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August 21, 2008, 08:57:25 PM +0100 - Oulton Park (Island) - UKGTL Season 6 Season 6 GT Classics Cup
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Steve Holmes
 Legends Racing
Ford Mustang (#892) TC-65 D2 3 +0.055
80.829mph
1 38:10.386
79.442mph
23 1:38.292
80.485mph
Dunlop  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Lotus Cortina (#955) TC-65 D2 1 1:37.818
80.875mph
2 +1.161
79.402mph
23 1:37.948
80.767mph
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Falcon (#872) TC-65 D2 2 +0.032
80.848mph
3 +4.553
79.285mph
23 1:38.329
80.454mph
Dunlop  
GardO
 
Ford Mustang (#896) TC-65 D2 8 +1.071
79.999mph
4 +16.520
78.873mph
23 1:38.972
79.932mph
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Ford Falcon (#200803) TC-65 D2 9 +1.112
79.966mph
5 +18.522
78.805mph
23 1:38.714
80.141mph
Dunlop  
baracus250gt
 Ghostspeed
Ford Mustang (#896) TC-65 D2 4 +0.064
80.822mph
6 +20.417
78.740mph
23 1:38.302
80.477mph
Dunlop  
mr_oily
 Prodigy Racing
Lotus Cortina (#205702) TC-65 D2 6 +0.304
80.624mph
7 +28.542
78.464mph
23 1:38.233
80.533mph
Dunlop  
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed
Lotus Cortina (#924) TC-65 D2 11 +1.240
79.862mph
8 +28.933
78.451mph
23 1:39.455
79.544mph
Dunlop  
stnasky
 Team RVS
Ford Mustang (#890) TC-65 D2 5 +0.296
80.631mph
9 +29.655
78.427mph
23 1:38.708
80.146mph
Dunlop  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Falcon (#825) TC-65 D2 10 +1.140
79.943mph
10 +1:10.569
77.068mph
23 1:39.203
79.746mph
Dunlop  
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing
Lotus Cortina (#201421) TC-65 D2 16 +2.033
79.228mph
11 +1:19.036
76.792mph
23 1:40.280
78.889mph
Dunlop  
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus Cortina (#913) TC-65 D2 12 +1.577
79.592mph
12 +1:19.226
76.786mph
23 1:39.724
79.329mph
Dunlop  
evert blommert
 Dutch Turtles
Lotus Cortina (#961) TC-65 D2 18 +2.468
78.884mph
13 (+2) +1:35.460
76.264mph
23 1:40.780
78.498mph
Dunlop  
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
Lotus Cortina (#205702) TC-65 D2 14 +1.705
79.489mph
14 +1:55.243
75.636mph
23 1:40.282
78.888mph
Dunlop  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Lotus Cortina (#201421) TC-65 D2 21 +3.749
77.890mph
15 +1L
75.551mph
22 1:41.325
78.076mph
Dunlop  
API
 
Lotus Cortina (#924) TC-65 D2 24 +5.106
76.863mph
16 +21.970
74.837mph
22 1:42.137
77.455mph
Dunlop  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Ford Falcon (#872) TC-65 D2 23 +4.752
77.128mph
17 +26.482
74.693mph
22 1:42.807
76.950mph
Dunlop  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Ford Falcon (#825) TC-65 D2 20 +3.574
78.024mph
18 22 1:39.732
79.323mph
suspension
Dunlop  
Spadowski
 
Ford Mustang (#890) TC-65 D2 26 +6.395
75.912mph
19 +2L
71.479mph
21 1:42.242
77.375mph
Dunlop  
jimmer
 
Ford Falcon (#872) TC-65 D2 25 +5.914
76.264mph
20 +24.818
70.724mph
21 1:44.890
75.422mph
Dunlop  
Sandor M
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Ford Falcon (#872) TC-65 D2 15 +1.849
79.374mph
21 +4L 19 1:40.972
78.349mph
suspension
Dunlop  
Tibernius
 Prodigy Racing
Ford Mustang (#809) TC-65 D2 19 +3.009
78.461mph
22 +10L 13 1:43.244
76.624mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Prodigy Racing
Ford Mustang (#892) TC-65 D2 17 +2.071
79.198mph
23 +13L 10 1:41.084
78.262mph
unknown
Dunlop  
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing
Lotus Cortina (#205266) TC-65 D2 13 +1.608
79.567mph
24 +15L 8 1:41.293
78.100mph
unknown
Dunlop  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Mustang (#809) TC-65 D2 22 +4.277
77.487mph
25 +18L 5 1:43.106
76.727mph
suspension
Dunlop  
phspok
 
