700mph
24 1:36.377
83.442mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Prodigy Racing
Shelby GT350 (#880) GTC-65 18 +4.452
83.558mph
14 +39.385
80.381mph
24 1:36.977
82.925mph
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Falcon (#825) TC-65 D2 16 +3.954
83.992mph
15 +39.423
80.380mph
24 1:36.871
83.016mph
Dunlop  
ossie
 
Alfa Romeo GTA (#126307) TC-65 D2 5 +2.230
85.533mph
16 +1:08.002
79.434mph
24 1:35.195
84.478mph
Dunlop  
Sandor M
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Alfa Romeo GTA (#205502) TC-65 D2 19 +5.706
82.483mph
17 (+2) +1:12.383
79.291mph
24 1:37.137
82.789mph
Dunlop  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
Alfa Romeo GTA (#922) TC-65 D2 22 +8.863
79.896mph
18 +2L
76.759mph
23 1:39.568
80.768mph
Dunlop  
Tibernius
 Prodigy Racing
Alfa Romeo GTA (#956) TC-65 D2 21 +8.134
80.479mph
19 +29.606
75.828mph
23 1:39.752
80.619mph
Dunlop  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Alfa Romeo GTA (#205502) TC-65 D2 20 +6.678
81.669mph
20 +35.280
75.652mph
23 1:38.597
81.563mph
Dunlop  
Adam Parle
 Legends Racing
Shelby GT350 (#200859) GTC-65 10 +2.748
85.064mph
21 +17L 8 1:35.461
84.242mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Bernie Lomax
 Legends Racing
Alfa Romeo GTA (#200802) TC-65 D2 4 +2.098
85.653mph
22 +22L 3 1:36.201
83.594mph
unknown
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 57s

Bernie Lomax is bumping sponsored by ginsters entering turn 1, which eventually causes him to spin. Luckily this went fine for all other drivers, but several drivers made contact.

Wreckless driving in the first turn after start is not what we're looking for in this league. Please take care as the field is very compact at this time in the race, and this could've resulted in a massive collision forcing people to retire.

  • Bernie Lomaxwarning — Dangerous driving
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 144s

Syd Drake is trying to pass ossie on the right hand side before the last turn. They're along side each other as they enter the last turn. But then ossie, who is on the outside, begins to cut the turn like he normally would. And Syd is on the inside, but takes the turn wide. This combination makes Syd drive into the side of ossie, forcing ossie off the road and hard into the pit wall.

Both drivers sould here give room for each other. They were along side long before the turn. But as ossie lost it and Syd didn't, and Syd on the inside did go very wide, I feel Syd is most at blame here.

Appealed...

...Appeal approved: Syd initially got 1 place lost. This is now reduced to a warning.


Server replay time: 215s

Bernie Lomax is trying to pass Bill on the inside on exit of a right hand turn. But as he's trying to pass, Bill moves just a tad to the right but still far to the left of the road. And at the same time Bernie is very close to Bill, still moving to the left. This ends with contact, forcing Bill to spin out.

  • Bernie Lomaxwarning — Over-Ambitious Overtake
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded
  • BillThomas (Bill)warning — Blocking/Weaving
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 802s

Syd Drake tries to pass Adam Parle on the inside by braking later. He then slides sideways on the inside and into Adam.

The contact was light and did not ruin Adams race physically, but due to the frustration Adam did have difficulty keeping the car on the track after that.

Appealed...

...Appeal rejected. This is a very dangerous and uncontrollable overtake, it's purely luck that Adam isn't hit harder. And it's not the only time during this race that this driver has attempted this manouver.

  • Syd Drakepenalty — Over-Ambitious Overtake — 1 place lost


Server replay time: 923s

Ossie's trying to pass Jebstone Boppman in the first left hand turn in this chicane, by not braking before the turn. Thus slamming into Jebstone.

  • ossie (0ssie)penalty — Over-Ambitious Overtake — 2 places lost (plus 2 for penalty points)
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 1195s

Jebstone hits Ossie as Ossie is passing on the inside in a right hander, and is forced off the road. He then rejoins and spins into Marc Jonzo, hitting him hard in the side.

  • Mr.BMW (Jebstone Boppman)penalty — Bad Rejoin — 1 place lost (plus 1 for penalty points)
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 1439s

Jebstone Boppman is catching up with sponsored by ginsters as they approach the last turn. Sponsored is driving a much heavyer car than Jebstone and is therefor taking this turn slower than Jebstone. Jebstone doesn't realize this, and is slamming into sponsored's rear, forcing him into a spin.

  • Mr.BMW (Jebstone Boppman)penalty — Rear-Ending — 2 places lost (plus 1 for penalty points)
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 2344s

Sandor Mooijekind had gone off earlier, and was trying to get back on the track. At the same time several drivers approached the turn where Sandor tried to re-enter, and one of them are Ossie. Ossie did not manage to stay away from Sandor, as Sandor did rejoin where it's usual to touch the curb on exit, and he also drove towards the middle of the track once back on the track.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GT Legends
TC-65 D2
1:31.791
87.611mph
Mike Hammer
Qualifying
Alfa Romeo GTADecember 13, 2007, 08:52:35 PM +0000
L4
GT Legends
TC-65 D2
1:32.255
87.170mph
Mike Hammer
Race
Alfa Romeo GTADecember 13, 2007, 08:52:35 PM +0000
L4
GT Legends
GTC-65
1:32.876
86.587mph
Jeffrey
Qualifying
Shelby GT350December 13, 2007, 08:52:35 PM +0000
L4
GT Legends
GTC-65
1:32.646
86.802mph
Jeffrey
Race
Shelby GT350December 13, 2007, 08:52:35 PM +0000
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« on: October 20, 2007, 03:54:29 PM +0100 »

All members welcome.

