First UKGPL Fun GT Race Silverstone

[BadBlood]

No cut off as far as I am concerned. Because the race ends on the lap that the leader takes the chequered flag you would have to complete the lap that you are on.

But 2 things to be aware of I think in the interests of fair play and fun.

1) If you are going to limp around you will have to make sure that you do not impede other cars. That is not so easy as it sounds, and if we end up with 5 crippled cars causing mayhem I may introduce something nasty like a "rule" saying that you have to be able to lap at 110% of your average laptime. Which would involve me in even more modding!! and we don't want that do we?? 

2) Sitting by the S/F line wont work, because GPL will disconnect you if your car remains stationary for about 20 secs. Something we had to deal with in the good 'ol days of Pitstops. And if we end up with a queue of cars by the S/F line that would be silly, wouldn't it??

You'd be amazed what I'd do for a point

Seriously I wondered what would happen if you were driveable but not competitive (mmm wonder how that feels?) and could get round - say lost a gear or two. I once lost a wheel two corners from the end but finished!

I wasn't serious about the S/F line btw.

Sorry about the collision - haven't reviewed it yet but I have given myself a good talking to!

[b_1_rd]

On the subject of finishing is there a cut off where you don't score - for instance, if you crash 15 laps from the end and you lose a wheel - you might limp round three laps or even wait by the S/F line - not in the spirit, I know but is there a specific exclusion point - might make it worth limping round if only three laps to go etc etc.

Hope the next Orange guest driver is rubbish and H can't make it again

You raise an interesting point I think, particularly if you are close to the finish anyway (not sure about the 15 laps from the end bit!).  I don't claim to know the rules word for word, far from it, but I am not aware of anything that stops you driving without all four wheels.  I'm sure in the real world you would soon attract a black flag under under some sort of 'dangerous driving' or 'technical' infringement.

It's not exactly covered by:

# Drivers are strongly discouraged from using traction or braking help as this severely compromises the car's performance and introduces a performance gap to unassisted cars which is both hazardous and not in keeping with UKGPL's aim of close racing.

...but it kind of covers it from a performance point of view.

Perhaps this one comes down to common sense, but certainly worth raising.

I'm sure one of our guru mods will be along shortly to clarify it all

EDIT: I see Clive got there already  ; he's even too damn fast on here, let alone on track!

[EvilClive]

lol Steve.  I am just trying to ensure that these GT's require the very MINIMUM of modding and rules.

I am keeping it simple, so that stoopid me can cope with it 

[Ronniepeterson]

lol Fulvio,   
 Despite some reservations that the Porsche would be a sitting duck around Silvy, I notice that one crept into the top few places??!!  It will be interesting to see how things work out in the rest of the races.

Providing Hristo and Pod keep away, the rest of the works drivers carve each other up, and the muscle cars are forced to fit mirrors they can see with (extra weight might slow them down a bit on the straights). Then maybe the Porsche, in capable hands, will be in with a chance of racing at the sharp end. But none of that is likely to happen and I hope and fully expect Hristo and my Captain to be back at the next race. I think this trial series is all the better for the spread of cars from Ferrari to Porsche and it will be fun seeing the results particularly at Reims and Monza.

[BadBlood]

           Race series:-


Silverstone        21st Jan............35 LAPS
Mexico             28th Jan............30 LAPS
Reims               4th Feb.............25 LAPS
Rouen              11the Feb..........25 LAPS
Monza             18th Feb............45 LAPS     ( ENDURANCE FINALERace series:-

 These races will be approx 40 minutes long with 20 mins qually to try and keep all sides happy.

After yesterdays race I'd just like to ask whose lap times you based these "40 minute" races on? ET?

30 Laps at Mexico is going to take me the thick part of an hour (hopefully). If anyone is lapping at 1:20 I want lessons from them!

[Hristo Itchov]

           Race series:-


Silverstone        21st Jan............35 LAPS
Mexico             28th Jan............30 LAPS
Reims               4th Feb.............25 LAPS
Rouen              11the Feb..........25 LAPS
Monza             18th Feb............45 LAPS     ( ENDURANCE FINALERace series:-

 These races will be approx 40 minutes long with 20 mins qually to try and keep all sides happy.

