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June 09, 2011, 09:29:37 PM +0100 - Misano (GP) - UKGTL Season 11 European Classic Car Cup
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Mike Miller
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Escort FVA (#36) GTC-65 1 1:52.345
80.235mph
1 26 1:52.128
80.390mph
Goodyear  
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
Austin-Healey 3000 (#201300) GTC-65 3 +1.494
79.182mph
2 26 1:53.803
79.207mph
Dunlop  
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Escort FVA (#36) GTC-65 4 +1.715
79.029mph
3 26 1:52.256
80.299mph
Goodyear  
M Cinderby
 Team Oldie Racing
Ford Escort FVA (#2) GTC-65 2 +1.016
79.516mph
4 26 1:53.066
79.723mph
Goodyear  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Ford Escort FVA (#36) GTC-65 12 +17.340
69.507mph
5 26 1:53.610
79.342mph
Goodyear  
Tibernius
 Prodigy Racing
Ford Escort FVA (#3) GTC-65 5 +2.741
78.324mph
6 26 1:54.444
78.763mph
Goodyear  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Ford Escort FVA (#2) GTC-65 8 +4.625
77.062mph
7 26 1:56.625
77.290mph
Goodyear  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Volvo P1800 (#6) GTC-65 6 +3.443
77.849mph
8 26 1:55.087
78.323mph
Dunlop  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#205511) GTC-65 10 +6.308
75.969mph
9 +1L 25 1:57.424
76.764mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Volvo P1800 (#118) GTC-65 9 +5.547
76.460mph
10 25 1:57.129
76.958mph
Dunlop  
SpecialKS
 TEAM-GTLDK
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#201463) GTC-65 7 +3.892
77.548mph
11 25 1:56.682
77.253mph
Dunlop  
Sandor M
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#0) TC-65 D2 12 25 ---
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Dunlop  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
Triumph GT4 (#44) GTC-65 11 +9.294
74.104mph
13 25 2:02.389
73.650mph
Dunlop  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#0) TC-65 D2 14 DNS ---
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unknown
Dunlop  
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« Reply #30 on: June 09, 2011, 11:43:25 PM +0100 »

From studying the replay I surmise that the correct results are

1 Mike Miller
2 Ade
3 Goldtop
4 Cinderby
5 Legzy
6 Tibernius
7 Syd Drake
8 Phspok
9 Veldhoven
10 WT
11 Eifelblitz
12 Bill Thomas
13 Sandor
14 Geoffers

Anyone disagree with that order?
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« Reply #31 on: June 09, 2011, 11:47:57 PM +0100 »

From what your saying it appears that a certain number of drivers load then you get a CTD without warning. Is this what happens?

Did you get your cars from this site or from other places?

Yes, that is exactly what happens.

I got all the addon-cars from the UK GTL web-site.

I  could try a total reinstallation of GTL, even though I don't see how it could help  Undecided

Stig

As your problem has occured more than once and it's been identical each time, a re-install would be a strong first step to solving this, even if it's a pain to do.
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« Reply #32 on: June 09, 2011, 11:51:26 PM +0100 »

In case you hadn't noticed  Roll Eyes it's donation time again.  Wink

Also be sure to check out the new GTL series starting this MONDAY night. Details here

The next Thursday night GTL event will be another in this series ECCC. Then we return to the BSCC the following Thursday.
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« Reply #33 on: June 10, 2011, 08:01:13 AM +0100 »

From studying the replay I surmise that the correct results are

1 Mike Miller
2 Ade
3 Goldtop
4 Cinderby
5 Legzy
6 Tibernius
7 Syd Drake
8 Phspok
9 Veldhoven
10 WT
11 Eifelblitz
12 Bill Thomas
13 Sandor
14 Geoffers

Anyone disagree with that order?


Yep, As far as I know I ended above Bill on 12th spot .
Think I was something like 15 secs behind Eifelblitz.

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« Reply #34 on: June 10, 2011, 09:13:31 AM +0100 »

From studying the replay I surmise that the correct results are

1 Mike Miller
2 Ade
3 Goldtop
4 Cinderby
5 Legzy
6 Tibernius
7 Syd Drake
8 Phspok
9 Veldhoven
10 WT
11 Eifelblitz
12 Bill Thomas
13 Sandor
14 Geoffers

Anyone disagree with that order?


seems to be ok, but don't know who was behind me. Maybe Sandor was ahead of Bill.

During practice I had strange experiences: Skins of some guys logging in to the game after myself
didn't appear (for example: I was in the pits when Tony rejoined the game next to me after changing
the car from the A110 to the Volvo and his car was only white. And there was the same phenomenon concerning PHSpok's Escort (yellow) and another A 110 which appeared simply orange).

Assume that server had a flu too. Wink
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« Reply #35 on: June 10, 2011, 10:57:20 AM +0100 »

 Smiley I think the problem with Geoffers mini was that it was added to the event mid practice. The best thing would have been to reboot the server and start again.

