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  • Endurance D1 S1R2 - Magny C.: July 31, 2005
July 31, 2005, 09:39:50 PM +0100 - Magny-Cours (GP) - UKGTR GTR1 Endurance Season 1 Division 1
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Mark Harrison
 Kerb Crawlers
Lister Storm GT1 4 +1.115
93.796mph
1 1:00:10.034
88.258mph
32 1:46.784
93.242mph
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Ze insane Penguins
Saleen S7-R GT1 2 +0.633
94.224mph
2 +0.683
88.242mph
32 1:46.282
93.682mph
Dunlop  
Mike Wrightson
 dE Racing
Dodge Viper GTS-R GT1 6 +2.733
92.388mph
3 +9.449
88.028mph
32 1:48.550
91.725mph
Dunlop  
Matjaz Plotajs
 dE Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 7 +3.927
91.376mph
4 +15.066
87.891mph
32 1:50.037
90.485mph
Dunlop  
Muorali
 
Lister Storm GT1 1 1:45.038
94.792mph
5 +30.878
87.510mph
32 1:46.863
93.173mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 3 +0.869
94.014mph
6 +41.863
87.247mph
32 1:46.329
93.641mph
Michelin  
fozzmeister
 The Crafty Butchers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 10 +5.579
90.011mph
7 +1L
85.243mph
31 1:53.650
87.609mph
Dunlop  
Bernie Lomax
 Ze insane Penguins
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 17 +11.394
85.515mph
8 +47.936
84.130mph
31 1:53.623
87.630mph
Dunlop  
PaulW
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 12 +7.571
88.419mph
9 +1:34.461
83.076mph
31 1:55.812
85.973mph
Pirelli  
CP
 
Ferrari 575 GTC GT1 9 +4.648
90.775mph
10 +2L
81.666mph
30 1:52.751
88.307mph
Pirelli  
Don
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 14 +10.665
86.054mph
11 +3L
79.805mph
29 1:55.518
86.192mph
Pirelli  
Doug Greer
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 15 +10.681
86.042mph
12 +14.557
79.485mph
29 1:54.559
86.914mph
Dunlop  
[ZiP]Tyf
 Ze insane Penguins
Porsche 996 GT2 Bi-turbo NGT 16 +11.051
85.768mph
13 +18.282
79.404mph
29 1:54.994
86.585mph
Pirelli  
Jamera
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 20 +17.730
81.102mph
14 +5L
74.082mph
27 2:00.144
82.873mph
Dunlop  
Glen VW
 Rookie Motorsports
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 18 +13.373
84.086mph
15 +14L 18 1:57.024
85.083mph
unknown
Pirelli  
rik foster
  Team Backwards Racing
Lister Storm GT1 8 +4.151
91.188mph
16 +16L 16 1:50.083
90.447mph
unknown
Dunlop  
silver53
 Ze insane Penguins
SEAT Toledo GT G2 19 +14.410
83.356mph
17 +17L 15 1:57.302
84.881mph
accident
Dunlop  
cb95amc
 
Lister Storm GT1 13 +9.305
87.078mph
18 +21L 11 1:52.084
88.833mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 5 +2.273
92.784mph
19 +25L 7 1:48.786
91.526mph
unknown
Michelin  
Brian Needham
 
Mosler MT900R NGT 11 +7.030
88.845mph
20 +32L
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 183s

As Muorali comes up to the final chicane to lead the field to the rolling start, he uses too much of the first, right hand curb, clips one of the solid bollards and spins. As he does so he dislodges one of the bollards on the second, left hand curb and deposits it on the track.

TrueTom has to take over leading the pack but goes far too early.

Behind, Mark Harrison runs into the "invisible" bollard (it's clearly visible on the replay, although I don't know under what conditions it would've been visible to drivers during the event) and comes to an abrupt halt, collecting Paul968 who is right behind and causing a fair bit more chaos and confusion in the ranks.

Obviously the invisible bollards are a well documented problem and there's not a lot we can do about them.

  • Muoraliadvice — stay off the curbs on the pace lap
  • Truetom (truetom)caution — premature acceleration on the pace lap


Server replay time: 235s

Rik Foster has lost it under braking into Adelaide. He spin turns to the outside, away from oncoming traffic. Rik starts to move off again but hasn't moved more than a few feet when Colin P, who has missed the apex, clips the front of him. Neither car is seriously inconvenienced but it does cause some confusion in the ranks.


Server replay time: 243s

During the previous incident with Rik and Colin, Paul968 has outbraked himself and trundled round the outside of Rik.