After yesterdays race I'd just like to ask whose lap times you based these "40 minute" races on? ET?

30 Laps at Mexico is going to take me the thick part of an hour (hopefully). If anyone is lapping at 1:20 I want lessons from them!

Yeah, it's going to be at least an hour.

[EvilClive]

Nobody said I was totally honest.


edit.... Actually my Maths is not so bad as the race lengths were a total guess based upon very little data regarding the laptimes of these cars. The races should start 10 mins earlier than usual ( because of 20mins qually) so will still finish at a civilised hour.  

With the race leaders likely to be lapping sub 1:50 the race should only last 55mins max. Which means that everyone's race will finish on that same lap. A very sneaky slower driver could do some clever calculations and decide that he might therefore only complete 25 laps in the same time period and opt for a lower fuel level? But then he might be quicker and not get lapped so often.....hehehehehe!  Tricky isn't it??

[EvilClive]

lol Fulvio,   
 Despite some reservations that the Porsche would be a sitting duck around Silvy, I notice that one crept into the top few places??!!  It will be interesting to see how things work out in the rest of the races.

Providing Hristo and Pod keep away, the rest of the works drivers carve each other up, and the muscle cars are forced to fit mirrors they can see with (extra weight might slow them down a bit on the straights). Then maybe the Porsche, in capable hands, will be in with a chance of racing at the sharp end. But none of that is likely to happen and I hope and fully expect Hristo and my Captain to be back at the next race. I think this trial series is all the better for the spread of cars from Ferrari to Porsche and it will be fun seeing the results particularly at Reims and Monza.

I have to confess that I rather hoped that there would be a good mix of cars for this. Unless of course your name is Nicky and you get too damned smart    lol

[b_1_rd]

Unless of course your name is Nicky and you get too damned smart    lol

 

 

Just messin, nice move 

[G Jonsson]

First, I am sorry about the delay, it was due to a mix of GT mod, server stunts and some lack of knowledge on my part. Thanks Fulvio.

As for the race, thanks Fulvio again, and when Alastair as well as my self also finished the race we in the Orange team now have a healthy lead, which by the way we will hold on to for the rest of the season. I hope you had a nice time too H and welcome you back for the Mexico race.

From a 3rd position on the grid I was in 4Th, thinking about what strategy I would use when the Lola engine on the second lap gave up. After the reset and the S&G I found myself in 13Th position. Humm, if the engine was so fragile and it was 32 laps left, well, let`s say I did not push that much, keeping one eye on the engine temp and the other on the revmeter I was more or less hoping for the rest of you to go and mess up. But most of you did really drive well and it is not that easy to pass a slower driver when you do not trust your engine. Blito comes to mind as a good example of this, I was the white Lola he was talking about.

But the race went on and the Lola kept going and slowly I managed to better my position bit by bit until at the end I was at the back of Nicky in 6Th position. So, maybe the Lola could stand a last lap attempt to get by. I am happy to say that it did. I had to use some grass but I was lucky and Nicky was aware about me too so nothing bad happend and I got my 5Th position. But I must confess that it really was quite stupid to take that big a risk for only one point and maybe loosing 16 but after all I am a racer and had been taking it slow and easy all the way so.............................

Thanks Evil for the concept and grats to the podium guys, and all finishers with a little special grats to Ray for putting the Porsche on the podium.

See you all in Mexico where the sun is shining, internet connections and servers work beautifully, and the Orange team once again will lead the way.

Göran

[Hristo Itchov]

Are we going to have the full race results posted or at least uploaded somewhere? I'd like to see the GPLRA export and make some observations of the competition. 

[EvilClive]

