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April 17, 2008, 08:54:23 PM +0100 - Silverstone (GP 1987-90) - UKGTL Season 5 Season 5 GT Classics Cup
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Chevrolet Corvette 1969 (#200107) GTC-TC-76 1 1:32.496
113.995mph
1 39:40.112
110.752mph
25 1:33.347
112.956mph
Dunlop  
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed
BMW CSL Schnitzer (#870) GTC-TC-76 4 +1.109
112.645mph
2 +12.987
110.151mph
25 1:33.904
112.286mph
Dunlop  
ASSASSINO
 Ghostspeed
Chevrolet Corvette 1969 (#85) GTC-TC-76 3 +0.954
112.832mph
3 +13.137
110.144mph
25 1:34.449
111.638mph
Avon  
Mike Hammer
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 906 (#30) GTC-TC-76 6 +1.478
112.202mph
4 +13.553
110.125mph
25 1:34.471
111.612mph
Michelin  
Steve Holmes
 Legends Racing
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#200870) GTC-TC-76 5 +1.269
112.453mph
5 +18.756
109.886mph
25 1:34.500
111.578mph
Avon  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 10 +1.968
111.620mph
6 +32.212
109.273mph
25 1:34.627
111.428mph
Avon  
stnasky
 Team RVS
Chevrolet Corvette 1969 (#85) GTC-TC-76 2 +0.825
112.988mph
7 +51.670
108.399mph
25 1:34.602
111.458mph
Avon  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Chevrolet Corvette 1969 (#85) GTC-TC-76 9 +1.874
111.732mph
8 +1:01.721
107.953mph
25 1:35.232
110.720mph
Avon  
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 12 +2.551
110.936mph
9 +1:02.809
107.905mph
25 1:35.818
110.043mph
Avon  
Bernie Lomax
 Legends Racing
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#200870) GTC-TC-76 11 +1.986
111.599mph
10 +1:04.177
107.844mph
25 1:35.131
110.838mph
Avon  
will16v
 Prodigy Racing
Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#205711) GTC-TC-76 11 +1:23.811
106.985mph
25 1:36.155
109.657mph
Goodyear  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 RSR 2.8 (#200873) GTC-TC-76 18 +5.002
108.147mph
12 +1:28.462
106.783mph
25 1:36.134
109.681mph
Goodyear  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#205323) GTC-TC-76 14 +3.644
109.675mph
13 +1L
106.194mph
24 1:36.029
109.801mph
Goodyear  
JPS
 
BMW CSL Alpina (#87) GTC-TC-76 17 +4.944
108.211mph
14 +5.406
105.953mph
24 1:37.954
107.644mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Prodigy Racing
Porsche 906 (#205705) GTC-TC-76 15 +4.047
109.217mph
15 +27.963
104.962mph
24 1:37.185
108.495mph
Michelin  
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#201455) GTC-TC-76 13 +2.866
110.569mph
16 +30.786
104.839mph
24 1:35.566
110.333mph
Avon  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 906 (#30) GTC-TC-76 16 +4.819
108.350mph
17 +51.080
103.965mph
24 1:38.150
107.429mph
Michelin  
Sandor M
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Porsche 906 (#205503) GTC-TC-76 19 +5.605
107.482mph
18 +1:02.452
103.482mph
24 1:37.938
107.661mph
Michelin  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Porsche 906 (#205503) GTC-TC-76 21 +8.063
104.855mph
19 +1:36.175
102.074mph
24 1:39.637
105.825mph
Michelin  
Mr.BMW
 Prodigy Racing
BMW CSL Schnitzer (#205795) GTC-TC-76 20 +6.531
106.477mph
20 +12L 13 1:39.743
105.713mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Tibernius
 Prodigy Racing
Porsche 906 (#205705) GTC-TC-76 22 +8.372
104.534mph
21 +18L 7 1:41.775
103.602mph
unknown
Michelin  
mr_oily
 Prodigy Racing
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#205722) GTC-TC-76 8 +1.715
111.920mph
22 +24L 1 2:25.486
72.475mph
unknown
Avon  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Chevrolet Corvette 1969 (#85) GTC-TC-76 7 +1.629
112.022mph
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Avon  

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Server replay time: 316s

JPS starts wide and cuts across, and slams, both Sandow and Will into Stowe. They had effectively passed him and are in front by this point. JPS explains that he didn't see them due to technical problems and this is exactly how it looks, so we have no reason to doubt him.

We would expect drivers to end their race if they have any inkling of technical issues that could affect others. However, this was JPS's first GTL race and he was simply not aware that this was the case. Therefore no penalty is warranted.

  • JPS (JPS1)advice — Leave the race if you realise you are experiencing technical problems.

