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July 21, 2011, 08:44:15 PM +0100 - Hungaroring (2003-) - UKGTL Season 11 European Classic Car Cup
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#544) TC-65 D2 1 1:55.917
76.122mph
1 48:05.099
73.402mph
24 1:57.054
75.382mph
Dunlop  
Phil Gilliland
 Team Pseudo Racing
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#674) TC-65 D2 4 +1.694
75.025mph
2 +4.514
73.287mph
24 1:58.713
74.329mph
Dunlop  
Tibernius
 Prodigy Racing
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#42) TC-65 D2 5 +2.126
74.751mph
3 +7.019
73.224mph
24 1:58.583
74.411mph
Dunlop  
M Cinderby
 Team Oldie Racing
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#544) TC-65 D2 2 +1.064
75.430mph
4 +14.533
73.034mph
24 1:57.175
75.305mph
Dunlop  
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
Austin-Healey 3000 (#201300) GTC-65 6 +2.919
74.252mph
5 +21.762
72.852mph
24 1:59.360
73.926mph
Dunlop  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Renault Alpine A110 (#580) GTC-65 7 +5.306
72.790mph
6 +1:20.690
71.405mph
24 2:02.169
72.226mph
Dunlop  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Renault Alpine A110 (#501) GTC-65 9 +8.610
70.859mph
7 +1L
69.724mph
23 2:04.477
70.887mph
Dunlop  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
Triumph GT4 (#144) GTC-65 10 +11.448
69.280mph
8 +2L
67.200mph
22 2:08.086
68.890mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Volvo P1800 (#234) GTC-65 11 +17.047
66.362mph
9 +4L 20 2:03.737
71.311mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Sandor M
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#674) TC-65 D2 8 +7.559
71.462mph
10 +20L 4 2:02.988
71.745mph
suspension
Dunlop  
Pelle_B
 TEAM-GTLDK
Renault Alpine A110 (#501) GTC-65 3 +1.395
75.217mph
11 +23L 1 4:41.711
31.322mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Sherlock
 
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#544) TC-65 D2 +24L 0 ---
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DQ
Dunlop  
SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GT Legends
TC-65 D2
1:55.917
76.122mph
Geoffers
Qualifying
Austin Mini Cooper 1275SJuly 21, 2011, 08:44:15 PM +0100
L11ECCC
GT Legends
TC-65 D2
1:57.054
75.382mph
Geoffers
Race
Austin Mini Cooper 1275SJuly 21, 2011, 08:44:15 PM +0100
L11ECCC
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« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2011, 09:16:51 PM +0100 »

Big sry in T1  :'( My PC froze & I got black screen  Huh
At first I thought it was connection, but discovers it is my hard drive is starting to run wild...& It keeps on. Even after I took a break with a pitstop & decides to leave the race...no more accidents.
I have put my replay up if you want to see.
http://www.buchner.dk/Oops/Hungaroring_110721_PB.zip

Hope you all had a good race after all  Wink
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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2011, 09:45:27 PM +0100 »

Not a race to remember  Angry

In the first 2 laps I ruined my suspension.
Car became undrivable but because I just wanted to have some fun I went for a pitstop that lasted 2 minutes...
First lap out I ruined my suspension again in the same corner as earlier,  stupid me.

That was too much for me and quit the race. There goes my championship  laugh
Early days mate, early days  Wink
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« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2011, 09:54:21 PM +0100 »

 Smiley Great race Qualified P2 to Geoff which felt really good as Geoff is the Mini master.

Dropped to P4 off the start then I'm not sure who hit me but my car was roof bound.  Sad Then hammered it to get back to P2. Sorry for any slight contact on the way Phil & Tibs I brake very late into the chicane and T-last. I then found Geoff had spun just before T-last and result I'm P1.  Grin Now for a little race management.....bugger tyres half gone and its only lap ten. Then no surprise around lap sixteen Geoff is catching. We had a great battle with me doggedly holding my line but tyres fadding fast. Geoff eventually late braked the chicane and beached but this through my concentration and I went off a few bends later allowing Phil & Tibs through whom must have thought Christmas had come early.  Grin Lap 21 and Geoff is back again this time taking no prisoners and I'm running on canvas any way. A few more laps and Ade would have caught me I think  Roll Eyes  Grin

Finished P4 what a disaster.

Congrates to Geoff, Phil and Tibs well done guys and well deserved.......good things come to those whom wait!!  laugh

PS what happened to Tony?  Huh
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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2011, 10:09:43 PM +0100 »

I think I lost my connection about two laps from the end  Sad

EDIT: Result says 4 laps from end.
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« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2011, 10:25:58 PM +0100 »

Replay and results now posted

Can Sherlock add his nationality to his profile please, then he'll get a little flag next to his name. Hope you get your wheel soon mate.
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« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2011, 11:55:07 AM +0100 »

Sympathise with Sandor.  Had quite a few good races, for me, then I had spate of problems with that Mini.  All of a sudden all the kerbs started attacking it, throwing it into walls, Armco, other cars, they just didn't care.  After a number of DNFs I stopped using it, too tempermental and fragile.  Still it's no longer there now as a choice.

Had my usual race, made a good start avoided the T1 problems overtaking a few cars then had a mad disco session at T2 - braked and turned in too late, each attempt to spin car to right direction went too far and driving on the grass was like ice.  Eventually got back on track and had a steady drive to the finished.  Was lapped twice by winner due to discoing and being particularly kind to overtakers - virtually parked to let a loose train of Minis through so as not to bulk anyone.