Track: Silver             Fri Jan 21 23:46:51 2011

PRACTICE TIMES

Pos No Driver                           Team     Nat      Time      Diff Laps
 1  20 Fulvio Policardi-GT              Chap 2F  ITA 1m31.219s              5
 2   7  EvilGT                          Ferrari  GBR 1m31.410s   00.191s    9
 3  21 Göran JonssonGT                  Lola T70 SWE 1m32.077s   00.858s    8
 4  15 Martin_GT Hunt                   Chap 2F  USA 1m32.925s   01.706s   10
 5  24 Phil ThorntonGT                  Lola T70 GBR 1m32.958s   01.739s   10
 6  16 natan vix gt                     Porsche  BEL 1m33.076s   01.857s   10
 7  18 Ronnie Peterson                  Porsche  ITA 1m33.301s   02.082s   12
 8   2 Nicky Ickx GT                    Ferrari  VEN 1m33.440s   02.221s    6
 9   1 steve birdgt                     Mirage   GBR 1m33.694s   02.475s   10
10  39 Fabio GT Locarno                 Ferrari  ITA 1m35.111s   03.892s    7
11  25 Zachariah Blito                  Lola T70 GBR 1m35.559s   04.340s    8
12  14 Alastair BaldwinGT               Mirage   GBR 1m35.734s   04.515s    8
13  37 Paul Whitfield GT                Ferrari  GBR 1m37.073s   05.854s    8
14  38 franGT Molteni                   GT40 MkI ITA 1m38.419s   07.200s    9
15  27 2 UKGPL_T7                       Chap 2F  ITA   No time   No time    0

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Track: Silver             Fri Jan 21 23:46:51 2011

RACE RESULTS (After 35 laps)

Pos No Driver                          Team     Nat Laps   Race Time       Diff    Problem
 1  20 Fulvio Policardi-GT             Chap 2F  ITA   35  54m53.277s           
 2   7  EvilGT                         Ferrari  GBR   35  55m01.441s    08.164s
 3  18 Ronnie Peterson                 Porsche  ITA   35  56m31.725s  1m38.448s
 4  24 Phil ThorntonGT                 Lola T70 GBR   34  55m06.905s   1 lap(s)
 5  21 Göran JonssonGT                 Lola T70 SWE   34  55m13.906s   1 lap(s)
 6   2 Nicky Ickx GT                   Ferrari  VEN   34  55m19.291s   1 lap(s)
 7   1 steve birdgt                    Mirage   GBR   34  55m20.666s   1 lap(s)
 8  25 Zachariah Blito                 Lola T70 GBR   34  55m33.281s   1 lap(s)
 9  16 natan vix gt                    Porsche  BEL   34  55m44.328s   1 lap(s)
10  14 Alastair BaldwinGT              Mirage   GBR   33  55m11.368s   2 lap(s)
11  37 Paul Whitfield GT               Ferrari  GBR   33  56m33.173s   2 lap(s)
12  39 Fabio GT Locarno                Ferrari  ITA   22  37m23.323s  13 lap(s)
13  38 franGT Molteni                  GT40 MkI ITA   20  33m21.975s  15 lap(s)
14  15 Martin_GT Hunt                  Chap 2F  USA   12  19m20.233s  23 lap(s)
15  27 2 UKGPL_T7                      Chap 2F  ITA    0 DidNotStart  35 lap(s)


Race results are unofficial
(Replay might have been saved before end of race)

RACE FASTEST LAPS

Pos Driver                                 Time Lap
 1   EvilGT                           1m31.298s  34
 2  Fulvio Policardi-GT               1m31.857s  33
 3  Nicky Ickx GT                     1m33.506s  32
 4  Göran JonssonGT                   1m33.735s  32
 5  Martin_GT Hunt                    1m33.824s   4
 6  Phil ThorntonGT                   1m33.917s  16
 7  natan vix gt                      1m34.388s  18
 8  steve birdgt                      1m34.410s  25
 9  Ronnie Peterson                   1m35.203s   8
10  Zachariah Blito                   1m35.317s  34
11  Fabio GT Locarno                  1m36.930s   7
12  Alastair BaldwinGT                1m36.976s  11
13  Paul Whitfield GT                 1m37.623s  29
14  franGT Molteni                    1m37.643s  17
15  2 UKGPL_T7                          No time


LEADERS

Driver                           Laps
 EvilGT                          1-21
Fulvio Policardi-GT              22-35

Number of lead changes: 1
Number of leaders: 2


LAPS LED

Driver                           Laps led
 EvilGT                          21
Fulvio Policardi-GT              14


