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« on: February 25, 2021, 08:31:52 PM +0000 » |
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Season 38 – 1955 Grand Prix – Round 4 – Privateers - Monsanto Park
This race announcement is for the PRIVATEERS.
The fourth race in the 1955 Grand Prix series finds us in Portugal. The street circuit of Monsanto Park to be precise. Built on parkland, the circuit was considered difficult to drive because it crossed so many different types of surfaces, including tramlines at one point. The track hosted numerous races from 1954 to 1959, but only one race qualified as a Formula One event: the 1959 Portuguese Grand Prix, won by Stirling Moss. He won the race in the twilight hours, since the race was purposefully started late in the day to avoid the intense late summer sun.
Race list | = | iGOR | Server | = | UKGPL04_60fps | IP address Server | = | 86.6.125.152:32766 | Password | = | see above | GPL Mod | = | 55 | 60fps Patch | = | 60fpsV2newmod | Track download | = | link | Track directory | = | monsanto | Qualifying starts | = | 20:45 UK time - 45 minutes | Race starts | = | ~ 21:30 UK time | Race length | = | 21 laps | Replay | = | here |
Please restrict chat to emergency messages only including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line. Driver lists and division specific rules can be found on the championship standings page. Available Tokens:Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start. Driver | Tokens | Status | Albert Hallu | 20 | Privateer | bernie | 40 | Privateer | covisi2016 | 40 | Privateer | dave curtis | 28 | Privateer | francesco | 20 | Privateer | Giovanni Centorame | 20 | Privateer | leomenegucci | 18 | Privateer | maddog | 18 | Privateer | PaulV | 30 | Privateer | philippe GIRARD | 14 | Privateer | Rainier | 20 | Privateer | Ricardo Valim da Silva | 15 | Privateer |
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PaulV
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2021, 09:47:41 PM +0000 » |
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another ruined race.
Im getting a little fed up of people treating the first lap or two like a Kamikazi attack. Im not one to complain usually, but this is becoming a bloody nuisance.
its not as if Im a problem as Im usually at the back anyway. Im hardly likely to win. But would at least like a few laps to enjoy GPL
Paul V.
Im not going to say too much because Im bloody Pi**ed off.
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2021, 10:23:28 PM +0000 » |
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another ruined race.
Im getting a little fed up of people treating the first lap or two like a Kamikazi attack. Im not one to complain usually, but this is becoming a bloody nuisance.
its not as if Im a problem as Im usually at the back anyway. Im hardly likely to win. But would at least like a few laps to enjoy GPL
Paul V.
Im not going to say too much because Im bloody Pi**ed off.
Paul , I know exactly how you feel , I got as far as Lap3 this time before being attacked by a stupid overtake attempt which ended my race AGAIN Not happy
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Clive Loynes
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2021, 10:27:42 PM +0000 » |
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Get the reports in boys.
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Giovanni Centorame
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2021, 10:46:30 PM +0000 » |
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It's my first race ever in a league and really i didn't expect to win, fantastic race and only 3 at the end ! I Started in pole, Hunt's Lancia overtook me on first lap but spun after few corners, so i took the lead but then Leo overtook me on the straight. Beautiful race with Leo, 10 laps 1 sec behind him with his Vanwall impossible to catch on the straight, side by side at first corner without touching each other ,no dangerous manouvers or blocking from Leo; all i could do was wait for an error. It was dissapointing when i saw him spun adn retire. I took the lead with 25 sec of advantage from Ricardo silva, and then was a carnage, only 3 cars at the finish line, don't know if because connection problems or errors...Thak you all guys, can't wait for next race in tripoli.
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Phil Thornton
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2021, 10:48:53 PM +0000 » |
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Submit incident reports gents and the mod team will have a look.
Thank you for your patience Paul, I know how frustrating it is not to finish the race but you are quite right to give yourself time to compose yourself and to resist the temptation to vent your anger on the forums. Rest assured any incident report will be properly assessed.
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2021, 10:52:55 PM +0000 » |
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Sorry all, but its not worth the practice or the time.
I have just deregistered from the 55s, the GTs and the 67s.
I would also stop running the Can Am cars if they were a current series. Just too much trouble at most races.
I love GPL and UKGL, but I don't really drive the cars at high enough levels to be competitive so there really isn't any point. I intend to carry on in the Open Wheel series for now and the 65s where the racing is close and fun. The cars being able to be driven closely and within all the driver's capabilities.
