UKGTR Season 9 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Anderstorp (GP) - Feb 15

[H@L9000]

Just thinking, It feels to me that the porka is too easy on its fuel. Both magny cour and here 80 mins is easy on a full tank.

 

I used approx 160L of fuel.

[Busi]

I tapped Busi and Blunder when trying to hold the inside line but the Viper rear end was swinging out a bit as I put the power down. This resulted in taps that sent Busi and Blunder off the track.

No problem mate the outside of T1 is a pretty risky place to try an overtake and I was sure you didn't tap me on purpose. Tough work in the Viper there

[Josè Arrogantio]

Good race,
Had some good battles with Jan and Truetom.
Had to make 2 stops because of the rain and put way too much fuel in at my second stop!
Really crazy final lap with Napo trying to come past, I think it was fair, but only just!
 

Jose decided to rejoin the track in front of me

Can’t remember being on track in the last few minutes of Qually, Maybe it was another Z4.
Really Sorry if it was me!!!!! Maybe I did not see you.

Sorry Jose and very sorry Busi and Blunder

Another thing I can’t remember. What did you do to me? 

[Napo]

Ended up going softs on my final pitstop. I paid the price in the end when my tires were shot and I spun off track so many times. It was all made worse as my car had horrible stability and was all over the place under braking. You didn't do anything Spanner, I put myself into that barrel roll...surprisingly my car was ok.

Sorry to Jose for bumping you wide there in the end of the race, was very difficult for me under braking there near the end. Glad to see you got your position back :

Glad you enjoyed it so much,but realize you were racing position 6/7/8 on the last 3 laps,beiing one lap down( pos.14!!) you should not do that.
Result:  Jose bumped off by you!!(who was sixth),Jose angry and bumping me off at the last corner .( me not happy)

Congrats to podium,

Jan

Well I'm sorry for your misfortune m8, if you read my post I said my gtr2xd displayed laps(55 lap race) instead of time counting down. So for me I was under the impression on that last lap or two I had another 6 or 7 laps to get back on legzy who was only a few seconds up the road.

If anyone can explain how to change that in gtr2xd or if it is even possible please let me know, next time I'll just turn on the HUD to check time if it isn't. I'd prefer to use the good old lcd display but this car doesn't have that.

[spanner]

Dont think it is in the XD app Napo. I run a modified Hud as that seems to be the only place its displayed correctly. There is a timer as it displays the session times, but come the race it seems to be off.

[Josè Arrogantio]

So for me I was under the impression on that last lap or two I had another 6 or 7 laps

I had the same problem in the Lower Sprint race at Spa 
Would be good if GTR2 had something to tell you when the leader had finnished.
And something to set pit stops before you stop, like in Race07!
Then it would be perfect

[Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer]

Would be good if GTR2 had something to tell you when the leader had finnished.

What, like the chequered flag in the top left of the screen?

[Blunder]

I tapped Busi and Blunder when trying to hold the inside line but the Viper rear end was swinging out a bit as I put the power down. This resulted in taps that sent Busi and Blunder off the track.

No problem mate the outside of T1 is a pretty risky place to try an overtake and I was sure you didn't tap me on purpose. Tough work in the Viper there

Ditto ! No problem buddy! These things happen when we are racing so closely!

I made the usual errors in pit stops, wrong tyres and forgetting to fill up with fuel! 
Dropped me from the top ten to nearly last! Still can't quite figure out why! but I guess I did 2 bad pit stops when others did 1 good one!  :'(
Was still having a few good battles. My Team mate Legzy sailing past me on fresher tyres finished me off! 

Can anyone comment on how they thought the 430 felt!? Legzy did me a good set up which I did modify but still seemed very tail happy both under power and braking!
Is it just us!? If you've got it tamed? can I pinch a copy of the set up? or is it a symptom of all the camber changes on this particular track?

Thanks all, well done Spanner / podium. Awesome!

M.

[jan duijs]

Martin when i expect wettish conditions i put diff to something like 15/30/2 and lower back ARB .The rest stays the same,still i feel i am a setup noob,so no gurantees 4 succes lol.

Jan

[Legzy]

My Team mate Legzy sailing past me on fresher tyres finished me off! 

So you're putting 'me overtaking you', down to my fresh tyres then?