Ford Falcon (#872) TC-65 D2 7 +0.887
80.148mph
+23L 0 ---
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unknown
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 206s

Spanner passes Sandor at the hairpin but the Falcons power sees Sandor back infront by the braking zone for the chicane.
Sandor does move back over to the racing line a little too soon and almost imediately has to hit the brakes for the turn. This gave Spanner little or no time to react and the inevitable rear contact occured.
This incident would have been avoidable if Sandor had stayed on the line he had passed on and not moved back over to the racing line directly in front of Spanner.


Server replay time: 862s

Dan is lapping Jimmer (racepace) and catches him on the aproach to the hairpin. Dan goes to the right to make the pass but Jimmer seems to lose the rear end of his car slightly and this sends him to the right also.
Just an unfortunate event that ended with no harm done to either party.

Racing incident.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 897s

Sandor, in a falcon, was much faster down the s/f straight than Legzy but did not gain quite enough on him to attempt a pass before T1. Sandor seemed to realise this a little late and hit the brakes in an attempt to avoid contact, but he had left it a little late and clipped the rear quarter of Legzy's car.
No damage was done and Legzy kept his place.


Server replay time: 1047s

Not quite as simple this one.
Again Sandor is faster aproaching the chicane and brakes slightly later to get on the inside of Legzy. Whilst this move was possibly not the ideal place to try an outbraking manouver in a Falcon vs a 'Tina, Sandor does actually get around 1/3 overlap legitimately and therefore has every right to be where he was.
Legzy actually moves right, almost blocking Sandors move, a fair bit earlier than he has done on previous or following laps and turns onto the apex normally leaving no room whatsoever for Sandor and forcing him into the tyre wall.
**NOTE**
Passing and being passed appoaching corners, the critical moment is the turn in point, not the braking point. The earlier the overlap the better, of course, but if the intent is telegraphed with an early move and a reasonable overlap achieved before the lead car gets to the point where it has to turn in, that should be good enough in a gentlemanly racing environment.

  • Legzycaution — Closing the door on a car with overlap
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 1344s

Racepace is being lapped by Ade (who gives him a nudge in the chicane). Rp accelerates away normally and starts to move to the right when he realises Ade is still there, so he straightens up and lifts slightly to allow the slower accelerating car through.
This move caught Syd a little by suprise and he tagged the rear of RP's car sending him onto the grass. Syd then moves wide and accelerates away but unfortunately gets a wheel on the grass which sends him into a spin. Both Geoffers and RP are close and have to slow substantially to avoid Syd's car.
Evert is aproaching up the hill under full acceleration but shows no sign (no lift/braking etc) of any awareness or caution to the incident ahead and runs full tilt into the back of RP.

Racepace, whilst trying to do the right thing by assisting a lapping car through, caused a few other problems with his actions. ONLY lift off when it is safe to do so....unfortunately, the lapping car will just have to wait :)

Upto then I would consider this a racing incident.
However Evert's lack of caution must be penalised...regardless of who may be the initial cause of an incident you CANNOT aproach an incident under full throttle causing additional mayhem.

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« on: July 19, 2008, 10:22:15 AM +0100 »

All members welcome.

Practice: 20:15 (10 mins)
Qualifying: 20:25 (25 mins)
Race: 20:50 (23 laps = ~40 mins)

Track: Oulton Park v1.0 (download here)


Cars allowed: Lotus Cortina, Ford Falcon and Ford Mustang.
Time of Day Setting: 10:00
Start: STANDING

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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2008, 08:52:15 PM +0100 »

Having seemingly sorted my issues out (I can connect to servers now), and my GRC league running a series I have no interest in, I will hopefully be able to make it for this! I've still got to install the skins and stuff... But my attempt to connect to a server was successful, so I'm hopeful.
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2008, 09:07:04 PM +0100 »

Having seemingly sorted my issues out (I can connect to servers now), and my GRC league running a series I have no interest in, I will hopefully be able to make it for this! I've still got to install the skins and stuff... But my attempt to connect to a server was successful, so I'm hopeful.

Have you tried it with the UKGTL server? Just wondering if it's that server in particular it was having problems with.
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2008, 06:41:01 AM +0100 »

I will before the day obviously, but before I couldn't connect to ANY server. I have connected to a server now.