I shall be back next season when I've practiced enough to be more than a consistent back marker.
Cheers Paul.
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Phil Thornton
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2021, 10:55:03 PM +0000 » |
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It's my first race ever in a league and really i didn't expect to win.....
Congratulations Giovanni. I was impressed with your driving when you were on the practice server yesterday, for someone who has not raced in a league before your awareness of the cars around you was excellent. That is the key to racing fairly on-line. Knowing where the other drivers are and not taking unnecessary risks is paramount. I have no doubt you will progress to the Works very soon. Enjoy the victory, you have a 100% record.
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PaulV
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2021, 11:00:48 PM +0000 » |
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Sorry Phil... but typed my reply before your message, but do feel as I have said. I Should have sent it quicker.. lol.
It seems a shame that these problems can only be resolved after the event and by the moderators.
Although you guys do a brilliant job, it's not fair on you.
So many of these issues could be avoided. We all know a race can't be won on the first lap.
We can't even get any championship points without do 50% of the race.
We don't need moderation after the event we need to think about how we race online before we even join the server.
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Phil Thornton
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2021, 11:09:19 PM +0000 » |
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I have just deregistered from the 55s, the GTs and the 67s.
Sorry to hear that Paul, but focussing on the MixedOW and 65s might be a good idea. The 55s, GTs and 67 are all tough cars which all require different driving techniques. Not an easy combination when you are trying to improve your technique. I shall be back next season when I've practiced enough to be more than a consistent back marker.
Practice does help but it is also important to understand what other drivers do differently. After several years of stagnation I've managed to make some big improvements recently which is down to understanding why other drivers were faster than me. Hopefully you can do the same. I'll try to summarise what I have done and send you a PM.
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2021, 11:20:14 PM +0000 » |
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I have just deregistered from the 55s, the GTs and the 67s.
Sorry to hear that Paul, but focussing on the MixedOW and 65s might be a good idea. The 55s, GTs and 67 are all tough cars which all require different driving techniques. Not an easy combination when you are trying to improve your technique. I shall be back next season when I've practiced enough to be more than a consistent back marker.
Practice does help but it is also important to understand what other drivers do differently. After several years of stagnation I've managed to make some big improvements recently which is down to understanding why other drivers were faster than me. Hopefully you can do the same. I'll try to summarise what I have done and send you a PM. Thanks Phil. Would be extremely interesting. Look forward to your PM.
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2021, 09:20:55 AM +0000 » |
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I'll try to summarise what I have done and send you a PM.
I would be interested too by this PM !! I would be very sad if Paul leave these series, I am always confident when I am followed by him during the race. There are not so many drivers like him. I had a look to the replay of his accident at Monsanto... Maybe we should add new rules and penalties about drivers reversing back on the track after a spin, without taking care of others. I also read some comments on Monsanto Works topic, and driver(s) writing they will leave this series...
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Clive Loynes
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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2021, 09:53:39 AM +0000 » |
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I had a look to the replay of his accident at Monsanto... Maybe we should add new rules and penalties about drivers reversing back on the track after a spin, without taking care of others.
I think that is covered by the "Bad Rejoin" rules.
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2021, 11:06:58 AM +0000 » |
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I had a look to the replay of his accident at Monsanto... Maybe we should add new rules and penalties about drivers reversing back on the track after a spin, without taking care of others.
I know you don't like me, but it seems excessive to create rules for me. Remember that you made a bad rejoin towards me too, but you didn't ask for special rules. P. S:if possible i wolud like to receive the PM of Phil.
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Rainier
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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2021, 11:36:11 AM +0000 » |
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I had a look to the replay of his accident at Monsanto... Maybe we should add new rules and penalties about drivers reversing back on the track after a spin, without taking care of others.
I know you don't like me, but it seems excessive to create rules for me. Remember that you made a bad rejoin towards me too, but you didn't ask for special rules. Please stop with your personal accusation. It becomes ridiculous. From my side, there is nothing personal. I was undirectly victim of the same kind of accident in Monza 67 (that was not with you !!!) and I reported an incident with a type "bad rejoin" The answer was "Wasn't a rejoin given the strict interpretation of the definition (didn't have 3 or 4 wheels off the track so may need to revise this definition?)" I agreed with this answer and that was the only reason I wrote we need specific rules for reversing back. I have nothing against one particular driver or anyone else.
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