At least I finished and set new PB qualifying so  night wasn't a complete disaster.
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« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2011, 08:19:23 PM +0100 »

Unofficial LapChart

Was caught up in the T1 issues and rejoined at the back. Managed to overtake Bill (nice car choice!) and then followed a white car  Huh
Pitboard didn't seem to indicate any cars running in front of me but managed to keep track of the phantom car.
Looking at the results I know realise it was Tony in the (underrated?) Volvo...
Shame that we had such a big gap in the beginning because we had a comparable pace (although you were slightly quicker).
Too bad that you got a disco. You really deserved a good finish.

Saw the AustinTrain come by in the last laps.. must have been a helluva fight .

Congrats.
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« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2011, 08:32:29 PM +0100 »

Big sry in T1  :'( My PC froze & I got black screen  Huh
At first I thought it was connection, but discovers it is my hard drive is starting to run wild...& It keeps on. Even after I took a break with a pitstop & decides to leave the race...no more accidents.
I have put my replay up if you want to see.
http://www.buchner.dk/Oops/Hungaroring_110721_PB.zip

Hope you all had a good race after all  Wink


Pelle. Is your PC running on Win7? If so I had the same problem a few weeks ago particularly with P&G. The PC would black screen then the screen would reappear some 5 sec's later and by this time I was off track.

I have found if I edit the power setting on the PC to ON all the time and never sleep or power down it solves the problem.  Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2011, 08:37:05 PM +0100 »

Sympathise with Sandor.  Had quite a few good races, for me, then I had spate of problems with that Mini.  All of a sudden all the kerbs started attacking it, throwing it into walls, Armco, other cars, they just didn't care.  After a number of DNFs I stopped using it, too tempermental and fragile.  Still it's no longer there now as a choice.

Had my usual race, made a good start avoided the T1 problems overtaking a few cars then had a mad disco session at T2 - braked and turned in too late, each attempt to spin car to right direction went too far and driving on the grass was like ice.  Eventually got back on track and had a steady drive to the finished.  Was lapped twice by winner due to discoing and being particularly kind to overtakers - virtually parked to let a loose train of Minis through so as not to bulk anyone.

At least I finished and set new PB qualifying so  night wasn't a complete disaster.

 Smiley Its always a pleasure to race with you Bill but it is really not necessary to park up. Its all part of racing passing back markers if the front runners get held up a little I'm afraid that's part of racing.  Wink Its your evening's fun as well as everyone elses, have fun stay on your pace and stay on your racing line, its much easier to pass you that way.  Smiley
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« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2011, 09:12:18 PM +0100 »

Agree with what Mark said, there is no need to park up & let the faster guys past Bill, just stick to your racing line in the corners & they will find a way past.

Was a really fun race. Got a bit of a lead at the start but then threw it away with a spin about lap 6. I was keeping too much of an eye on the left rear tyre temp, which was almost permanently in the red, & not concentrating enough on where I was going  Roll Eyes. The tyre temp must have been due to the fuel load as later in the race it was fine.

Caught back up with the Minis at the front, passed Tibs & Phil but struggled to find a way past Mark. Nearly got past at the chicane twice, but both times messed up the braking, spun the second time. Thought I'd lost all chance of a win then, but the other Minis all seemed to be struggling for pace by that stage, whereas mine was almost as quick as at the beginning. Must have hit on a more forgiving setup  Cool. So managed to reel in Mark (after his spin), Tibs & Phil & nicked the win in the last couple of laps.  Grin

Congrats to Phil & Tibs & thanks to both & Mark for a good race clap. Also cheers to Ade who very kindly waved me past after my first spin  thumbup1
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« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2011, 10:01:13 PM +0100 »


Not sure where you got the data from Alex but it ain't from last night's race.
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« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2011, 12:36:48 AM +0100 »

That's from this years BSCC at Oulton Park
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« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2011, 10:18:51 AM +0100 »

Thanks for your comments Mark and Geoffers, that is how I always drive when I'm in a competitive race ie have a position to lose or gain. But when like last night, I'm 20 to 30 secs down on the car if front and losing a sec or two a lap, with no one behind; I don't think it's right to spoil other driver's races.  When I approach a windy bit, and I see a loose train of say 3 or more cars covered by say 5 secs, I know the leader can pass but the rest will lose time behind me until they find a place to overtake and lose valueable time, I Will move over slow to a crawl or stop, track conditions permitting of course - fair play and all that.

At that stage my race is against myself, trying to take the right line and keep lap times up as high as possible.  Sometimes I even get a PB - what's one ruined lap in that situation?
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« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2011, 02:58:17 AM +0100 »

Pelle. Is your PC running on Win7? If so I had the same problem a few weeks ago particularly with P&G. The PC would black screen then the screen would reappear some 5 sec's later and by this time I was off track.

I have found if I edit the power setting on the PC to ON all the time and never sleep or power down it solves the problem.  Smiley
Yes Win7 x64. My screen turns off after 10 mins (no screensaver) & my hard drives are on 'never'. Think this is the first time I see it & have suspected for a Nero 10 installation, same day before race.
After I watched my replay, I'm glad that the screen went black...Tony drove right through me  Grin ...but when I get picture back, I am in the sand & see a lot of cars flying around, I had no idea what I was guilty of  Sad

@Bill: Whatever you drive...I always try to give you a greeting with lights  Cool
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« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2011, 12:44:23 PM +0100 »

I have now watched the replay and besides Pelle's misshap the really odd thing is why Mark's mini went skybound at the first turn? He isn't hit and doesn't appear to drive into anyone.
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