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January 17, 2008, 08:53:14 PM +0000 - Brands Hatch (Indy) - UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
baracus250gt
 Ghostspeed
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 1 54.732
80.282mph
1 39:59.062
78.756mph
43 54.986
79.911mph
Dunlop  
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#200167) GTC-65 2 +0.076
80.170mph
2 +17.493
78.186mph
43 55.202
79.598mph
Dunlop  
[POOdle]Keith
 
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 7 +0.914
78.963mph
3 +1L
76.649mph
42 55.939
78.549mph
Dunlop  
Madd-RIP
 Team RVS
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#202950) GTC-65 4 +0.516
79.532mph
4 +14.562
76.189mph
42 55.892
78.615mph
Dunlop  
mr_oily
 Prodigy Racing
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 5 +0.758
79.185mph
5 +24.448
75.879mph
42 56.476
77.802mph
Dunlop  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 11 +1.638
77.949mph
6 (+2) +25.716
75.839mph
42 56.461
77.823mph
Dunlop  
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed
Austin-Healey 3000 (#450) GTC-65 13 +1.796
77.731mph
7 +26.085
75.828mph
42 56.601
77.631mph
Dunlop  
Steve Holmes
 Legends Racing
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#200864) GTC-65 9 +0.932
78.937mph
8 +31.322
75.665mph
42 55.899
78.605mph
Dunlop  
TinMan
 Team Oldie Racing
Austin-Healey 3000 (#453) GTC-65 16 +1.926
77.552mph
9 +35.693
75.530mph
42 56.759
77.414mph
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Austin-Healey 3000 (#473) GTC-65 10 +1.563
78.053mph
10 +36.071
75.518mph
42 56.969
77.129mph
Dunlop  
evert blommert
 
Alfa Romeo GTA (#202550) TC-65 D2 14 +1.907
77.578mph
11 +2L
74.949mph
41 56.519
77.743mph
Dunlop  
ossie
 
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#126309) GTC-65 8 +0.917
78.959mph
12 (+5) +5.793
74.769mph
41 56.361
77.961mph
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#200864) GTC-65 17 +2.183
77.202mph
13 +9.243
74.662mph
41 57.010
77.074mph
Dunlop  
Ade
 
Alfa Romeo GTA (#907) TC-65 D2 22 +3.584
75.348mph
14 +48.643
73.462mph
41 58.034
75.714mph
Dunlop  
Mr.BMW
 Prodigy Racing
Renault Alpine A110 (#179412) GTC-65 20 +2.785
76.394mph
15 +3L
72.872mph
40 57.377
76.581mph
Dunlop  
Sandor M
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Alfa Romeo GTA (#205502) TC-65 D2 19 +2.734
76.462mph
16 +2.318
72.802mph
40 57.699
76.153mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Prodigy Racing
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 18 +2.187
77.197mph
17 +4L
71.290mph
39 57.081
76.978mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Renault Alpine A110 (#200125) GTC-65 6 +0.899
78.984mph
18 +15L 28 55.847
78.679mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Lee.
 
Austin-Healey 3000 (#471) GTC-65 15 +1.914
77.569mph
19 +17L 26 57.829
75.982mph
unknown
Dunlop  
[POOdle]andyq
 
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 12 +1.772
77.764mph
20 +22L 21 56.791
77.371mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Tibernius
 Prodigy Racing
Renault Alpine A110 (#118125) GTC-65 24 +5.441
73.022mph
21 +30L 13 1:05.304
67.285mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Alfa Romeo GTA (#205502) TC-65 D2 21 +3.328
75.680mph
22 +33L 10 58.168
75.539mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#202950) GTC-65 3 +0.294
79.853mph
23 +36L 7 55.703
78.882mph
unknown
Dunlop  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
Renault Alpine A110 (#580) GTC-65 23 +3.922
74.913mph
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 53s

In the first lap at Paddock Hill, Ossie bumps against the rear of Steve, who then barely holds on to keep it on the road. Because of this Steve loses two places as it was early in the race. The gap before Paddock Hill was there, so there was no need for such close action.

  • ossie (0ssie)penalty — Rear end shunt — 2 places lost (plus 1 for penalty points)


Server replay time: 298s

There is a very close group of 4 cars, one including PRibeiro. He is followed by Ossie and Simon. Ossie rear ends PRibeiro who then goes a bit wide at Druids. Because of the contact between Ossie and PRibeiro, Ossie loses a lot of momentum and that's why Simon hits Ossie at the rear, sending him into a spin.
Ossie was punished because Simon spun him around, however, it looked like that was avoidable for Simon. He keeps steering towards the corner, instead of around Ossie. I think this seems like dangerous handling around an incident. But because this happened so suddenly before Simon, I can't see him prevent such a thing.

  • ossie (0ssie)penalty — Rear end shunt — 1 place lost (plus 1 for penalty points)


Server replay time: 535s

Ossie just touches the right rear of SBG. Both don't suffer any inconvinience and can continue in the same places they were.
Although nothing happened here, the previous two incidents with Ossie did cause problems, so Ossie should really be carefull in this kind of situations.

