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May 17, 2011, 09:40:00 PM +0100 - Watkins Glen (Classic) - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
DuFossa
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 2 +0.568
117.889mph
1 (+1) 39:30.539
115.268mph
33 1:10.735
117.059mph
Goodyear  
karlisss
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 1 1:09.669
118.850mph
2 +1.003
115.219mph
33 1:10.233
117.896mph
Goodyear  
norbert
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 5 +1.032
117.116mph
3 +10.947
114.738mph
33 1:11.009
116.608mph
Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 10 +1.179
116.873mph
4 +21.622
114.226mph
33 1:11.331
116.081mph
Goodyear  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 11 +1.205
116.830mph
5 (+3) +24.730
114.077mph
33 1:10.817
116.924mph
Dunlop  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 4 +0.832
117.448mph
6 (+1) +26.675
113.985mph
33 1:10.253
117.862mph
Dunlop  
maestro57
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 9 +1.173
116.882mph
7 +32.841
113.692mph
33 1:10.911
116.769mph
Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 12 +1.212
116.818mph
8 +1:03.090
112.279mph
33 1:11.179
116.329mph
Dunlop  
Cookie
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 3 +0.758
117.571mph
9 (+1) +41.364
113.291mph
33 1:10.065
118.179mph
Dunlop  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 15 +1.450
116.427mph
10 +54.896
112.659mph
33 1:12.029
114.956mph
Dunlop  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 17 +1.738
115.958mph
11 (+2) +1L
110.709mph
32 1:11.561
115.708mph
Goodyear  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +1.038
117.106mph
12 +5.921
110.436mph
32 1:11.266
116.187mph
Dunlop  
happyal
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 13 +1.323
116.636mph
13 +2L
111.764mph
31 1:11.312
116.112mph
Dunlop  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 7 +1.107
116.991mph
14 +1:20.044
108.000mph
31 1:10.838
116.889mph
Goodyear  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 14 +1.443
116.439mph
15 (+3) +25L
105.543mph
8 1:12.121
114.810mph
accident
Dunlop  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 8 +1.110
116.987mph
16 +30L
104.163mph
3 1:12.126
114.802mph
accident
Dunlop  
economia
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 16 +1.717
115.992mph
17 DNS ---
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Dunlop  
5 UKGPL.65
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 18 18 ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

After the bumper cars left Monaco, the organisers at Watkins Glen agreed to let the Novices race there as it was wide open countryside and there couldn't possibly be any crashes on such a fast and flowing track.........................

A couple of drivers now need to keep their noses clean as their incident portfolios are filling up.


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Martin follows RogUK towards T1 and as the field slow for the corner, Martin does not react quickly enough and hits RogUK launching him into the air.
RogUK is sent into the air and is unavoidably hit when he lands.
Unfortunately his great recovery drive is marred by the fact that he did not take a Top n Go following his SHIFT-R.


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Fran follows PMaestro through the Esses and runs into the back of him.
Fran was aiming at a gap that was always going to close and had no overlap at turn in.


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Norbert goes to pass Norm on the inside into the scoop.
Norm loses control slightly on the brakes over the hill and moves right.
Norbert keeps tight and leaves room on the outside but Norm turns into him.
Only Norm is affected.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h02m20s

Fran makes another pass attempt at the Esses, this time on Nigel.
This one is a more legitimate attempt than his earlier one as Nigel is sliding wide and leaving a gap.
Unfortunately Fran does not keep to that gap and slides into Nigel on his half of the track.
He considers pitting to repair his helmet after driving on it for a few yards but he finds the breeze rushing through his hair quite refreshing.


Server replay time: 0h03m12s

RogUK pulls off the overtake of the race, his 3rd of 5 on that lap when he passes Blito into Big Bend.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h03m16s

Martin follows Billy through the 90 but Billy runs wide and is slow out.
Martin doesn't leave Billy any room but Billy is off the track at this point so is perhaps not entitled to it.
The two touch and Billy continues unaffected while a recovering Martin suffers a warp contact from AlBaldwin who passes him.
He then suffers a second contact as Paul passes him.
Paul tries to avoid him but Martin is still spinning.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h03m39s

Axel looks to pass Fabio on the inside going in to the scoop but loses control under braking and hits Fabio
The shunter had lost control on the approach to the braking zone.