[Blunder]

   Sensitive !     .... Absolutely, what else could it have been !!! 

[Syd Drake]

I must have set some kind of a record when I made 5 pitstops.
I started the race on soft slicks. All I could see before the start was 17 track 9 ambient on the right side of the screen. Where did you guys see it was dump?
Anyway, by the time start sequence was on, it was pouring. So at the end of the pace lap I dived into the pits and selected soft wets. This time when the tire changing sequence was done there was no rain. So now I was again on the wrong tires, and they were overheating a lot. So 2 laps later I stopped and changed to medium slicks, just to have the rain start on my out lap. At this point I was already 2 laps down, so I went back in for the third time and put hard wets. It was a bit better, but less then 10 laps later the rain stopped, and I went back in for the medium slicks. Those were holding ok for a long time. Then some 10 laps from the end, with the track fairly dry, I went in for the soft slick just to see how fast I can go (being 5 laps down, one more stop didn't mean much anymore). Unfortunately some really fast cars came to lap me, and I didn't even manage to get more than a couple of clean laps at the end.
This weather thing is new to me, back in GPL, NR2K3 and in GTL I didn't have to worry about the tire selection. It's interesting, but also frustrating. I guess this is one way to learn about it. What I learned is med slicks are pretty good in all but the extreme wet and completely dry conditions, in which case you should choose hard wets or soft slicks. Right?

[Truetom]

Lol, Syd, you had an eventful race. 

You can see conditions while in pits - before you join start on track. It said "damp" there and when it does I go with slicks. 
If it rains I go with hard wets for endurance and - depending of overall tyre wear on this track - soft wets for Sprint.

I never ever touch the inters. 

TT

P.S. I would never go back to dull endurance races with pre-set weather. 

[Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer]

Tyre choice can be somewhat car dependent.

In the dry, your choice between the three slick compounds will depend on wear and temperature. Some cars can't get more than a single qualifying lap out of softs; some need different compounds front and rear to work properly. Only testing will reveal what the correct combination is for a given car on a given track with a given race distance.

Once it starts to rain, slicks will work as long as there is no standing water, and as long as the tyre temperature can be maintained. If you're out on slicks the usual cue to pit for wets is when the tyre temperature suddenly drops off. Trying to avoid going off line helps to keep the temperature up a bit.

Chosing between hard and soft wets is always tricky and depends mostly on how hard it's raining. If it's just drizzling, hard wets are usually the better choice, if it's raining properly, soft wets will probably be needed to maintain tyre temperature. Again, this can be very car dependent; for example, the Viper will almost certainly need hard wet rears and soft wet fronts.

If the rain eases, tyre temperatures will start to climb. You have to start hunting out the wet patches off the racing line to try and cool them. Eventually the temperatures will start to spiral out of control and you have to change back to slicks.

Intermediates usually have a pretty narrow band of operating conditions; they can't clear standing water, and they won't last long on a dry track on most cars. I find the Aston works quite well on inters but it's the exception rather than the rule; they're most useful when the track is taking a long time to dry after a shower.

ps. It's mostly all guesswork.

[Simon Gymer]

I agree with TT, Inters are a waste of time. It's either raining enough or it isn't. My rule of thumb is that if I can't keep the car on the circuit then I need to change tyres. If that isn't the case then I manage the situation until something changes or my scheduled stop window. I'd rather be out on slicks losing 2 seconds a lap than waste 45-60 seconds pitting. Because the weather can change I leave it as long as possible before changing tyres rather than making a change everytime the environmental conditions are different. If you stop every time you're on the wrong tyres, you'll be forever in the pits. You have to drive the car on the wrong tyres for considerable times to do well in changing conditions.

At Anderstorp I started on medium slicks and stayed out until my car wouldn't stop for corners anymore. I left it one lap too late because the lap I came in I couldn't stop and ended up losing another 20 seconds going off and coming back on again. If wets are overheating I leave them and manage them until they are about to explode or they are very worn. Again if you can't keep it on the circuit cause they are overheating then it's time to change, but until then resist the urge to change.

Essentially you lose so much time in the pits that as long as you can keep the car on the track you're better off staying out until just before you find out it's too late. It's a guessing game, but one thing is certain...you lose a lot of time everytime you enter the pit lane.