In the confusion Mike Wrightson winds up alongside Paul968; neither can see each other and Mike moves across, making contact with Paul and spinning off.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 287s

Shark and Muorali and in close proximity coming out of Chateau d'Eau, and the former stays wide through the kink - too wide, in fact, and he runs onto the grass, sailing down out of control towards Lycee, narrowly missing TrueTom before hitting the tyres.


Server replay time: 1468s

Fozz is coming round to lap Gerald in the Toledo; Shark laps both, flying through the middle into Grande Courbe. Fozz turns in, thinking he has cleared Gerald, but he hasn't and there is light contact.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 1892s

Shark is lapping Rik Foster, who applies too much throttle as he accelerates down the start straight and spins, collecting Shark.

Shark spin turns but then pushes Rik out of the way to get going again. This is rather silly as he could easily have done additional aero damage to his front end.

  • Simon Gymer (Shark)caution — drive round other cars not through them, even after a collision

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« Reply #45 on: August 01, 2005, 10:18:21 AM +0100 »

Tyres temps mean nothing in the wet. My front never got much above 55 and the rears were about 70 after a while. It's more about the feel and just having grip of some sort rather than aquaplanning a lot.

The Lambo is one of the best cars in the wet as it has lots of natural traction under acceleration which is one of the smaller reasons I chose it before the season began as there was likely to be some wet weather so it would stand my in good stead in those races.

I don't think you should be allowed to change cars during an event (I thought there was a rule to that effect although it might be UKGPL).
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« Reply #46 on: August 01, 2005, 10:21:32 AM +0100 »

I understood that, once you'd joined Q2, jumping out and getting another car was not allowed. Or at the very least, a bit cheeky.

My tyres were icy compared to you guys- 30ish front, 40ish rear all night. After one spin I managed to get the rears up to 50 something though which was very exciting Wink
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« Reply #47 on: August 01, 2005, 10:38:57 AM +0100 »

I understood that, once you'd joined Q2, jumping out and getting another car was not allowed. Or at the very least, a bit cheeky.

My tyres were icy compared to you guys- 30ish front, 40ish rear all night. After one spin I managed to get the rears up to 50 something though which was very exciting Wink

Yeh, mine were like that too, We are both NGT so its probably semi-normal.
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« Reply #48 on: August 01, 2005, 12:08:36 PM +0100 »

Well, my race was extremely strange.  It's the most eventful race I'd been involved with in quite a while - but knowing it was an 'endurance' race (an hour, yeah right Wink ) I endeavoured to take it easy, after what happened two weeks ago in the wet.

Was pleased to see a full grid this time out, and set about qualifying having done....yep, you guessed it....no wet weather running since two weeks ago, which was the first time ever.  Sensible, I know Roll Eyes but still.  At least I had qualifying to get acclimatized this time.  Hardly went off, to my great surprise, in qualifying, and wound up P4, behind some super-fast laps.

A strange thing happened on the formation lap, just coming out of the final chicane - I think I hit something invisible, because I slowed all of a sudden and then was hit from behind.  So I lost 3 seconds or so on the start.  No big deal, after Rik F spun at the hairpin and I passed Matjaz easily under acceleration, I was in the position I was before.

Took it very easy on lap 1 this time, but coming down to the hairpin, Shark had the moment described above.  It was a sudden horrible realization that Truetom was directly in the flight path of the aquaplaning Lambo....thankfully it *just* missed.  It didn't miss by a lot though!  Very, very lucky indeed.

Muorali gave it too much throttle a couple of laps later, and so it was me and Truetom up front.  I had no idea at this stage about fuel strategies, but I was coming to realize, rather quickly, that I could have gone the full race on the single tank of fuel.  But I'd only taken 60 litres.  Cursing my lack of preparation, I wondered whether my soft wets would last the whole race.

I decided I'd make the decision when I pitted, which was just after half-distance.  In the meantime, I set about harassing Tom.  I didn't want to risk anything, so just made myself as big as possible in his mirrors.  I was still finding the limits to an extent....twice I went straight on at the final corner, using the tarmac runoff to good effect, and once I went right across the Nurburgring chicane.  But Tom didn't make any kind of a mistake, great driving.  A little half-spin at the last corner told me it was time to pit.

Soo....what state are the tyres in?  A couple of 7's, a couple of 8's....hmmm....decisions, decisions....I'll gamble and not change them.  Forgot to turn the engine back on after refuelling, so that cost me a couple of seconds Roll Eyes but it was only a 20 second stop anyway.

I wasn't sure whether anyone else had realized you could go the whole race, either, so I prayed for the next couple of laps that they hadn't.  Sure enough, Tom pits, and I gain 20 seconds on him....he must have changed tyres.  Muorali pits a couple of laps later, putting me 2nd.  Mike Wrightson a few seconds in front.  It's looking rather good....