Practice: 20:15 (10 mins)
Qualifying: 20:25 (25 mins)
Race: 20:50 (25 laps = ~40 mins)

Track: Road Atlanta v1.0 (download here)
Cars allowed: Alfa Romeo GTA, Ford Falcon, Ford Mustang, Shelby GT350.
Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Start: STANDING

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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2007, 03:14:10 PM +0100 »

Where's the Mustang?

Simon, please can the Mustang be added, as the Falcon is here also?
The Mustang does not feature in any of season 4's events as far as i can see... Huh
I know there are a few drivers aswell as myself who like this machine - would it be a problem to add it?
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2007, 04:29:19 PM +0100 »

It's not competitive against those two cars. One of the problems I've had with the car choices is that it's clear the aliens don't want to take the slow cars, so I didn't want others starting from a lower step to start with from their car choice alone.

It's not a problem adding the Mustang with the Falcon there, if it's really wanted, but be aware it's not the same pace as the other two.
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2007, 04:56:06 PM +0100 »

just a question, why are we limiting car choice so much? I'd prefer to see a better spread of car types on track.
Why for instance isnt the cortina present as an option against the Alfa? Likewise if someone wants a 'stang' let them have it, someone like JR can get the beast around nicely if he wants the challenge.  And i still think we ought to throw the Toyota corolla mod into the mix, it fits perfectly in with the cortina and Alfa to add more variety.

Road atlanta is a great track.  Cool
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2007, 07:55:30 PM +0100 »

It's not competitive against those two cars. One of the problems I've had with the car choices is that it's clear the aliens don't want to take the slow cars, so I didn't want others starting from a lower step to start with from their car choice alone.

It's not a problem adding the Mustang with the Falcon there, if it's really wanted, but be aware it's not the same pace as the other two.

I know its not on the pace of the falcon or Alfa, but some just like to take it out once in a while, and it would be nice to see just even once next season - can you add it? Grin
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2007, 10:35:56 PM +0100 »

Too varied a field in GTL equals boring racing.
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2007, 11:11:30 PM +0100 »

Does that mean no? i know what you are saying Simon, but it would be nice to make that choice ourselves  Tongue.
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2007, 12:05:02 PM +0100 »

Too varied a field in GTL equals boring racing.

yes if the cars are that much different, but why isnt the cortina in against the alfa? it can give it a run for its money on most tracks. (not to mention the corolla which can race against both).
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2007, 12:29:33 PM +0100 »

yes if the cars are that much different, but why isnt the cortina in against the alfa? it can give it a run for its money on most tracks.

Because there are other races with Cortina only and not Alfa, so that Aliens who always pick the Alfa are forced into something less good.

Alfa and Falcon are a match on certain circuits, like this.
Cortina and Mustang would be a match on this circuit too.
But together they are not. The Alfa's 5 gears are a bigger advantage here at Road Atlanta with the hills and twists.

(not to mention the corolla which can race against both).

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http://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3604.msg59947#msg59947
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2007, 01:11:02 PM +0100 »

So can we add the Mustang or not? Huh

Mark, are you going to post the Corolla on the relevant GTL skinpack thread?
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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2007, 01:39:51 PM +0100 »

So can we add the Mustang or not? Huh

You are at a disadvantage with the Mustang, but given that it does not feature in any of the other races, nor can I see where it could feature I will allow it for this race and you seem desperate to race it's fat ugly arse  Wink I will include it cause I'm feeling nice. Shocked laugh
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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2007, 02:15:13 PM +0100 »

what do i have to do to submit it to the contributions?  That thread will not let me post or add a reply  Huh

We should also use the excellent TR4 mod too. There are several variations of it and its well tested online and offline with a proper set of physics and enthusiasts behind it and a set of skins available.  Cool
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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2007, 02:20:34 PM +0100 »

what do i have to do to submit it to the contributions?  That thread will not let me post or add a reply  Huh

Follow the board's instructions. angel

Although I would say we don't need it in UKGTL format, as long as it has a unique numbering scheme as it's not a UKGTL skinned car, but it musn't interfere with any of the other original cars. Can you make sure it's clear that it's a new addon car in the topic's title and description so that the skin checkers know that it doesn't need to follow the UKGTL format. Obviously it will still need checking to make sure it actually works and doesn't interfere with the other cars.
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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2007, 03:18:11 PM +0100 »

eek, have never submitted any skin stuff for any game as i dont know how to  Embarrassed

But surely as these cars are pure add-on, they just get added to our game directories under the relevant section? ie they dont need any UKGTL number referencing until someone skins them. If i am getting this right they are just more base cars to choose from for skinners and or racers to use.
For instance Toyota Corolla uses car numbers 400cy and 401cy, and creates its own dir under TC65.

So if thats the case do i just need to point people to the relevant links to download from? I dont mind writing any instructions to use them should the supplied readme's not be clear enough.

Be nice to include a set of decent skins for each add on car being that they are done already. I am happy to test and collate some if okay to use?

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« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2007, 03:30:15 PM +0100 »

I think we need to download the whole file for the car (Tex, Ultra Tex, Car File, Bink file etc) - the whole thing that allows the Corolla to run in game - do you have any links Mark?
Once we have this, we can add the file - if the skin is copyrighted, we may need to get permission, or just skin a couple of our own...if i'm right?

Simon - my Mustang does not have a fat ugly arse - thats not a very nice comment is it! Angry Wink

But thankyou for adding, i'll let you past as a favour on the track when i'm killing you all in the Mustang Cheesy
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