UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Montjuich Park - Jan 29

[Al Heller]

It's odd people have screen freeze problems with Montjuic, I never experienced any issues with it. Perhaps there is some fix which I installed, can't really remember at the moment. Could be down to some graphics settings as well.

Perhaps it's down to your PC configuration H? Or maybe it's the mod - I've not had problems racing here with 67's either but 65's & 66's have both ended with freeze. I did a quick search & notice it's on the track blacklist at Gplracer: http://forum.gplracer.eu/topic.php?id=50& Also I do remember reading stuff about it being freeze-prone on SRMZ. We seem to have had 6+ drivers freeze out at this race so it seems pretty unreliable.

[BadBlood]

Yeh yeh. I froze - that was it. It wasn't me driving into the armco at all... 

[Hristo Itchov]

Perhaps it's down to your PC configuration H? Or maybe it's the mod - I've not had problems racing here with 67's either but 65's & 66's have both ended with freeze. I did a quick search & notice it's on the track blacklist at Gplracer: http://forum.gplracer.eu/topic.php?id=50& Also I do remember reading stuff about it being freeze-prone on SRMZ. We seem to have had 6+ drivers freeze out at this race so it seems pretty unreliable.

I'm not sure what is the reason, but I do experience freezes on other tracks and track-mod combinations which are known for causing it. This was probably my 5th or 6th league race at Montjuic though and I've not retired because of a screen freeze in any of them.

[BadBlood]

Nor have I (and I have completed 1 or 2 laps!) but I did notice a big frame rate drop in sections of the track in qually. Went from 36 -> 24 -> 18 and it was quite juddery but then it picked up again.

[maddog]

Montjuic used to cause me problems both offline, and online, and GPLRacers blacklisting seemed justified.  But after installing one of the addons designed to fix the hotspots, it's been fine.

We run the risk of missing out on tracks unnecessarily, if some don't do their homework.  Real drivers don't  have to repair racetracks, before racing on them, but maybe we do. 

[bernie]

History relates that the real life drivers along with there mechanics did have to fix the montjuic track before it was deemed safe to race 

So there 

[maddog]

So, the truth will out!   It's one thing for a spectator to throw an empty drinks bottle at a runner, but quite another to dig potholes into a track, over a blind rise before a hairpin.  Herr Rindt would argue one was missed, until he hit it.  Sounds suspiciously like it was all Bernie's fault!

[Rainier]

Moderation published.

[MagicArsouille]

ok,I accepte anyway the rulls, but I finish in the same lap than the winner and nobody overtake me during the race...I normaly finish 2 nd but never mind......all this because I make all the qualifs with my 65's setup !!??....I see my mistake about 5 mn to the end of qualifs and change for the good setup 66.....after that I miss again the starter and start from the pits.... , but it was a solid race till the end ....thx to everybody...and I promesse to don't miss the next start

[Rainier]

Thanks, Tristan !

(just a question : how is it possible to select a mod65 setup when running in mod66 ? Maybe it is linked to the player's name : I use a different player name per each mod so no confusion risk)

[Hristo Itchov]

I think since starting from the pits is allowed officially, it should always be OK for someone to use if necessary, and the results to be fixed if necessary. It has happened many times in the past for many different drivers, myself included, and it has always been fixed by the mods. It's not always because of starting from the pits that you may drop a lap behind, it could happen due to lag as well. Are you saying results won't be fixed at all in the future if such things occur?

[BadBlood]

We will fix the results where there is a clear error by the game but the layout of this track means that you start from in front of the start finish line so the result is actually correct. It can be quite a lot of work to fix the results but where there is a clear injustice or server error, we will do so.

This isn't an error, just that Tris was late...

[Hristo Itchov]

Many tracks have such a layout (Monaco and Rouen come to mind), that doesn't mean the starting from the pits is intended to put you a lap down (it would be meaningless like that). The first few pit stalls on such tracks are in front of the s/f line and for some people it won't happen, so it would create unfair treatment if you pay attention to that. It's just a flaw in the GPL engine track design and we shouldn't be bound by it.

[bernie]

I can remember starting one particular race from the pits where I had qualified right at the back of the grid ( can't remember the track right now ) but the thing is , when I emerged from the pit lane I was up there with the leaders , in fact I prolly could have got out in front of the whole field with a better launch . I'm sure there are a few tracks were the start line is before the pits and would give a similar advantage , however the penalty is you drop a lap , I accepted that and think it is fair , if your gonna get the lap back after racing think i will be making a few more pit lane starts , after all the downer of starting from the rear , particularly with the stupidly extended grids means by the time you get away the leaders are already half a lap ahead , escpecially some tracks when we can't see the flag and have to wait for the car in front to move as a start signal .

Yep , Pit lane start is the way to go so look out Hristo here I come  

[Hristo Itchov]

Well in either case the results should be adjusted to reflect the actual position.