Server replay time: 0h03m57s

Norm's pit crew release him into the path of Nigel who is also exiting the pits.
The incident could have been avoided if both had been quicker into and out of their respective pit stops.
A stop and go means simply that, you do not have to wait for a period of time.
Take two bottles into the shower? Not any more, now I just Stop and Go.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h11m25s

Nigel passes a recovering and unpredictable Martin in the Esses but loses control and the two collide.
Norm has no reaction time or anywhere to go and hits Martin.
Nigel then goes for a drive through the countryside after which he decides to rejoin the race that recently broke out.
Martin retires following the incident.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h25m10s

BadBlood tries to pass Blito at the 90 but leaves it too late and makes a late and desperate lunge for a gap that was always going to close when Blito turned in, which he had every right to do as Paul had no overlap and came from a long way back.


Server replay time: 0h31m52s

Axel runs wide through the 90 and is slow on to start-finish as Fabio gets a better exit.
Fabio tries to go to the outside to avoid Axel but doesn't give himself enough room and hits him.
Fabio sees Axel's incident developing and says he could not avoid it as he was on full throttle.
At no point did Fabio lift to avoid what was a very avoidable incident.
When recovering from this incident Fabio takes to the racing line and Karliss narrowly avoids hitting him.


Server replay time: 0h32m00s

Du Fossa goes into The Esses and is being shown waved yellows but does not reduce speed at all. He guesses that the incident will be on the outside and keeps a tight line but unfortunately for him, Paul is sat against the inside barrier and Du Fossa hits him.
He is thrown into the outside barriers but continues after a spin.


Server replay time: 0h33m20s

Axel is recovering from a spin at Big Bend, and as he takes back to the track Fran has to move to avoid him.
Fran continues unaffected but Axel suffers a warp contact and spins.


Server replay time: 0h33m45s

Axel takes a Stop n Go for his earlier reset but sits in the pits for too long.
A Stop n Go just requires you to come to a complete stop and then go straight away.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h40m20s

Fabio spins at Big Bend and drives back on to the track where the racing line is.
He can hear Paul's approaching Honda but keeps going.
Paul was not shown any yellow flags approaching the incident but tries to give Fabio enough clearance, however Fabio is now blocking the track and Paul hits him.

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« Reply #45 on: May 19, 2011, 09:18:45 AM +0100 »

my pole lap not in blue color ...


Pole laps are never shown in blue.
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« Reply #46 on: May 19, 2011, 01:09:03 PM +0100 »

I saw the result that my country is unknown. Me and Jonny are Brazilian. Please add our national flag. Tks.  Smiley
Hmm your GPL player profile shows Brazil and so does the GPLRA report so it should pick it up.
Will look into it and let you know.

OK checked with Giz. Go into your profile then 'driver details' and select your country. It should then show up correctly on future race imports.
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« Reply #47 on: May 25, 2011, 09:18:34 AM +0100 »

OMG
next track seems very very blind corner! Shocked
1turn tricky...wall comes close sooner than u think
2turn only once i did it fast on 3rd gear...
3turn blind left
4turn blind left
5turn blind right
6turn blind right (very very easy to spin)
8turn BLIND left... u can choose bush inside or outside grass
9-10 chicane with options : Wall or Shortcut penalty
11 Right... tricky to do it fast without spin

there are no bankings at all or sometimes feels them are in oposite way
also trackside objects are so flat, that instead to hit car, you can limb in object.
so frustrated after practice

lol who choose this track for novices?
its harder than monaco!
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« Reply #48 on: May 25, 2011, 11:18:19 AM +0100 »

Aintree hard? Please... you novices tend to complain a lot lately!  Roll Eyes  Grin

It's the same for everyone, so just learn the track and prepare well for the race, and it will be the same as with any other track. As for cutting, I think it should be allowed here simply because it's not always possible to go around with 2 wheels on the tarmac. Still though, I think the ideal line is by keeping half the car onto the tarmac, so whoever decides to cut is taking a bigger risk for himself and those around.