But then, coming up to lap Jamera, he gives me a love tap coming out of the hairpin, spinning me round.  Grrrr.  13 seconds behind Mike, with about as many laps to go, and all of a sudden I'm gonna have to push hard.  Next lap, 11.3.  Then, 8.4.  Oh no....locked a brake and straight on at the final corner, costing me at least two seconds.  Gap 9.3.  10 laps to go.

I'm catching at 2 seconds a lap though, and sure enough, 5 laps later, I'm right on Mike's tail.  A backmarker in front, Mike struggles to deal with him....and skews to the right out of Adelaide.  OK, I lead by 20 seconds, the race is mine.

So, what do I do?  Take it easy, eeeeaaassyy....coming up to lap a car in the 180, the back comes round for seemingly no reason!  What?!  Lost 12 seconds, and saw Tom had gone into 2nd.  5.3 seconds in front, with 3 laps to go!

Okay, calm, calm....it's still yours Mark.  Next lap, 3.5.  2 to go.  Still calm.  Got backmarkers though....out of the way!!  2.4 coming into the last lap, and I think it's mine again.  Into the 180 once more, I leave the braking very late trying to clear a backmarker, and run right out wide....Tom is right on me now though!  Half a lap to go, don't make a mistake, don't you DARE make a mistake....nice run through Imola and Chateau d'Eau, and braking into the Lycee I'm still in front.  Out of the chicane, and the end of the most nerve-wracking half a lap in recent memory....YEAH!!!

As you can see, I made bloody hard work of it.

BTW, well done to Matjaz for a brilliant drive Smiley
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« Reply #49 on: August 01, 2005, 12:54:13 PM +0100 »

Please click on the 'Next Page' button to continue reading the novel by Mark Harrison.  Cheesy

Just joking m8, well done! Smiley

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« Reply #50 on: August 01, 2005, 01:51:27 PM +0100 »

LOL.

Excellent report Mark. I particularly liked the bit about the flight path of my aquaplaning Lambo.

The fuel thing was interesting. I had no intention of not stopping even in the wet i didn't think the Lambo would be even close to finishing with a full tank. Not sure now though, but I dont really want to do another hour race in the rain at Magny to find out.  Tongue Cheesy
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« Reply #51 on: August 01, 2005, 07:11:15 PM +0100 »

Results are up here:

http://www.ukgtr.org/lm2-report.php?group=10101&event=11
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« Reply #52 on: August 01, 2005, 07:17:55 PM +0100 »

I was on a no-stop strategy. Filled up Saleen to 100 litres. Had to pit to repair damage and decided to change tires btw from hard to soft (or rain to monsoon). When I finished I had about 10 litres of fuel left. So in rain Saleen can go no-stop if your tires endure. Had rev limiter on 7000, forgot to change, so with lower I would have more fuel left.
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« Reply #53 on: August 01, 2005, 07:19:26 PM +0100 »

Thanks Aagramn.
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« Reply #54 on: August 01, 2005, 07:33:04 PM +0100 »

Well, was going along OK, considering that was the first time I had raced in such conditions......
On Lap15 I entered a corner a little too fat (the fast uphill chicane) and ran a little wide onto the grass.......As I tried to make my way back to the track I somehow managed to ground my car on the grass - couldn't move backward or forward not matter what I did....eventually gave up and quit back to the pits.
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Oh well....here is hoping for better weather next time - can you imagine monsoon weather at Enna Huh??

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« Reply #55 on: August 02, 2005, 02:28:40 PM +0100 »

Shark - do the cars really aquaplane? Because i'm pretty sure they don't, and i've heard from good sources they just don't in the game.....
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« Reply #56 on: August 02, 2005, 02:30:04 PM +0100 »

I would love to see the time of the race extended to 90 mins - 60 mins of 'endurance' racing is just too short - it goes very very quickly. Anyone else would like to see it extended to 90 mins? (most GTR leagues I know run at 90 also)
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« Reply #57 on: August 02, 2005, 02:34:01 PM +0100 »

I would love to see the time of the race extended to 90 mins - 60 mins of 'endurance' racing is just too short - it goes very very quickly. Anyone else would like to see it extended to 90 mins? (most GTR leagues I know run at 90 also)

Gets my vote, but I think as we were setup for 60, we should get far greater than 50% wanting to go for 90
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« Reply #58 on: August 02, 2005, 04:22:08 PM +0100 »

I would love to see the time of the race extended to 90 mins - 60 mins of 'endurance' racing is just too short - it goes very very quickly. Anyone else would like to see it extended to 90 mins? (most GTR leagues I know run at 90 also)

Yup.
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« Reply #59 on: August 02, 2005, 05:01:34 PM +0100 »

I think I could make 90 min. Would be more of an anticipation for a race, too. And more rewarding (feeling) for a winner.
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