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« Reply #45 on: April 18, 2008, 09:18:34 AM +0100 »

Didnt really get into that track last night, found it pretty boring on the whole but enjoyed some good little scraps for short spells of the race, notably with Ginsters, Ade and Will at different times.

Dont know what the rest of the field was doing but i had a 20 second gap to the car behind me by lap 13 of 25 ! Shocked Huh

Some oddly suspect driving by a few individuals again, i couldnt believe that with a track wide enough to get 3 buses side by side, certain people still felt the need to bash their way through or try to overtake at mid apex  Roll Eyes The bully drivers tended to be in the yank tank or capris from what i saw in my lowly qually slot (17th?), although i wasnt on the receiving end i still tutt-tutted as i watched incidents around me and found myself in 10th spot by lap 3 ! Tongue

Enjoyed a good several lap battle with Ginsters,  Cool though it was only a matter of time before his horses pulled him clear on this power circuit.

On about lap 19 whilst 11th? i got clumped mid apex on one of the fastest corners by someone who, looking at his erratic driving, i was amazed was ahead of me!?, and lost about 20-25 seconds and a place to a following Will (who had been 20secs behind!). Not seen replay yet so not going to condemn anyone but the same driver binned it and left the race about a lap later  Lips Sealed
I chased hard after Will again to get my place back but he kept his cool and i out-braked myself at the final corner with 2 laps remaining. Would have been a good fight in two 911's to the wire if not for that!..well done Will  Smiley

Not really a fan of that layout but you have to have all sorts of circuits that suit different cars throughout the season so not complaining. angel
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« Reply #46 on: April 18, 2008, 11:12:14 AM +0100 »

Bit of a missed opportunity for me there, just developed a complete mental block on the final complex of corners early in the race and tensed up every time I approached it and messed it up big time for lap after lap.  Threw away a good opportunity to be fighting for 2nd come the end, as otherwise I'd have been able to hang onto the back of Prib and Assassino and attack them (along with Mike) at the end - I had so much grip left, the car was sticking just as well at the end as at the start.

Weird too, I'd even said on my team forum after testing just how much fun the final corner was, same in qually, but in the race I think I got it slightly wrong early on and then that was that, I tensed up every time and threw away the great speed I had on the rest of the lap with a missed apex or running off track at the final bend.  Took me until around lap 20 to start relaxing and getting it right again, too late by then, I'd thrown away a better result by constantly letting other cars through entering the pit straight.  Mind management needed!   Sad

However, it did make for some superb close racing, particularly with Geoffers.  Two consecutive laps we were side by side round the bottom of the circuit, very enjoyable racing with space left by both of us.  Cool  After gaffing again at my bogey corner Geoffers got away and then I very slowly worked on closing the 5 second gap by a few tenths per lap on average but I wasn't going to catch him.  Damn shame when he ran wide, didn't even know it was the last lap, that is so frustrating, I could feel the pain.  Felt unfair taking the place but after my multitude of mistakes I was glad to get 5th.   Smiley
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« Reply #47 on: April 18, 2008, 12:15:30 PM +0100 »

My first GTL finish in an evening league this year.  With Virgin Media’s poor evening performance, the only place I’ve been able to race has been in an early Sunday morning league.  My new ISP’s ping is great - it’s brilliant being able to race close with another car.

Qualified 15th which was pleasing but I made my usual start and ran too wide in the T2 traffic jam trying to avoid a shunt.  Rejoined in last place, as SBG said its fun to drive back through the field.  I think he joined, after his off, just in front of me and I chased but to no avail – Yank Tank power won out.  Had quite a few laps battle with Mooijekind which was very close at times each trying to take advantage at our best corners.  Eventually I managed to pull away and then had a lonely drive into 16th.  Most enjoyable return.

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« Reply #48 on: April 18, 2008, 12:36:33 PM +0100 »

My first GTL finish in an evening league this year.  With Virgin Media’s poor evening performance, the only place I’ve been able to race has been in an early Sunday morning league.  My new ISP’s ping is great - it’s brilliant being able to race close with another car.

Qualified 15th which was pleasing but I made my usual start and ran too wide in the T2 traffic jam trying to avoid a shunt.  Rejoined in last place, as SBG said its fun to drive back through the field.  I think he joined, after his off, just in front of me and I chased but to no avail – Yank Tank power won out.  Had quite a few laps battle with Mooijekind which was very close at times each trying to take advantage at our best corners.  Eventually I managed to pull away and then had a lonely drive into 16th.  Most enjoyable return.

