UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) - Riverside 1960 - Oct 24

[vosblod]

Please note we will now be using UKGPL_5 for the Works race (Privateers remain on T7_2);
Server = UKGPL5
IP address = ping myjamesonline.net

I will update the main race post.

[Hristo Itchov]

This might amuse you lot - Was working on my setup a short while ago and got bored a little after getting the gearing about where i needed it....

So I decided to 'weld up' my diff and do some laps on race fuel to see what happened - so a 30/30/6 setup ensued which resulted in the following

Riverside flying lap on Youtube

As you'll see in the vid I'm spending most of my time in corners fighting the car and make plenty of mistakes as a result - but the thing that suprised me was the fact my 1st flying lap with this setup resulted in a 1:51.9 despite having nearly 40laps worth of fuel on board, multiple errors, and cold tyres! 

Now I've shared that I guess I'd better go and finish the proper setup.....

Well, the BRM is not your usual chassis and it definitely works better with unconventional diffs. I have always find it to work very well with a high number of clutches and also less lock on the power side. It's something I saw Michiel Pompert use long ago and really liked it when I tried it. Give it a go if you want - 85/60/5, 85/45/5 or 85/60/6. You'll find it very controllable, in fact I suggest any BRM driver to try that.

[kinghiro]

I will not win this race but I will paricipate

[FullMetalGasket]

This might amuse you lot - Was working on my setup a short while ago and got bored a little after getting the gearing about where i needed it....

So I decided to 'weld up' my diff and do some laps on race fuel to see what happened - so a 30/30/6 setup ensued which resulted in the following

Riverside flying lap on Youtube

As you'll see in the vid I'm spending most of my time in corners fighting the car and make plenty of mistakes as a result - but the thing that suprised me was the fact my 1st flying lap with this setup resulted in a 1:51.9 despite having nearly 40laps worth of fuel on board, multiple errors, and cold tyres! 

Now I've shared that I guess I'd better go and finish the proper setup.....

Well, the BRM is not your usual chassis and it definitely works better with unconventional diffs. I have always find it to work very well with a high number of clutches and also less lock on the power side. It's something I saw Michiel Pompert use long ago and really liked it when I tried it. Give it a go if you want - 85/60/5, 85/45/5 or 85/60/6. You'll find it very controllable, in fact I suggest any BRM driver to try that.

I'm currently developing a 30/45/3 (Or is it 4?) and finding it very fast and controllable so will probably run that or something very similar 
Will have a quick spin with your suggestion though 

[Hristo Itchov]

I've tried all sorts of diffs with the BRM back when it was about the only car I was racing, both in UKGPL and BREASTS. For some tracks I liked using 60/60/3 or 60/45/3, but 85/60/5 and 85/45/5 were my most common choice. And it's not that I use such diffs for the other cars as you may think - I use 45/60/1 45/85/1 and the likes for most other cars. Sometimes 60/85/2 or 60/60/2 as well. But BRM is just different...

[Turkey Machine]

So after doing a lap worthy of 6th on the grid, and managing to take it easy at the start with everybody being supercautious, I slot in behind John Roberts on the run down to that hump-hairpin-left-b****rd. I selected neutral which I thought was first, hence me nearly stopping on the apex. Finally selected a gear and accelerated towards the next corner, where I completely forgot where the braking point was. Wheel wiped off, and I was looking forward (kinda) to this.

:/

[vosblod]

Oh dear Jethro - although that might mean I didn't finish last.
I haven't turned the wheel in a week let alone looked at this track so decided to make the best of a bad job, sit out Qually and tootle around at the back keeping out of harms way.
Well I went slightly wrong on the first lap and found myself driving on the wrong side of a very very long wall. After that a freeze put paid to my mysery.
Anyway will fiind time to do some practice for the next one.

[FullMetalGasket]

Was having a great battle with Clive (How on earth was the Waza doing the final turn so fast?! ) until a screen freeze on about lap 4 

That was shaping up to be one hell of a battle too, Clive was killing me into the final turn every lap but I was pulling back ahead an equal(ish) amount from T1 thru to the hump each lap too....
Gutted to leave in such an ignominous way and hope my car didn't hang around long enough to cause any probs 

[Al Heller]

Quallied 2nd - running 2nd & enjoying a nice tussle with john when along came the SCREEN-FREEZE. Great. Doesn't this track have a bit of a reputation for freezing? And how come whenever FMG gets screen freeze, so do I?? I know it's part of online racing & all that, but it does make the whole thing (even more of) a lottery when this happens.

[b_1_rd]

My screen stopped too.....right when I hit the barrier 

My flaming car bounced back on to track and Tom (KH) ran into it, but appeared to continue, hope there wasn't too much damage.

[Michael Turner]

A fairly miserable race on a track that I hadn't had a lot of practice on. A poor quali followed by a couple of spins on the first lap put me way behind the pack but I soldiered on until a screen freeze with about 6 laps to go put me out of my misery.  I was being lapped at the time so I hope I didn't cause anybody any grief.

[jhalli]

not CTD for me ,but it disconnected from server

[Hristo Itchov]

After a PB in qualifying, I couldn't quite make a good start and that allowed Tom to take the lead, and he proved quicker than I expected in the early laps.

Although I could close up on him in some places, he would just motor away on the straights, so I had to try and put as much pressure as possible. Just when I was able to close in a bit and possibly have a run in his slipstream on the backstraight, his engine expired and I inherited the lead.

It went very well for a while, the car working great, the tires within reasonable temperatures, but after 6 or 7 laps it started going downhill for some reason. I think I was getting a bit bored and that caused a loss of concentration, but there was also a problem with my front-end under braking and turn-in - it was a bit too responsive and unpredictable.

This led to one off just after the esses in the braking for the slow uphill right-hander. Then a few laps later I clipped the wall on the inside of T1 after the front-end just gripped more than I expected. As soon as the car washed off out of control to the right, I just waited for the impact. It was a serious head-on impact and although the suspension and tires didn't suffer much damage, the engine was seriously damaged.

I could barely accelerate and the engine was hardly managing to rev up in 4th gear even on the longest straight. This allowed Rick, then Evil, then JR to pass me within the next few laps. Just when Juha was closing up and was probably going to pass me as well before the finish, I got disconnected. There were 5 laps to go.

It turned out we all got disconnected and I suspect the server froze completely. I don't know why nobody seems to remember, but we've always had screen freeze problems in UKGPL with this track. I don't know if it's down to server settings or something else, but something needs to be done before we run this track again. Someone said in chat that it runs fine in other leagues and Privateers didn't seem to have a problem either, so I suspect it's down to server settings, but who knows.

[BadBlood]

We didn't seem to have any freezes in the Privateers but all joking aside it might have something to do with the spacing of the cars - its tight in the Works not in the Privateers so each screen has less going on. Just a thought.  Cheers to Tim for hosting us.

BTW I did a PB in Qually as well - and I wasn't last on the grid  - mind you my PB was 2:00.55  :'(

[vosblod]

We didn't seem to have any freezes in the Privateers but all joking aside it might have something to do with the spacing of the cars - its tight in the Works not in the Privateers so each screen has less going on. Just a thought.  Cheers to Tim for hosting us.
BTW I did a PB in Qually as well - and I wasn't last on the grid  - mind you my PB was 2:00.55  :'(

They both had the same grid settings Paul. Well done on the PB by the way - a PB is a PB, doesn't matter on the time.

I need to check the server replay (if there is one) but a re-run for Works is looking likely. IF this happens does anyone object to the xmas break (not actually on xmas day or anything silly)? The alternative is to tack the race on to end of season, either way it might also be subject to a change of track dependent on testing.