HIGHEST CLIMBER

Driver                           Start Finish  Change
Ronnie Peterson                      7      3       4 
Zachariah Blito                     11      8       3 
Alastair BaldwinGT                  12     10       2 
Paul Whitfield GT                   13     11       2 
steve birdgt                         9      7       2 
Nicky Ickx GT                        8      6       2 
franGT Molteni                      14     13       1 
Phil ThorntonGT                      5      4       1 
2 UKGPL_T7                          15     15       0 
Fulvio Policardi-GT                  1      1       0 
 EvilGT                              2      2       0 
Fabio GT Locarno                    10     12      -2 
Göran JonssonGT                      3      5      -2 
natan vix gt                         6      9      -3 
Martin_GT Hunt                       4     14     -10 


ON TRACK LAPS

Driver                           Laps/Total    Percent
Ronnie Peterson                     (28/35)      80.00
Nicky Ickx GT                       (25/34)      73.53
natan vix gt                        (24/34)      70.59
Göran JonssonGT                     (24/34)      70.59
 EvilGT                             (22/35)      62.86
Alastair BaldwinGT                  (22/33)      66.67
Zachariah Blito                     (22/34)      64.71
steve birdgt                        (21/34)      61.76
Phil ThorntonGT                     (19/34)      55.88
franGT Molteni                      (14/20)      70.00
Fabio GT Locarno                    (13/22)      59.09
Paul Whitfield GT                   (11/33)      33.33
Fulvio Policardi-GT                 (10/35)      28.57
Martin_GT Hunt                       (2/12)      16.67


RACE LAPTIME CONSISTENCY
(first lap excluded)

Driver                    Avg Deviation  Std Deviation  Avg Laptime   Laps
Ronnie Peterson                   0.943          1.624    1m36.698s     35
Zachariah Blito                   1.058          1.569    1m37.684s     34
Fulvio Policardi-GT               1.103          1.534    1m33.981s     35
franGT Molteni                    1.674          2.499    1m39.473s     20
Martin_GT Hunt                    1.825          2.881    1m36.485s     12
 EvilGT                           1.939          3.131    1m34.271s     35
Alastair BaldwinGT                2.163          3.203    1m39.957s     33
steve birdgt                      2.665          3.793    1m37.345s     34
Phil ThorntonGT                   3.042          5.596    1m37.116s     34
Göran JonssonGT                   3.077          5.819    1m37.354s     34
Paul Whitfield GT                 3.688          4.390    1m42.092s     33
Nicky Ickx GT                     3.739          7.802    1m37.453s     34
natan vix gt                      3.946          5.387    1m38.239s     34
Fabio GT Locarno                  4.658          5.947    1m41.519s     22


All times are unofficial
(Replay might have been saved before end of race)

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Track: Silver             Fri Jan 21 23:46:51 2011


Team results for those who finished the race and scored points
I have checked my replay and did not find anyone who failed to perform a SnG except for Natan, who forgot to fuel his car for the race and made multiple resets.

Ronnie appears to have a cloaking device fitted to his Porsche, as it failed to show on radar for many laps.

Track: Silver             Fri Jan 21 23:46:51 2011

RACE RESULTS (After 35 laps)

Pos No Driver                          Team                  Points   
 1  20 Fulvio Policardi-GT              Chap 2F  ITA      24         
 2   7  EvilGT                              Ferrari  GBR        22 
 3  18 Ronnie Peterson                 Porsche  ITA       20 
 4  24 Phil ThorntonGT                 Lola T70 GBR       18   
 5  21 Göran JonssonGT               Lola T70 SWE       17         
 6   2 Nicky Ickx GT                    Ferrari  VEN          16 
 7   1 steve birdgt                      Mirage   GBR         15   
 8  25 Zachariah Blito                  Lola T70 GBR        14   
 9  14 Alastair BaldwinGT             Mirage   GBR         13   
10  37 Paul Whitfield GT              Ferrari  GBR           12 

Only 3 retirements....maybe the races should be longer??  lol

 16 natan vix gt                    Porsche  BEL   34  55m44.328s   1 lap(s)  DQ'd, because Natan unfortunately forgot to fuel car for race and performed several resets.



TEAM SCORES
WHITE       DNS

BLACK        15

BLUE          28

RED           34

GREEN        40

ORANGE      54

[Hristo Itchov]

Thanks a lot, Evil, close times it seems.

[EvilClive]

NP. 

[Phil Thornton]

Results table after Round 1