Bill

Hi Bill, can I get some details of that league please (pm me if you want)
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« Reply #49 on: April 18, 2008, 12:56:38 PM +0100 »

A bit annoyed with myself for losing 5th on the last lap but otherwise an enjoyable race.

Got a good start (unusual for me) & made up 3 places by Copse. Ran a bit wide at Becketts but then so did a few others. Exchanged places with Stnasky's Corvette a couple of times on the opening laps, he came past on the straights but I retook him on the corners  Wink. Then settled into a great dice with Steve Holmes which saw us side by side for a considerable part of 2 laps. He got ahead twice but as he said made a mess of Woodcote each time & handed 4th place back to me.

My 4th place wasn't too comfortable though as Mike Hammer's 906 was all over me through the bends although my Capri could open the gap on the straights. I thought as long as I can get the bends right he will have a struggle getting past. I did OK for about 5 or 6 laps but ran wide at Club & left the door open.

Gradually the 906 eased away until he caught Assassino & PR. Their dice seemed to slow them up & I started to catch them. I was still 2s behind with a lap to go & thought if I can put in a good last lap & one of them makes a slight mistake I could gain a place. NO, I tried too hard & ran too wide at Club, got on the grass & spun  :'(. Fortunate only to lose one place to Steve & finish 6th.

Congrats to the podium.

Cya all next week at Nurby
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« Reply #50 on: April 18, 2008, 02:02:59 PM +0100 »

Let me add my name to the list of people who hate this track. It's horrible. I'd much rather race at the modern Silverstone than this one. Sad
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« Reply #51 on: April 18, 2008, 03:20:14 PM +0100 »

Hate is such a strong word Smiley We'd much rather hear why you gents hate this/that so we can determine what you fancy. Constructive criticism is always welcome.
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« Reply #52 on: April 18, 2008, 03:47:14 PM +0100 »

I loved the track Grin. Finally a track at which the Vette can stretch it's legs. It's wide, flowing and a fast track. Much better than some Mickey Mouse tracks Cheesy.
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« Reply #53 on: April 18, 2008, 03:50:10 PM +0100 »

I loved the track Grin. Finally a track at which the Vette can stretch it's legs. It's wide, flowing and a fast track. Much better than some Mickey Mouse tracks Cheesy.
Agree for all those reasons. Bout time we had a track that you can go flat out on.
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« Reply #54 on: April 18, 2008, 03:53:50 PM +0100 »

for exactly what JR just said, i dont have a problem with using this sort of track. We have to have the variety to suit all car types and classes.
My 911 was easily outgunned last night on this track but i cant expect to have it always suiting a porker. It would have been easy for me to jump into a vette or Capri if i wanted but i preferred sticking to my fave come hell or high water  Tongue
This silverstone config favours the horsepower, the top 10 confirms that but next race the tables may be turned, so rough with the smooth and all that  Wink

If anything, the only thing that made my race a bit duller was the fact that everyone from 12th? down was so far behind by mid race  Huh..can only presume they stopped for a punch up/cup of tea ! Grin
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« Reply #55 on: April 18, 2008, 04:03:51 PM +0100 »

I rather liked the track, not a huge fan of fiddly slow corners, and dislike chicanes, so it was good.  But, a lot of the corners are almost the same, bang down a gear or 2 and try to find the apex on the map, so I can understand why some might not like it.  Like MJ says, variety is the key.
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« Reply #56 on: April 18, 2008, 04:43:04 PM +0100 »

Hate is such a strong word Smiley We'd much rather hear why you gents hate this/that so we can determine what you fancy. Constructive criticism is always welcome.

It didn't have enough corners! Smiley

I don't mind the occasional race on this kind of track but if it was a season of these... Shocked
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« Reply #57 on: April 18, 2008, 05:58:40 PM +0100 »

This version is what racing is all about an out and out power circuit - none of those stupid 1st gear corners or chicanes.  What we need is a longer race to give the 906 a chance to exploit it's low fuel consumption and tyre wear.  More Sir, More.

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« Reply #58 on: April 18, 2008, 07:12:48 PM +0100 »

This version is what racing is all about an out and out power circuit - none of those stupid 1st gear corners or chicanes.  What we need is a longer race to give the 906 a chance to exploit it's low fuel consumption and tyre wear.  More Sir, More.

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« Reply #59 on: April 18, 2008, 08:16:59 PM +0100 »

Had a rather slick race with just a few minor mistakes from my side and one incident after a few laps. 
Have to see the replay before further comment.
Battled with Bill for a few laps and when i made a mistake it was just getting to the finish.

Again no points but made it to the finish which is almost a victory to me Grin

Can't wait for the next race

Nice race tho.. (and grats to to my teammate  Wink )
lol , it was a close race and you ended just one place behind me  laugh
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