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  • S20N Kyalami: January 25, 2011
January 25, 2011, 09:54:00 PM +0000 - Kyalami (1961-67) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Artiglietti
 
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 1 1:24.989
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1 34:29.520
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24 1:24.924
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Dunlop  
Ross Neilson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 2 +0.390
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2 +3.973
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24 1:25.647
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Dunlop  
il_lupo_mannaro
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 6 +0.921
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3 +21.116
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24 1:25.940
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Dunlop  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 7 +1.011
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4 +27.145
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24 1:25.908
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Goodyear  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 5 +0.705
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5 +40.183
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24 1:26.571
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Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 9 +1.271
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6 +44.535
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24 1:26.652
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Goodyear  
miner2049er
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 11 +1.443
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7 +1:07.324
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24 1:27.319
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Dunlop  
maestro57
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 12 +1.471
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8 +1:32.100
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24 1:26.120
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Dunlop  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 16 +3.973
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9 +1:33.384
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24 1:26.403
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Dunlop  
happyal
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 14 +2.094
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10 +1L
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23 1:27.249
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Dunlop  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 15 +3.522
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11 +2L
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22 1:28.905
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Goodyear  
karlisss
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 10 +1.423
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12 +1.414
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22 1:26.258
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Goodyear  
Ronniepeterson
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 4 +0.396
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13 +8.465
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22 1:25.706
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Dunlop  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +0.391
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14 (+1) +12L
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12 1:26.068
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Goodyear  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 8 +1.190
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15 +16L
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8 1:28.827
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Dunlop  
norbert
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 17 +5.090
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16 DNS ---
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Dunlop  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 13 +1.574
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17 ---
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Dunlop  
5 UKGPL.65
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 18 ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Kyalami showed us 3 kinds of people. Those who understand binary and those that don't.

Oh, and those that can find the pit entry and those that can't. I've watched the entire replay several times and I'm sure the Pit entry does not move, yet lots of people failed to find it when necessary.

The battle up front was intense with the top 2 separated by a few seconds for the entire race, and there were some great performances from the mid field pack.

Now then, who had the pit wall as instructed and who didn't?


Server replay time: 0h00m54s

Nigel Smith drives through the end of the pit wall.

All drivers were told to have the pit wall in place or face disqualification. Though Nigel did not specifically gain an advantage by driving through the wall at that time, had it been in place he would have hit it and caused potential carnage behind.

I have chosen to issue a warning only in this instance, but next time I post a Kyalami race post it will be much more clear that any driver crossing the pit wall will be instantly disqualified.


Server replay time: 0h01m00s

Karliss is lucky not to collect Nigel when he outbrakes himself into T1


Server replay time: 0h07m30s

Al takes a SHIFTR presumably to repair damage from his earlier crash but does not take a SnG.


Server replay time: 0h08m20s

Karliss attempts to enter the pit lane but loses control and slides across track collecting a helpless RogUK and Pete Maestro who miraculously lands in the pit lane and inspects the damage.


Server replay time: 0h10m10s

Karliss attempts a second shot at the pit lane and gets collected by Blito who doesn't realise he is pitting.

The pit entry is tricky here and though Blito could not know Karliss was about to pit, it is always risky to close on somebody so quickly at that point.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h11m45s

RogUK is trying to pit following his SHIFTR but his SHIFTR was actually a free one.
He messes up his entry and has to reset so he now does owe a SnG which he takes at 0h13m30s.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h12m00s

Well, they say 3rd time lucky.
Unfortunately Karliss has never heard the saying and his 3rd attempt at pitting goes no better than his previous 2.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h12m50s

Ronnie passes Norm on the inside at Jukskei Sweep and the 2 collide.

Norm has lost the corner and Ronnie has enough overlap at turn in.

Norm takes too tight a line and although they are near the centre line when they touch, Norm is turning into Ronnie and should have allow him more room.


Server replay time: 0h13m05s

Karliss approaches a prostate NHance and Ronnie.
He is shown yellow flags and does slow down but clips Ronnie.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h14m20s

Ronnie attempts to pit following his crash with Norm and rips the front wheel off in the process.

His reset was free but now he does owe one and takes it immediately.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h15m50s

Karliss takes a 3rd SnG but this is for the incident where he was rear ended by Blito and should have been a free SHIFTR.