Will try and get stuff sorted over the weekend. It's ridiculously hot here though, so to sit at my racing system is like sitting in an oven. Thankfully the weather breaks after the weekend.
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2008, 11:38:19 AM +0100 »

A word of advice
Never write to a British forum in British summertime about how wonderful the weather is in your part of the planet.
Unless you don't want to make friends.  Wink
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2008, 10:53:59 PM +0100 »

hehehe Well I don't consider this weather nice AT ALL. My apartment, despite being north facing, may very well be over the mouth of Hell given how hot it gets here.

I hate hot weather. So I am not bragging. Moaning, yes. Not braggin:) Though wait until it gets to the winter and hits -50 here. Yes, that's -50 celcius. I think it was actually -54 to be precise. That was with windchill. You step outside, and you literally have ice in your nose within a couple of minutes. Hit that on two days last year. Winter routinely spends weeks in the -20's.

So I get it way too hot (it's hitting 37 on Monday here), but I love love LOVE the cold. So when you're all sitting there around -2, I'll be sitting in a country that's colder than your average freezer. Grin On the plus side with the ridiculously hot apartment, in the winter, we don't even need the heating on.

Anyway this is completely off topic now, so to get it back, I will hopefully get to test the server at least this weekend so I know if I'm making it. I swear, if it goes wrong again, I am deleting GTL and never touching it again. Game broke my heart once. Not having it do it again! And I may still join the GTR2 league too if they'll have me. I've never raced GTR2 online. GPL, NR2003 and RF are the main ones I've raced online.
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2008, 12:17:12 PM +0100 »

Looking forward to this one but still not a clue how to hussle the Falcon around for anywhere near a 1:37 or wotever it was you did Jeff - i'm a good 3 secs off at best!

Oh yeah, watch that curb at the chicane unless you like being pitched into the tarmac, endo stylee.  Grin
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2008, 12:42:03 PM +0100 »


Oh yeah, watch that curb at the chicane unless you like being pitched into the tarmac, endo stylee.  Grin

yes i've done that a few times. but having driven there i don't remember it ever being that bad
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2008, 12:49:19 PM +0100 »

I'll probably never be able to say this for any other event so i'll make the most of it...."having also driven this track" ( Grin Grin Grin) albeit badly, you're right Jimmer, it definitely ain't that severe! They all seem fairly brutal in the online version!
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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2008, 01:24:28 PM +0100 »

Yeah the kerbs here are like great big plastic floats, nothing like the real track.  Never mind, still a joy to drive.

There are again 2 versions of this track, the last SRouk race used the high-grip version (I and a few others had the normal version installed and were 4 seconds off the pace, why that didn't throw a mismatch I dunno).  Not sure, but I think this may be the normal one, I started off at exactly the same pace as I made previously, 41s, then snuck into the 39s.  Stang for me I think, I've always enjoyed driving it.
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2008, 02:03:29 PM +0100 »

They have put what looks like tyres set in concrete on the downhill left hander Huh.But I like this track good fun to drive. The raise into deer leap will get you at some point Shocked
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2008, 02:23:44 PM +0100 »

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There are again 2 versions of this track, the last SRouk race used the high-grip version (I and a few others had the normal version installed and were 4 seconds off the pace, why that didn't throw a mismatch I dunno).  Not sure, but I think this may be the normal one,

If there are two versions, I would recommend everyone to download the version from the link above to ensure we all have the same one.....it should throw up GDB mismatches if its a different version....and anybody with a mismatch will NOT be allowed to race.
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2008, 02:34:05 PM +0100 »

I hope Jeff's lap is from the high grip version I really do! Anyway just to confirm - the Prodigy server's definitely on the right version.
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2008, 04:49:07 PM +0100 »

I hope Jeff's lap is from the high grip version I really do! Anyway just to confirm - the Prodigy server's definitely on the right version.

I can't remember that race at all for some reason, but it probably was with more grip, as I wasn't much quicker in that race compared to others. Certainly not 3 seconds.
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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2008, 06:13:16 PM +0100 »

Jeff's time (and all previous race times) was done on the high grip level (1.16 dry road grip factor in the .gdb file), but that is the current track we're using - we've just got loads of time to find, Oily!   Shocked

So any mistaken track versions will only lead to slower times, no need to panic about any mismatches!
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