I think we should rerun this race due to lack of results  Evil !!!! But then again I was the one that ran out of fuel.  Grin If we did a rerun I think the Mini would be the choice car, that 1310 is far to fast, I believe they got the physics wrong on this car it was not that fast in real life. I built one in my motor sport days and it was good for 110 mph tops I don't think it would beat the Escort in real life at least not on the straights.  Grin
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« Reply #36 on: June 10, 2011, 11:29:45 AM +0100 »

I was in a white VOlvo not an escort. Bill's TR4 was white to me, maybe it was anyway?
all other cars looked correct. I ran Volvo not out of self harm syndrome
but because I was a second faster in it than the Escort. Plainly I was
missing something with my escort setup or driving....
good fun al the same, was surprised to be passed on the straight by
escorts which I had thought to be slower.
WIll miss all races next week due to being stuck down in London.
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« Reply #37 on: June 10, 2011, 12:03:12 PM +0100 »

I was in a white Volvo's not an escort. Bill's TR4 was white to me, maybe it was anyway?
all other cars looked correct. I ran Volvo not out of self harm syndrome
but because I was a second faster in it than the Escort. Plainly I was
missing something with my escort setup or driving....
good fun AL the same, was surprised to be passed on the straight by
escorts which I had thought to be slower.
WIll miss all races next week due to being stuck down in London.
Yep I saw you in the Volvo White with a green stripe I think.  Smiley A brave choice electing to drive the Swedish tank you seem to like these heavy cars Phspok Jags & Volvo's.  Grin
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« Reply #38 on: June 10, 2011, 12:10:26 PM +0100 »

Yes I was driving the White TR4 No. 44.  Apologies to Syd, I wasn't trying a Matt Neal maneuver, you surprised me when you braked earlier than I anticipated and I couldn't avoid you.  Sorry for ruining your race.
Re Sandour, my Xd showed him at -1lap and then a time, also my pit board showed somebody behind me.  Strange, I'm happy to be given last runner, I race for fun and take it one race at a time.
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« Reply #39 on: June 10, 2011, 12:19:07 PM +0100 »

Hmm, yes I do seem to use the unwieldy choices I suppose..
Mostly i think it's just a desire to run "something else"
I can't drive the 1310 min, it's like herding cats the way
it wanders all over the track. Escort was nice, as was
the TR4. 275 was quick for me  but lumbered rather
in the corners. I like the P1800s, and I used to work
for guy who had one, so is a bit of nostalgia.
I am not usually up for a win with the talent in here
so I tend to drive whatever will give me a good race
against my teamie Phil, or whatever is fairly fast
and fun.
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« Reply #40 on: June 10, 2011, 12:38:26 PM +0100 »

I actually quite liked driving the Volvo and got more used to it, the longer the race went on. Although I had two regrettable contacts early on. My excuse is that I hadn't realised from cockpit view, quite how long the bonnet was! So I apologise to the two victims who received a nurfing from me.

Following that I had a quiet race at the back but did get some excellent battles with Eifelblitz which was the best part of the night for me.

I'll be fixing the results either tonight or tomorrow.
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« Reply #41 on: June 10, 2011, 12:44:32 PM +0100 »

 Smiley This event initially looked like a potential win for me as I was getting 1.52's when practising off line, but I could not manage it in quali after changing the diff and softening the rear springs for a more comfortable set up but not ultimately fast. Wink Started in P4 after Geoffers popped up in pole?  Huh  Got a good start with Mike bogging down off the line and took a tight line into T3. Mike did ask post race "what happened at the start Mark" and on watching the replay we touched but I had no where to go as I was half a car length up the inside.  Undecided As we excited T3 I kept a tight line but this time Mike I'm afraid you clearly turned in on m,e bounced off, and exited stage right. Its often difficult to gauge where people are when racing close side by side so I would not blame anyone personally I remember Geoffers was on the outside but he does not even show in the replay. Any way no hard feelings I hope.  Smiley

I then had some nice close racing with Ade catching and passing him, a rare occurrence for me, but very gratifying.  Grin Mike caught us both around 2/3rds distance but when he tried to pass me at T6 left we both out braked ourselves but I just managed to hold on to my Esc and escape Mikes clutches as he spun out.  Grin Mike was fast though and I new it was just a matter of time before he reappeared in my mirrors and sure enough some laps later he attacked again a T6 but this time made it stick. With 2 laps to go the fuel light comes on even though I put 28 laps worth in, I seem to recall Mike mentioning some thing about putting 30 laps worth in during practise and this now came back to haunt me, so  pitted on 25 put a squirt of fuel in and went just in time to see Gold Top go by taking P3................Disaster had struck.  :'(

Congratulations on your podiums Mike, Ade, and Gold Top, particularly Mike whom was fast all race and just would not give on P1 well done mate.  clap
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« Reply #42 on: June 10, 2011, 12:47:17 PM +0100 »

Hmm, yes I do seem to use the unwieldy choices I suppose..
Mostly i think it's just a desire to run "something else"
I can't drive the 1310 min, it's like herding cats the way
it wanders all over the track. Escort was nice, as was
the TR4. 275 was quick for me  but lumbered rather
in the corners. I like the P1800s, and I used to work
for guy who had one, so is a bit of nostalgia.
I am not usually up for a win with the talent in here
so I tend to drive whatever will give me a good race
against my teamie Phil, or whatever is fairly fast
and fun.
My Dad used to own a P1800 Eatate. Very nice to look at but handled like a barge.
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« Reply #43 on: June 10, 2011, 03:17:30 PM +0100 »

I hope we'll have replay and usual charts (positions, lap by lap etc.) because I don't know yet what happened during the first lap. Saw a lot of cars crashing, found me in something like 5th position and in the end of lap one I had the feeling of a contact from behind which forced me to a turnaround.
So I found myself again in more common regions of the tableau...

'edit: watched my own replay and found that it was simply my own fault which caused my turnaraound at the end of lap one. Had Sandor in the Mini behind me but listed as first place ?!?'

Had a quiet race afterwards but in the end I had great and funny fights with Tony.
Tried to overtake him once again in lap 24 but forgot worsened condition of tyres and brakes for another turnaround which left Tony ahead for good. After that I realized a very bare level of fuel so I slowed down for reaching the flag.

Wondrously I had to realise that I reached identical best laptimes in practice, quali and race of 1:56,7 each which obviuosly seemed to be my limit.

Ever fun to drive with you, guys.

See you next time.
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« Reply #44 on: June 10, 2011, 07:40:44 PM +0100 »

Revised results now posted
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