Server replay time: 0h29m25s

Ronnie attempts to pass Paul just as Paul has a huge tank slapper and the two collide.

  • Racing incident

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« Reply #45 on: January 27, 2011, 03:57:23 PM +0000 »

Thanks Maddog, will work on that when I next get to the home pc.
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« Reply #46 on: January 27, 2011, 04:04:44 PM +0000 »

I  have always understood that it is "at the drivers discretion" whether or not to have the pitwall in place.

Shut up you fool, there is a place at stake here.

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« Reply #47 on: January 27, 2011, 05:33:52 PM +0000 »

i should think there were quite a few drivers without the wall........
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« Reply #48 on: January 27, 2011, 06:47:58 PM +0000 »

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The absence of a pit wall will not stop you from joining the race but anybody seen by the moderators miraculously driving through the pit wall on the server replay will be disqualified.ms

I read this as it being OK to join without the pit all but to do so was at yer own risk of being DQ'd  if seen to drive through it .

Some had trouble replacing said wall,  as was the case with at least one driver in the Ams race who discussed the matter in chat but was unable to resolve the problem and was told to join the race regardless but was warned not to cross the line   Roll Eyes

N.B. my own wall was fully intact having spent the previous evening building it
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« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2011, 08:54:52 PM +0000 »

You can't actually prove he didn't have the wall in place unless he crossed it on the replay.  Wink Everything else is just words, even if it's from Nige's own mouth (fingers).  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #50 on: January 27, 2011, 09:22:23 PM +0000 »

There may indeed be a place at stake ...but its a Waza place!!! Grin.......not that I am in any way biased you understand  Roll Eyes

Hristo is quite correct. There is no way of knowing for sure if anyone does or does not have the pitwall in place, unless they are seen to drive through it on the server replay. angel
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« Reply #51 on: January 27, 2011, 10:10:05 PM +0000 »

I think what Nigel meant was "The pit wall I didn't have in place before I fixed it"

That IS what you meant, isn't it Nige!
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« Reply #52 on: January 27, 2011, 10:15:23 PM +0000 »

I'm sitting on the wall on this one  Grin
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« Reply #53 on: January 27, 2011, 10:57:38 PM +0000 »

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« Reply #54 on: January 27, 2011, 11:21:23 PM +0000 »

I'm sitting on the wall on this one  Grin

You better hope Nige doesn't drive through you.  Wink
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« Reply #55 on: January 28, 2011, 12:11:27 AM +0000 »

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« Reply #56 on: January 28, 2011, 12:15:25 AM +0000 »

i should think there were quite a few drivers without the wall........

Mike = I;ve changed my mind - disqualify all the drivers you even SUSPECT of not having a wall - I might get a podium here.

BTW - I definitely had a wall and I can prove it - ha.
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« Reply #57 on: January 28, 2011, 12:18:58 AM +0000 »

what should be a competitive time for anderstop?
id did test race with Ai, but seems on that track all virtual drivers are slow and after 2 laps going mad... crashing in T1 one behind other

I've done ten laps or so and I haven't changed my gears yet which will gain me a second maybe and I am lapping at about 1:47-1:48. So the quick boys will be doing 1:42-3 I would guess. Maybe quicker - I find this one quite tricky. I think the WR is something like 1:39.
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« Reply #58 on: February 02, 2011, 05:47:00 PM +0000 »

Anderstorp -

There is very little grip. I avoid the ridges in places so the marked race line ain't always the best. Set up - well I tried a downloaded one (desperate now you see) from Clutch's favourite Sim Racing race engineer & couldn't get below 1.42.  My own set up is a bit erm.... odd but if you were in UKGPL last season have a look at what you were driving at Westwood.
Ok I can get in the 1.41's for qually, but I'm inconsistant so it'll be embarrasing if I can't on race night now. The top two( you know who Wink) will be in the 1.40's at a guess & if it's 1.39's :'(.
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« Reply #59 on: February 03, 2011, 09:15:25 AM +0000 »

Well, you are a pretty pessimistic chap Norm...if it's 39s in one of the saloons is a WR or there about , by the way! But yes, it is a tricky track, I agree on that. And dont forget there might be a problem with tire temps during the race, which would be a first with me...
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