Anyway, the track is much easier in 65s than in any other mod. I'll upload some lap from our last BREASTS outing there.
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« Reply #49 on: May 25, 2011, 11:22:16 AM +0100 »

I don't consider Aintree to be hard. Mostly raced it in F2 and it was always great fun.
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« Reply #50 on: May 25, 2011, 01:31:57 PM +0100 »

Aintree is not really hard per se but it is very challenging to get a good time. Patience into some of those 90 degree turns and good traction coming out. Hard to hook it up though.

**UPDATE - Thought "If Karliss is struggling, maybe it is hard!" Went out and did five laps and got faster and faster as the confidence came in. "HA!" I thought. "Nailed it". 1:53 Big smiles. Onto GPL Rank to find I am only a second or so behind the likes of Goran, Ray etc. Not too bad... where is Karliss? 1:48. That's ruined my day... Harder than Monaco indeed. Pull the other one.
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« Reply #51 on: May 25, 2011, 06:34:51 PM +0100 »

Aintree hard? Please... you novices tend to complain a lot lately!  Roll Eyes  Grin


its hardest track i ever raced. i mean in terms of corner structure. even Nurb have some logic feeling in corners.
But its only my pov.

Hristo, maybe you can tell harder track in around 2min laptimes?
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« Reply #52 on: May 25, 2011, 06:52:28 PM +0100 »

I find Rouen harder than Aintree... it's just that most of us have 100x more experience at it.

What do you mean by corner structure anyway? It's quite simple, at least in the BT7:

T1 drop a gear and get on the power early on, full throttle.
T2 brake very late and deep, carrying a lot of speed into the corner, stepping onto the inner grass a bit and then using a bit of the outside grass on the exit.
T3 brake on time and don't run wide, then keep inside until you see the exit and floor it.
T4 brake earlier than it feels normal and turn early into the corner, patience with acceleration out of it.
T5 normal line, with middle apex, careful on exit not to run wide onto the grass; avoid stepping on the inside grass at the corner.
T6 brake and turn at the same time, not too hard on the brakes, but you have to turn early as the car drifts wide going over the crest; once you're on the outside, floor it.
T7 straightline the chicane, brake early before it, ease off the brakes when you step on the grass, then let the car drift to the left on the exit so you position yourself well for the next chicane
T8 you can lift a bit if your line is not perfect, otherwise take it flat out; careful not to lose the front end over the grass.
T9 brake early, turn early, accelerate early, drifting wide right next to the wall edge.
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« Reply #53 on: May 25, 2011, 07:38:33 PM +0100 »

i found this
seems lap around 1-49
and looks very easy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zMKobALWCQ
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« Reply #54 on: May 25, 2011, 08:39:01 PM +0100 »

i found this
seems lap around 1-49
and looks very easy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zMKobALWCQ

Well, my WR is better - 1:47.9  Grin Here's the replay:

http://racingleague.co.cc/hikiwaza/downloads/Hri_Itc_aintree_BrabhamBT7_1m%2047.904s.rpy
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« Reply #55 on: May 25, 2011, 09:52:50 PM +0100 »

I posted the Aintree thread so can we move this chat to there please?

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9415.msg170918#msg170918
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« Reply #56 on: June 03, 2011, 02:40:49 PM +0100 »

Seems to be difficult to moderate  Wink
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« Reply #57 on: June 03, 2011, 04:26:31 PM +0100 »

Seems to be difficult to moderate  Wink

Not so much the incidents themselves but their knock on effects.

Oh and I just got back from a City Break in Rome.

It will be published tonight.
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« Reply #58 on: June 04, 2011, 12:49:57 AM +0100 »

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« Reply #59 on: June 04, 2011, 02:35:09 AM +0100 »

 thumbup2 Thanks Mike for the great job you are doing for us novices! thumbup2

A good lesson for me to learn:
its not all about fast laps, but learn to respect the other drivers because they are no AIs!

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