  • ossie (0ssie)caution — Rear end touch
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 691s

Ossie and Madd-Rip follow Tinman and head towards Paddock Hill. Madd is on the outside and Ossie on the inside when Ossie doesn't give Madd room which causes Madd to go off. There was much more room for Ossie to give by going more to the inside, than that there was room for Madd to keep a bit wide. Therefore this was avoidable for Ossie

  • ossie (0ssie)penalty — Ossie — 2 places lost (plus 1 for penalty points)
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 706s

Ossie follows Tinman into Druids. For the 2nd lap in a row there is a frozen car there. Ossie brakes too late again (heard by the hard revving under downshifts) and collects Tinman who spins and loses quite a few places. Ossie then waits for Tinman to continue and with that loses more places that Tinman.

  • ossie (0ssie)penalty — Rear end shunt — 2 places lost (plus 1 for penalty points)
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 1124s

Simon is caught out by the slightly early braking of PRibeiro. He then takes avoiding action and can steer around PRibeiro. Unfortunatly, he collects Steve who almost spins because of that. Simon waits to let both drivers by again and all three continue the way were.

  • Simon Gymerpenalty — Rear end shunt — 1 place lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 1205s

PRibeiro is being followed by Simon. The Alpine of Simon can brake much later than the Healey of PR. Simon misjudges PR's brakepoint and rear ends PR who then spins and loses a few places.

  • Simon Gymerpenalty — Rear end shunt — 2 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 1353s

Simon spins as he clips the grass. He ends up in the middle of the road with SBG and Tinman incoming. Both cars can't avoid Simon and collect him. Simon spun on his own and there was nothing he could have done to prevent this. The following cars were unlucky and didn't have a lot of space to go to. However, I didn't hear any car lift off or go easy and approach the situation with care until the very last moment.

Please approach accidents with care to avoid making them worse.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 2210s

Appeal

Appeal rejected, penalty stays the same:

Madd gets a better exit out of Graham Hill bend and can get his front wheel on the inside of Syd. Syd then steers in much earlier than normal, and actually has to straighten the wheel and steer in again. This looks like a blocking manouvre. On the other side, Madd didn't have his car enough on the inside to claim the line and should have lifted off and join behind Syd.
Both drivers did something wrong here. Syd blocked and Madd didn't have the line to claim the place. Corner later Madd got the position of Syd.
Therefore Syd doesn't get the maximum of 3 places lost, but 1 place lost.

  • Syd Drakepenalty — Blocking — 1 place lost (plus 1 for penalty points)

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« on: October 20, 2007, 04:25:33 PM +0100 »

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Practice: 20:15 (10 mins)
Qualifying: 20:25 (25 mins)
Race: 20:50 (43 laps = ~40 mins)

Track: Brands Hatch (Indy) v1.0 (download here)
Cars allowed: Alfa Romeo GTA, Renault Alpine A110, Austin Healey 3000, Ferrari 275 GTB
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2008, 04:23:15 AM +0000 »

Ooooh, the first race with an Alfa that I won't be driving one.
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2008, 12:26:45 PM +0000 »

Alfa or Alpine? Huh
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2008, 12:31:37 PM +0000 »

I think it will be between the Healey's and Ferrari's
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2008, 06:07:21 PM +0000 »

Ferrari for me.
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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2008, 12:35:32 AM +0000 »

I think it will be between the Healey's and Ferrari's

Don't under-estimate the Power of the FRENCH
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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2008, 10:55:30 AM +0000 »

I don't suppose someone can tell me why the RSS weather section is there on GTL races as well, since there's no weather in GTL? Huh
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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2008, 11:09:35 AM +0000 »

I don't suppose someone can tell me why the RSS weather section is there on GTL races as well, since there's no weather in GTL? Huh

In case you live near Brands Hatch, it's nice to know what the weather is going to do on Thursday. Wink
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2008, 11:36:34 AM +0000 »

I don't suppose someone can tell me why the RSS weather section is there on GTL races as well, since there's no weather in GTL? Huh

Because it's not worth the effort of turning it off where it's not needed. Tongue
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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2008, 11:42:51 AM +0000 »

I think it will be between the Healey's and Ferrari's

Don't under-estimate the Power of the FRENCH

Well, last time we had Ferrari and Renault in the same race (Buenos Aires), Ferrari beat them handily.
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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2008, 12:34:18 PM +0000 »

Well, last time we had Ferrari and Renault in the same race (Buenos Aires), Ferrari beat them handily.

Yes, but that was along track where it could use it's power. This is Indy where it will struggle with it's weight.
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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2008, 12:41:49 PM +0000 »

If this is the same Brands short track that was in TOCA, then it's a track I hate. It might be better with GTL cars though...
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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2008, 12:46:11 PM +0000 »

it is and you will
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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2008, 03:01:54 PM +0000 »

Plus the Fezza has a tendancy to eat its front tyres, a la Buenos Aires.
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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2008, 12:15:56 AM +0000 »

French reliability for me  laugh - The Alpine should handle pretty well around the Indy circuit - with a good set up... Undecided
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